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Post#2481 » by Shaffty » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:22 am

ReasonablySober wrote:Get rid of Knight and I'm going to be happy.

Add Stauskas and I'll be pleased.

Add Lawson and Afflalo at the expense of guys like Middleton, Henson and our picks and I'm going to be bummed. In terms of value it's great; Lawson is a very good player. But our two young cornerstones won't even be starting their primes by the time Lawson's contract is up and he's on the wrong side of 30. It's just a really bad fit.


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Post#2482 » by UWM_Brew_Buck » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:24 am

ReasonablySober wrote:His girlfriend, an hour ago

[tweet]https://twitter.com/tayanderson11/status/556672010676219904[/tweet]

:dontknow:

Gonna be a bummer if he's on the move and the Bucks don't land him. In a logical world we'd be his ideal spot.


I checked out her instagram, looks like a legit source :reporter:
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Post#2483 » by RRyder823 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:47 am

UWM_Brew_Buck wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:His girlfriend, an hour ago

[tweet]https://twitter.com/tayanderson11/status/556672010676219904[/tweet]

:dontknow:

Gonna be a bummer if he's on the move and the Bucks don't land him. In a logical world we'd be his ideal spot.


I checked out her instagram, looks like a legit source :reporter:


I say this not intending to sound like a jerk because I think its interesting the tweets shes sent out but seriously why follow his gf? She does look good so theres that I guess
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Post#2484 » by On_Wisconsin » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:57 am

Ersan to Sac, Stauskas and Thompson to Denver, and Aaron Afflalo to MKE.

Would love to get Lawson, but I don't see it. I remain cautiously optimistic though. Giving up Knight for Lawson is best case, but probably not happening


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Post#2485 » by Chapter29 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:12 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Who would you guys rather keep: ersan or duds? The obvious answer seems to be ersan but I may lean duds based on chemistry and contract.


Easily Dudley.

He is a really smart bb player and is a great chemistry guy. We have several of those Scott Williams chemistry guys in our veteran group and the Dudster is one of them imo.

Granted Ersan is probably a better overall bb player and is a coveted type player being a stretch 4. With that I think Ersan may have more trade Value but no future here.
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Post#2486 » by raferfenix » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:40 pm

Dumping Ersan for an expiring contract would be good in and of itself.

But if we pass on a chance to pick up a young player like Stauskas for an expiring vet in Afflalo, then I don't know what LED think they mean by #OwnTheFuture.

Lawson helps our young players develop (including Knight) and is under contract, so that'd be a different situation.
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Post#2487 » by DH34Phan » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:47 pm

My dream scenario would be if after the 2016-17, when he'll only have 1 year left on his contract, our situation could be tempting enough for DeMarcus Cousins to ask for a trade, possibly to the Bucks.

2017-18 Bucks

Tyus Jones (2015 1st Round Pick)/Kendall Marshall
Giannis
Ingles
Jabari
Cousins

6th Man: Knight.

Fill out the roster with more picks and solid vets that team could dominate. SF is kind of weak but we'll probably have another SF at Ingles' level or better.
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Post#2488 » by Bucks4Milwaukee » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:58 pm

It'd be nice to get a deal done asap! Not having Marshall on the team is going to be a big hit.
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Post#2489 » by Giannis Parker » Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:10 pm

raferfenix wrote:Dumping Ersan for an expiring contract would be good in and of itself.

But if we pass on a chance to pick up a young player like Stauskas for an expiring vet in Afflalo, then I don't know what LED think they mean by #OwnTheFuture.

Lawson helps our young players develop (including Knight) and is under contract, so that'd be a different situation.


Please do not start this "OMG we didn't get him train" especially when it is highly unlikely we have the right pieces to get him, unless of course you think Stauskas is worth our 2015 1st, Bucks do not think so.

***We never had a chance to land Bledsoe, nor did we have a chance to land Curry. Curry was a fabricated story after the deal was made for the Warriors owner to appear modest in the eyes of the public, pre Bogut-Ellis trade, he was clamoring for the team to dump Curry because he was not proven, but his own staff would not listen to him. He turned that into the Bucks having a choice, and choosing Monta.
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Post#2490 » by Giannis Parker » Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:11 pm

raferfenix wrote:Dumping Ersan for an expiring contract would be good in and of itself.

But if we pass on a chance to pick up a young player like Stauskas for an expiring vet in Afflalo, then I don't know what LED think they mean by #OwnTheFuture.

Lawson helps our young players develop (including Knight) and is under contract, so that'd be a different situation.


