Bucks talking Asik

Baddy Chuck · Post #241 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:38 am

blazza18 wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
blazza18 wrote:And if we were going to flip Asik straight away for pieces why couldn't Houston just do the same thing ?

They want Ersan?

True, They'd have to really want him though. And with the signs Jones has shown lately I doubt they do.

I don't think what they would get would be much better value wise then Ersan/Wolters/Udoh really.

SkilesTheLimit · Post #242 » by **SkilesTheLimit** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:44 am

OnWISports wrote:With the East so weak, Kohl just can't resist the temptation.

This is the one year we actually can be the 4th seed! And only have to win 39 games to get it! Do it John!

-Herb Kohl

Slap in the face to all of us who say the Bucks shoot for mediocrity with the 8th seed. Now for years they'd be able to say they got the 4th, 5th or 6th seed. FML

blazza18 · Post #243 » by **blazza18** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:51 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
blazza18 wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:They want Ersan?

True, They'd have to really want him though. And with the signs Jones has shown lately I doubt they do.

I don't think what they would get would be much better value wise then Ersan/Wolters/Udoh really.

For what Houston want, the value seems fine to me too. I just think it's wasting our assets by doing it. We add a 3rd team to it and we get back some young players then I'm all for it. But for us getting Asik in return isn't a good deal to me.

raws · Post #244 » by **raws** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:51 am

This trade makes us worse for the rest of the season and it frees up more time minutes for Henson. Why are people upset? That lane is going to be a toilet bowl though with a sanders/Henson/asik front court

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cinematographer · Post #245 » by **cinematographer** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:52 am

emunney wrote:I think they could flip anybody they got, they just wouldn't be able to combine his salary with another player's to make a trade work. The window is just the most advantageous time for them to make a deal, and since that's how they generally operate, that's when they'll likely deal him. I don't think it's imperative it happens then, though. His value isn't going up after Dec. 19th as he continues to not play and his remaining contract gets shorter and shorter.

Ah, here it is:

For two months after receiving the player in trade, if the trade aggregates the player's salary with the salaries of other players. However, the team is free to trade the player immediately, either by himself or without aggregating his salary with other salaries. This restriction applies only to teams over the salary cap. (Also see question number 86.)

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #246 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:52 am

sander to dallas for larkin/ crowder/ wright

larkin/ knight
middleton/ mayo
giannis/ crowder
randle/ wright
asik/ henson

shop asik all summer and spend one more year down.

midranger · Post #247 » by **midranger** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:54 am

"Last time I had a big, white, foreign center who played defense and rebounded, but couldn't score to save his life; I turned down Stephen Curry. Imagine who I turn down this time before I flip him for Marshon Brooks."

-John Hammond

cinematographer · Post #248 » by **cinematographer** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:03 am

raws wrote:This trade makes us worse for the rest of the season and it frees up more time minutes for Henson. Why are people upset? That lane is going to be a toilet bowl though with a sanders/Henson/asik front court

I worry about what the next move would be. And, if there isn't one, the issue is, whoever the Bucks draft, they're still stuck with two centers starting.

Plus, if this having Asik/Henson/Sanders means Embiid is off the draft board...

Baddy Chuck · Post #249 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:03 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:sander to dallas for larkin/ crowder/ wright

Talk about a dump..... Dump meaning we gave up Sanders for far less then he's worth and the meaning of what we get is poop.

raws · Post #250 » by **raws** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:05 am

cinematographer wrote:
raws wrote:This trade makes us worse for the rest of the season and it frees up more time minutes for Henson. Why are people upset? That lane is going to be a toilet bowl though with a sanders/Henson/asik front court

I worry about what the next move would be. And, if there isn't one, the issue is, whoever the Bucks draft, they're still stuck with two centers starting.

Plus, if this having Asik/Henson/Sanders means Embiid is off the draft board...

Well, people do say sanders is better off as a power forward. I don't know if I agree.

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paul · Post #251 » by **paul** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:05 am

raws wrote:
cinematographer wrote:
raws wrote:This trade makes us worse for the rest of the season and it frees up more time minutes for Henson. Why are people upset? That lane is going to be a toilet bowl though with a sanders/Henson/asik front court

I worry about what the next move would be. And, if there isn't one, the issue is, whoever the Bucks draft, they're still stuck with two centers starting.

Plus, if this having Asik/Henson/Sanders means Embiid is off the draft board...

Well, people do say sanders is better off as a power forward. I don't know if I agree.

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Don't.

Matches Malone · Post #252 » by **Matches Malone** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:07 am

I wonder what Morway has to think about all this? He did such a great job in Indiana, he couldn't possibly think going after Asik is a good idea, can he?

raws · Post #253 » by **raws** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:07 am

paul wrote:
raws wrote:
cinematographer wrote:I worry about what the next move would be. And, if there isn't one, the issue is, whoever the Bucks draft, they're still stuck with two centers starting.

Plus, if this having Asik/Henson/Sanders means Embiid is off the draft board...

Well, people do say sanders is better off as a power forward. I don't know if I agree.

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Don't.

I don't think he has the offensive prowess for it, but he also can't guard traditional centers. But perhaps the traditional center is a dying breed anyway.

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cinematographer · Post #254 » by **cinematographer** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:08 am

raws wrote:Well, people do say sanders is better off as a power forward. I don't know if I agree.

I would hope you don't. For him and Henson.

Matches Malone · Post #255 » by **Matches Malone** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:10 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:sander to dallas for larkin/ crowder/ wright

Talk about a dump..... Dump meaning we gave up Sanders for far less then he's worth and the meaning of what we get is poop.

That is a bad deal for us. I'd much rather try and see if we can move Sanders/Mayo to OKC for some kind of combination of Lamb/Jones III/Adams/Jackson/1st + Kendrick Perkins for cap reasons.

raws · Post #256 » by **raws** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:13 am

A borderline all star for three bench role players? Wow we must really devalue our own players.

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paul · Post #257 » by **paul** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:22 am

raws wrote:A borderline all star for three bench role players? Wow we must really devalue our own players.

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Who's the borderline allstar in that conversation?

step3profit · Post #258 » by **step3profit** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:24 am

When will malcontents learn to shut their stupid mouths before they end up being traded to the Bucks?

Seriously, I wonder if any GM has ever threatened an agent with "Calm your client down, and get him to play, and play hard, or I swear to God, I will trade him to the Milwaukee **** Bucks. You think I won't do it? Try me. I've got Hammond on speed dial right now."

RandyBreuer · Post #259 » by **RandyBreuer** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:26 am

Anyone think Hammond has the stones and the brains to do the Asik deal. Then flip him to OKC or Dallas since Morey won't trade him to a contender in the west?

Baddy Chuck · Post #260 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:27 am

RandyBreuer wrote:Anyone think Hammond has the stones and the brains to do the Asik deal. Then flip him to OKC or Dallas since Morey won't trade him to a contender in the west?

If those were a combined sentence, I'd say no. Since you placed that period in there, yes and no.