PG Hawks: One Good Quarter

[stillgotgame]

Wonder how stotts would’ve had us playing. We should’ve brought him back when we decided to part ways with Griff

Dame time..

Dame would have 25+ shots per game if the team actually listened to him.. doubt they would have.. we're still stubborn -- even after the recent trade

Dame Time is a losing strategy. No one wins with slow paced, pounds the dribble, defenseless basketball. The Bucks won before Dame, they win now when he's off the floor, and they'll win big when they cash in his trade value on the next sucker.

Dame Time carried a front line of Kanter, Aminu and Harkless to the conference finals.

[ShootingtheJ]

Dame time..

Dame would have 25+ shots per game if the team actually listened to him.. doubt they would have.. we're still stubborn -- even after the recent trade

Dame Time is a losing strategy. No one wins with slow paced, pounds the dribble, defenseless basketball. The Bucks won before Dame, they win now when he's off the floor, and they'll win big when they cash in his trade value on the next sucker.

Dame Time carried a front line of Kanter, Aminu and Harkless to the conference finals.

Andrew Nembhard lead the Pacers to the conference finals last year. Who cares.

Dame was 111-109 in his last 4 years and Portland, and has continued to age here. Lackadaisical. Unfocused. Doesn't make anyone else better. Zero interest in defending. The epitome of a loser.

The Bucks can be good again, once they move on from him.

[Dick Tate]

Middleton is a risk, but well worth it.

That was the hope. He certainly said the right things before the season when he talked about his expectation of being a 30 min/gm every game player.
Between then and now he played 30 minutes once. Then came the goose eggs a week before the trade deadline. At that point it was (likely) determined the risk wasn’t worth it. Maybe he confessed to Horst he didn’t have it and they discussed sending him to a team that didn’t have any aspirations, where he could chill out and exercise his option in peace.
Thus the pivot to trade him to get under the 2nd apron, get a top 7 rotation player back in return, hope for the best and then figure out what to do this summer.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

If Portis had Kuzma's numbers last night, you and all the BP haters would have torched him. As it is (26 pts, 15 rebounds, 6 assists) , he was criticizied in the posts, but nary a word about Kuzma.

It's called a self fulfilling narrative. Wanting and thus thinking Kuzma will fill KM's shoes is going to be a thing.

middleton had no value to any team in the league. any contending team laughed at the idea for trading for him. its understood league wide hes done and has no value to team success anymore. its why we suck. stop suggesting we should or shouldnt have traded him for anything whatsoever. even a junk for junk trade benefits us with such little depth

so we traded him for somebody with availability. filling shoes is ridiculous. we want a guy who can get up out of the wheelchair. maybe give us 14/6 with some decent d. priority just 35 minutes of mediocre starting game time

you didnt watch the game last night but i was very encouraged kuzma can be a contributor especially defensively

I'm glad you know every team's perception of KM. There's a lot of things that go into a trade, including the player's salary and length of contract.

But more importantly, no team that isn't on the cusp of winning a championship is going to want a player like Middleton, so that eliminates probably two thirds of the teams.

And those who have a chance would have to have a need for the skill set Middleton brings.

It's why I said repeatedly that Middleton is much more valuable to the Bucks than any other team. His numbers since he came back are excellent, including several clunkers.

Kuzma can jump higher, run faster and get rebounds at a slighly higher rate.

But in everything else, he is far inferior, including in BBIQ, which the Bucks sorely lack.

Middleton is a risk, but well worth it. Kuzma's bad efficiency, low BBIQ and bad assists numebers are not going to bring a championship.

I would like nothing better than to be proven a total idiot by my position (my wife thinks it's already proven).

It's obvious that the Wizards have no interest in Middleton, so they may just shut him down. It's a shame. The Bucks need him badly.

khris is my favorite buck of all time. i LOVED his game. but the wizards have his medicals. there isnt anything to "shut down". they already knew...what the league knew. hes done. short of a game here and there hes done man.

if we had him on a cheap deal hes fine but on that big contract **** us up into the 2nd apron when what we needed is literally just bodies who can run and play at a above replacement level with dame and giannis then the move made sense

[-Jragon-]

I'm glad you know every team's perception of KM. There's a lot of things that go into a trade, including the player's salary and length of contract.

But more importantly, no team that isn't on the cusp of winning a championship is going to want a player like Middleton, so that eliminates probably two thirds of the teams.

And those who have a chance would have to have a need for the skill set Middleton brings.

It's why I said repeatedly that Middleton is much more valuable to the Bucks than any other team. His numbers since he came back are excellent, including several clunkers.

Kuzma can jump higher, run faster and get rebounds at a slighly higher rate.

But in everything else, he is far inferior, including in BBIQ, which the Bucks sorely lack.

Middleton is a risk, but well worth it. Kuzma's bad efficiency, low BBIQ and bad assists numebers are not going to bring a championship.

I would like nothing better than to be proven a total idiot by my position (my wife thinks it's already proven).

It's obvious that the Wizards have no interest in Middleton, so they may just shut him down. It's a shame. The Bucks need him badly.

We need KM slowing us down even more than the Brook/Bobby lineup like we need a hole in our heads. Come with this same energy in a few weeks when the new guys know the plays and we are beating teams by 30 every night.

This is a weird take:

1) The playoffs are a half court game, so your fascination with running is misplaced.

2) KM, while slow, is always pushing the ball up the court or looking to see who is up ahead. It's what makes him so valuable and the smartest Buck.

Sounds like the Wizards are a lucky team.

I think that predominantly you're right about the playoffs having more halfcourt sets. But there are always (think pacers and heat series vs us) some sloppy 5 - 7 minutes each half where we go cold or have turnover streaks.. then our starters who sat while we were up 4 come back on and we're down 10 based on sprinting. By not having that slow lineup in you mitigate those stretches.

Also, being that Dame relies on momentum and getting warm to hot and staying like that, having quick footed guys even helps you set fast screen, quicker cuts (I don't only mean traditional fast breaks) get open shots earlier in the clock instead of having guys that stop the ball too long.
Like this: Dame comes off a screen hits a shot w 18 seconds on the clock still... defense gets a stop and rebound straight into another screen and hits GTJ open 3 in with 17 seconds still on the clock.. defense gets a steal layup Dame... they come down and score... we walk the ball up but then a quick pick and roll Goannis dunk and they call a timeout because we're rolling

[-Jragon-]

I also agree that Km asserted himself well with the ball in his hand, especially this year.. but that D lack of getting back on D.. not really playing or trying hard off ball...
That was a recipe for disaster.. you want your most dangerous player with the ball and that wasn't km.