Also, having about 8m in cap space AFTER signing Knight would be a very big asset to carry into next year, just like our 7m is going to assist us this year in a few trades we are currently discussing.

We should also be happy that as of now we pulled Henson out of these discussions, gives us room to use him in our other deals, which are lot spicier, will share details when I can.
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Post#2491 » by jakecronus8 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:29 pm

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raferfenix wrote:Dumping Ersan for an expiring contract would be good in and of itself.

But if we pass on a chance to pick up a young player like Stauskas for an expiring vet in Afflalo, then I don't know what LED think they mean by #OwnTheFuture.

Lawson helps our young players develop (including Knight) and is under contract, so that'd be a different situation.


***We never had a chance to land Bledsoe, nor did we have a chance to land Curry. Curry was a fabricated story after the deal was made for the Warriors owner to appear modest in the eyes of the public, pre Bogut-Ellis trade, he was clamoring for the team to dump Curry because he was not proven, but his own staff would not listen to him. He turned that into the Bucks having a choice, and choosing Monta.


This is not true. It was the inclusion of Jackson that changed it from Curry to Ellis. Long story short, we were just too cheap to buy out Jackson and it cost us a superstar player.
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Post#2492 » by breakchains » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:44 pm

If we end up facilitating this thing like the Bledsoe trade I will be sick.
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Post#2493 » by breakchains » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:46 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:
raferfenix wrote:Dumping Ersan for an expiring contract would be good in and of itself.

But if we pass on a chance to pick up a young player like Stauskas for an expiring vet in Afflalo, then I don't know what LED think they mean by #OwnTheFuture.

Lawson helps our young players develop (including Knight) and is under contract, so that'd be a different situation.


Please do not start this "OMG we didn't get him train" especially when it is highly unlikely we have the right pieces to get him, unless of course you think Stauskas is worth our 2015 1st, Bucks do not think so.

***We never had a chance to land Bledsoe, nor did we have a chance to land Curry. Curry was a fabricated story after the deal was made for the Warriors owner to appear modest in the eyes of the public, pre Bogut-Ellis trade, he was clamoring for the team to dump Curry because he was not proven, but his own staff would not listen to him. He turned that into the Bucks having a choice, and choosing Monta.

The first part of not having a chance at Bledsoe flies in the face of reality, considering we were the team that traded the key piece to LAC to make it work, and the Clips gave us a 1st round pick to TAKE the less important piece less than a year later.

The second part sounds like more totally fabricated bullsh*t. What is your source?
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Post#2494 » by raferfenix » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:01 pm

I'm not jumping to any conclusions and certainly happy to hear about spicier deals with Henson.

But if we pick up Afflalo and leave Lawson on the table I'll be disappointed at the outset at least. Especially now that we've lost the only PG left on our roster who makes players around him better.

Then again getting Afflalo for only Ersan would appear to be a coup in general, so trying to keep an open mind either way.

I just hope that deal wouldn't be like the Salmons trade we did with Sacramento where instead of keeping their pick we chose to make it a three way and sent away that same longer term asset to pick up a win now veteran in Stephen Jackson.
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Post#2495 » by breakchains » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:17 pm

I have rejected the comparisons to Herb up until now, but if we give up assets for Afflalo it will really be the quintessential Kohl-era move in almost every way. The mere thought of it pisses me off.
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Post#2496 » by VooDoo7 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:20 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:***We never had a chance to land Bledsoe, nor did we have a chance to land Curry. Curry was a fabricated story after the deal was made for the Warriors owner to appear modest in the eyes of the public, pre Bogut-Ellis trade, he was clamoring for the team to dump Curry because he was not proven, but his own staff would not listen to him. He turned that into the Bucks having a choice, and choosing Monta.

Do you always make stuff up and pass it along as facts in hopes of making you look smart?

edit- breakchains and jake beat me to it. Wasn't piling on.
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Post#2497 » by worthlessBucks » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:26 pm

BP acknowledged Curry was on the table. Case closed.
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Post#2498 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:27 pm

Not to spin this into a Bledsoe tangent but I agree with GP that he was never coming back in that Reddick deal. Clips didn't want anything else in the bucks roster (ersan was too expensive and coming off an up and down yr) and at the time viewed dudley as a key piece of that trade. Phoenix targeted Bledsoe and I think he would have ended up there regardless but would have ended up costing them more if the bucks weren't involved.

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Post#2499 » by JayMKE » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:29 pm

we wanted Monta because Curry was hurt at the time and we wanted to compete for the playoffs that year
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Post#2500 » by JayMKE » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:30 pm

Afflalo is textbook Hammond
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