Ersan Trade Ideas - Think hard guys (and Sanders)

[Baddy Chuck]

I don't see Phoenix trading for Ersan at all.

They wouldn't. Morris twins and Frye make Ersan entirely irrelevant. They should be very interested in Larry, however.

OKC is honestly the only team I can see with the assets that I'd want for Larry that would make a fair deal for both teams.

[bizarro]

I don't see Phoenix trading for Ersan at all.

They wouldn't. Morris twins and Frye make Ersan entirely irrelevant. They should be very interested in Larry, however.

OKC is honestly the only team I can see with the assets that I'd want for Larry that would make a fair deal for both teams.

I don't know. I'd be pretty intrigued by a package of Okafor's expiring, Goodwin, and two 1st round picks in this draft. That would really really get me listening. I've watched the Suns a bunch this year and I really enjoy Goodwin's game.

[cinematographer]

Hilarious, I was literally just going to post this. Get on the phone Bone! Get it done! Considering they have a viable stretch 4 in Frye (who is playing quite a bit better and healthier than Ersan), the person on our roster that would be most appealing to them would be Sanders. Regardless, an interesting scenario. I'd ask for their pick; Washington's pick; and Okafor. It would be tricky to make the salaries work but I would try like hell and maybe even attempt to sneak Goodwin out of it. #PipeDream

It'd be interesting to see if they'd bite on Sanders. Makes them better, but could stunt Len.

That Minnesota pick would be difficult to get. We'd have to hope they turn it on over the second half of the season. Moreover, Sanders to Phoenix helps keep Phoenix ahead of Minny, keeping them in the protected range of the pick.

Sanders/Zaza/Mayo for Okafor/Gerald Green/as many picks as could be coerced works. I don't like Green, at all, but if we'd Gooden him for the season, then buy him out next year... it's an option.

I'd rather try to work a Detroit/OKC threeway, and bring back Lamb/Abrines.

[Baddy Chuck]

I don't know. I'd be pretty intrigued by a package of Okafor's expiring, Goodwin, and two 1st round picks in this draft. That would really really get me listening. I've watched the Suns a bunch this year and I really enjoy Goodwin's game.

Two mid firsts is awful value IMO.

[bizarro]

I don't know. I'd be pretty intrigued by a package of Okafor's expiring, Goodwin, and two 1st round picks in this draft. That would really really get me listening. I've watched the Suns a bunch this year and I really enjoy Goodwin's game.

Two mid firsts is awful value IMO.

Two mid 1st alone, yes. BUT, paired with a large expiring and a promising young prospect and the flexibility in the upcoming draft to pair the plethora of picks we have for targeted players...I find that very appealing. (I know...I know...Hammond would probably destroy that flexibility in any number of improbable ways)

Granted, I'm not saying I prefer this trade to any combination of OKC's young talent (and, honestly, I don't think they're moving any of their young talent - why would they considering how well they're playing?) but I am saying it appeals to me.

[bizarro]

It'd be interesting to see if they'd bite on Sanders. Makes them better, but could stunt Len.

That Minnesota pick would be difficult to get. We'd have to hope they turn it on over the second half of the season. Moreover, Sanders to Phoenix helps keep Phoenix ahead of Minny, keeping them in the protected range of the pick.

Sanders/Zaza/Mayo for Okafor/Gerald Green/as many picks as could be coerced works. I don't like Green, at all, but if we'd Gooden him for the season, then buy him out next year... it's an option.

I'd rather try to work a Detroit/OKC threeway, and bring back Lamb/Abrines.

(1) What's going on with Len's ankle issues? Is this a serious chronic thing?
(2) I absolutely love Jeremy Lamb's game. What's not to love. AND, of any of the prospects OKC would be willing to give up, I would gather he's the one. Reggie Jackson is a phenomenal backup PG. An important luxury for them considering Westbrook is coming off a major knee injury. They've repeatedly claimed they see Adams as the heir apparent to Perkins. I love Adams potential but I just don't see them parting with him.
(3) Getting Abrines and Lamb would be very appealing and a great future-minded move. Getting Abrines over here could be tricky but what's not to like in another long/athletic/young SG/SF prospect?
(4) What do you want from Detroit in this proposed 3-way deal?

[Baddy Chuck]

Really no reasoning to that trade to make me think we get fair value. Free agency is **** and we'll have enough to absorb a decent sized contract as is if needed so Okafor expiring does nothing for me in terms of value. Goodwin is a meh prospect and I really see no way those two picks aren't easily over 12, likely 14+. Larry is worth more then that. To tank it makes sense if you just want to dump Sanders ASAP, but I don't think it's what he's worth.

[bizarro]

Really no reasoning to that trade to make me think we get fair value. Free agency is **** and we'll have enough to absorb a decent sized contract as is if needed so Okafor expiring does nothing for me in terms of value. Goodwin is a meh prospect and I really see no way those two picks aren't easily over 12, likely 14+. Larry is worth more then that.

Fair enough. I hear you.

