Official Tobias Harris watch thread (The End)

Nebula1 · Post #241 » by **Nebula1** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:52 am

Well I can't say I'm surprised. Good for him.

Hope Herb Kohl sells and this franchise can reboot.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #242 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:53 am

step3profit wrote:I took a wait and see approach; I waited, I saw, and now I'm a sad panda unless we win the finals with jj redick as MVP.

we could have redick with a 1st. we didnt have to trade harris here... i think we NEGOTIATED for him to be the piece instead of a pick instead. this deal could make the alexander pick look shrewd.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #243 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:59 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:if harris busts out im gonna be pissed. i kinda gave this trade the benefit of the doubt on the surface of it that 2 coaches didnt play him and the gm traded him..... thinking maybe there was something going on behind the scenes. but if this is just a case of poor evaluation im gonna be furious.

Yeah, we should base opinions off Scott Skiles and his clone and our idiotic GM.

they are still our decisionmakers. should we just rule them all out always opposed to summer league for comparison? and its not like i watched his practices. did you?

like i said.... if we blew this one im going to be furious. how you could watch him everyday for 2 years and then give him away for a 1st rounder and throw doron lamb in just for giggles my turn out mindblowing. im not happy about this right now. this has nothing to do with redick. he could have been had for what the magic were f'ing asking for. this is even worse then that.

whatthe_buck!? · Post #244 » by **whatthe_buck!?** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:04 am

This is all part of Hammonds plan guys. He wanted to trade Harris to another eastern conference team to help beat the other mediocre eastern conference teams competing with us for the 8th seed. Another winning trade for hambone!!!! Oh and when 24 yr old Tobes is Paul Pierce in 4 years, it's all good because we will have already drafted the next Lebron at pick 14 so there wouldn't have been any PT for him anyway. All accounted for in the master plan biatches!

FML

Baddy Chuck · Post #245 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:04 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:they are still our decisionmakers. should we just rule them all out always opposed to summer league for comparison? and its not like i watched his practices. did you?

Those same talent evaluators made him starting small forward based off "practice" and then went against their thoughts. The dudes are idiots. The sooner we stop giving them power over anything, the better. 3 more **** years.

InsideOut · Post #246 » by **InsideOut** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:07 am

Based on the number of good trades Hammond has made shouldn't we just assume this one won't work out for the Bucks? Hammond is a disaster and I have no doubt we'll look back this spring and wonder how on earth he got a 3yr extension.

ReddWing · Post #247 » by **ReddWing** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:09 am

Tobes helping the Bucks playoff push,

E-Buck · Post #248 » by **E-Buck** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:09 am

I hope Larry Sanders takes his talents elsewhere. OKC perhaps?

BUCKnation · Post #249 » by **BUCKnation** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:10 am

Well this sucks. I was considering not watching the bucks for the rest of the year and I think this is going to seal it.

Sad thing is most on this board had a good idea this was going to happen once he was "freed."

paul · Post #250 » by **paul** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:11 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:they are still our decisionmakers. should we just rule them all out always opposed to summer league for comparison? and its not like i watched his practices. did you?

Those same talent evaluators made him starting small forward based off "practice" and then went against their thoughts. The dudes are idiots. The sooner we stop giving them power over anything, the better. 3 more **** years.

Honestly, I'm lower on this franchise right now than I've ever been on any sporting franchise in my life.

OF COURSE we should disregard their opinions, two of them were playing Marquis f'ing Daniels over Tobias Harris FFS, that should have been a firing offense instantly. Unforgivable.

Both of the coaches were complicit in playing Gooden over Larry Sanders for a season and half. The GM gave Gooden $30m. The same guy traded for Monta Ellis. Seriously, Monta Ellis.

People need to remove the idea from their head's that because these guys hold high ranking positions within NBA franchises that they are instantly much better judges of talent than us, and aren't completely irrational when it comes to some personnel decisions. It's just not the case.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #251 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:12 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:they are still our decisionmakers. should we just rule them all out always opposed to summer league for comparison? and its not like i watched his practices. did you?

Those same talent evaluators made him starting small forward based off "practice" and then went against their thoughts. The dudes are idiots. The sooner we stop giving them power over anything, the better. 3 more **** years.

good grief. these are also the guys that targeted him in the draft.

you guys want to rip every move weve ever made and i still like most of them. im not going to get baited on that level. im just saying if they sht the bed on this trade as bad as it looks now.... because they were to cockstrong about a pick in next years draft im gonna be pissed.. super pissed.

Post #252 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:16 am

"You know Jon, we've seen Tobias Harris have some really nice games for the Magic since the trade. But what fans need to realize is that Orlando wasn't going to trade a proven commodity like J.J. Redick without receiving something significant in return.

Some commentators felt that Redick was worth not only a top prospect like Tobias but also a first round pick. The fact the Bucks were able to get him for only one of those assets speaks to the great job the Bucks front office did in making that deal. So when you see Tobias doing well down in Orlando, realize that in life you have to give up something to get something and the Bucks did here. To get a proven starter like Redick in midseason is a tall order and the Bucks were able to accomplish it.

blazza18 · Post #253 » by **blazza18** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:20 am

Damn you PP

Baddy Chuck · Post #254 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:21 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:good grief. these are also the guys that targeted him in the draft.

And traded down 12 spots without knowing he'd be there for Stephen **** Jackson.

We rip every move they make because the only "good" moves involves literally nothing and getting a guy like Delfino that will do absolutely nothing to further the franchise.

And Shaun Livingston.

Kerb Hohl · Post #255 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:23 am

Whatever...P-L-A-Y-O-F-F-S! Suck it, Orlando!

blazza18 · Post #256 » by **blazza18** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:25 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:And Shaun Livingston.

The key piece to the trade for Hammond btw.

Post #257 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:27 am

I'm actually hoping Tobias completely lights it up the next 45-days. Might be the only small hope we'd have that Kohl fires Hammond eventually or they both sober up and realize they suck and need to start over.

But this is why our debates over blowing it up versus win now are probably irrelevant. Kohl and Hammond would completely fail at either strategy.

This is where I'm at now......

Help me Mark Attansio. You're my only hope.

Godgers · Post #258 » by **Godgers** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:28 am

This teams such a joke. Just shows you how pathetic this franchise is all around.

This is the season where I stoped becoming a Bucks fan for life. Im a NBA orphan now.

Least the NBA gets another solid player to watch now that hes gets the PT he deserves.

Nebula1 · Post #259 » by **Nebula1** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:29 am

I think firing Hammond changes nothing. There are a couple common threads of suck that have been in management longer than Hammond and until ownership changes nothing will.

JayMKE · Post #260 » by **JayMKE** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:30 am

paulpressey25 wrote:

"You know Jon, we've seen Tobias Harris have some really nice games for the Magic since the trade. But what fans need to realize is that Orlando wasn't going to trade a proven commodity like J.J. Redick without receiving something significant in return.

Some commentators felt that Redick was worth not only a top prospect like Tobias but also a first round pick. The fact the Bucks were able to get him for only one of those assets speaks to the great job the Bucks front office did in making that deal. So when you see Tobias doing well down in Orlando, realize that in life you have to give up something to get something and the Bucks did here. To get a proven starter like Redick in midseason is a tall order and the Bucks were able to accomplish it.

are you a wizard?