All the picks Phoenix are receiving this year are, at least, protected 1-12. SO, it's not all that attractive there. I don't necessarily agree with you on Goodwin. Though, given where he's at in his development being a Buck would probably wreck him in the long run. He's in a great situation right now and getting 10-15 mpg. But, I also value roleplaying defense at a premium.

[cinematographer]

(3) Getting Abrines and Lamb would be very appealing and a great future-minded move. Getting Abrines over here could be tricky but what's not to like in another long/athletic/young SG/SF prospect?
(4) What do you want from Detroit in this proposed 3-way deal?

Abrines and Lamb... with Exum... or Wiggins... to go along with Giannis and Middleton... so much lineup flexibility. So many matchups.

And... just Charlie V.

MIL OUT: Mayo, Ilyasova
MIL IN: Jeremy Lamb, Alex Abrines, Kendrick Perkins, Charlie Villanueva, Picks

DET IN: Mayo, Ilyasova
DET OUT: Stuckey, Charlie V, Picks

OKC OUT: Lamb, Abrines, Perkins
OKC IN: Stuckey

We, of course, could route some of the picks to OKC if they're unwilling to include Abrines. Or, if Dumars is hesitant to take on more salary -- though it's not like he's some wizard in free agency -- we don't take on picks.

I'm more than fine with a return of Lamb and Abrines for Ilyasova and Mayo. Who couldn't be? I'm more than happy paying the Perkins tax, and even including 2nds, to make it happen.

Though the concern, of course, is that Detroit would probably have to move Monroe first/as a part of this. If OKC wants Monroe, even better.

But, anyways, the whole idea of this was to shed Mayo and Ilyasova for the expiring Stuckey and the expiring Charlie V and picks, in the hopes that Dumars is still in the mood to be swindled by Hammond. Adding OKC is just the pipedream on top of a pipedream.

[Baddy Chuck]

If there's one thing Detroit doesn't need its a power forward and Stuckey for Lamb/Perkins is pretty awful for OKC.

[cinematographer]

If there's one thing Detroit doesn't need its a power forward and Stuckey for Lamb/Perkins is pretty awful for OKC.

Detroit would need to move Monroe, which according to Zach Lowe, isn't a nonstarter.

And don't discount Stuckey. He's not Kevin Martin, but if he helps get Perkins away from OKC...

EDIT: But, yes, pipedream.

[raysbookclub]

How about Mayo as the centerpiece to Phoenix rather than Ersan or Sanders? They could use a backcourt scorer off the bench.

[ChuckBros4Life]

Really no reasoning to that trade to make me think we get fair value. Free agency is **** and we'll have enough to absorb a decent sized contract as is if needed so Okafor expiring does nothing for me in terms of value. Goodwin is a meh prospect and I really see no way those two picks aren't easily over 12, likely 14+. Larry is worth more then that. To tank it makes sense if you just want to dump Sanders ASAP, but I don't think it's what he's worth.

Goodwin and 2 mid 1sts for Sanders would be great value. I think you're underestimating the kind of players we could get with those picks. There's so much talent in this draft and a lot of teams are higher on different guys. I could see more than a few guys falling to a pick far below what they should really be valued at.

Sanders was the 15th overall pick and if we can turn that into 2 mid firsts and a guy who was a late first only cuz he came out a year too early (Goodwin), while at the same time getting rid of a meh contract, I'm all for it.

Henson > Sanders and we don't need both of them. I just don't see Sanders having a future here.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

I don't know. I'd be pretty intrigued by a package of Okafor's expiring, Goodwin, and two 1st round picks in this draft. That would really really get me listening. I've watched the Suns a bunch this year and I really enjoy Goodwin's game.

Two mid firsts is awful value IMO.

and finding a team willing to give it would be priceless

[gaspar]

How about Mayo as the centerpiece to Phoenix rather than Ersan or Sanders? They could use a backcourt scorer off the bench.

Nope.

[ReasonablySober]

How about Mayo as the centerpiece to Phoenix rather than Ersan or Sanders? They could use a backcourt scorer off the bench.

Nope.

The hot start stopped pretty quickly, didn't it? Last nine games: 9.2 FGA/game, 33% FG, 29% 3FG, 1.1 FTA/game.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Suns (or really anyone else) wouldn't have interest in mayo. Maybe ersan in a fry and a pick or two type deal would make some sense for them but that's questionable. Sanders does make some sense and they would be a very good defensive with him but I don't see anything that works salary wise. If it worked salary wise a sanders for Len deal kind of makes sense for both teams. Larry helps them now and is young enough to be part of their core while Len gives the bucks a solid prospect who's hurt and won't kill the tank. Problem is I don't see any deals that match up salary wise.


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[WeekapaugGroove]

I actually think the suns are going to be careful with their assets because they feel they are in the best position to get a disgruntled superstar type if someone comes available. IF mini continues to underachieve and would deal love I think Phoenix would have the best package and be the front runner to get him.


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[randy84]

Why would Phoenix want Ersan? They are trying to win this year. Ersan is injured and is sucking. Frye gives them alot more this year than Ersan does.

[drew881]

Mayo and Ersan to Charlotte for Ben Gordon and a future 1st.