Ford: Jennings #2 most likely to be moved

whatthe_buck!? · Post #261 » by **whatthe_buck!?** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:49 pm

emunney wrote:
DocHoliday wrote:
emunney wrote:Somebody with a JSonline account should tell Gardner that's not possible.

worse, somebody from the Bucks FO may have fed him that

I had the same thought.

Lets let them think that. Adds urgency to trading Jennings. Better trade him before its too late and we get a poison pill offer for him in the offseason!! Lol

ajb905 · Post #262 » by **ajb905** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:55 pm

LUKE23 wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Don't understand why people would want Gordon. Bum knee, not happy about playing in New Orleans, and isn't that good in the first place.

24 years old, 20 ppg efficient scorer when he's right. He has been injured, but it's not like he has a chronic problem that will never go away. We're going to have to take a risk on a young player at some point.

Disagree he's "not that good" though. If you want to say he's been injured, fine.

I don't get it either, while yes the Bucks need efficient scoring, I really don't like the idea of taking a chance on Gordon. One he's making $15 million a year at arguably the least important position on the court. Unless you have a Wade, Ginobili, Harden who can score efficiently and create for others/do other positive things on the court (Gordon hasn't shown that in college or NBA) should you be spending a ton on a SG. Then you add the injuries on top of it...ugh pass.

Sherman Douglas · Post #263 » by **Sherman Douglas** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:58 pm

JayMKE wrote:
htr wrote:Jennings for Austin Rivers?

gross

Dude, honestly, like I said, who cares if we only get table scraps for Jennings? I will just be thrilled to avert the disaster of signing him long term for top dollar.

In fact, I would PREFER that we got next to nothing for Jennings than we do what Hammond is likely to do and add another Ellis, Jefferson, SJax type vet.

LUKE23 · Post #264 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:59 pm

ajb905 wrote:
I don't get it either, while yes the Bucks need efficient scoring, I really don't like the idea of taking a chance on Gordon. One he's making $15 million a year at arguably the least important position on the court. Unless you have a Wade, Ginobili, Harden who can score efficiently and create for others/do other positive things on the court (Gordon hasn't shown that in college or NBA) should you be spending a ton on a SG. Then you add the injuries on top of it...ugh pass.

You do realize SG is arguably the weakest position in the NBA right now, right?

Here's my thing: what do you guys want to spend money on? A very good 24 year old prospect that has had past injury issues, or the leftovers in this years FA crop? Because we're going to have to add a big piece to even get to the league minimum salary.

We'd all love it if Harden was all of a sudden available, but that isn't happening.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #265 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:03 pm

I haven't seen anyone mention it.....but what would be wrong with keeping Beno around as a stop gap PG provided we can't bring one back via trade?

Isn't he closer to the efficient better shooting PG that we are looking for?

Post #266 » by **humanrefutation** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:03 pm

I doubt Demps would part with Gordon for 4 months of Jennings when they aren't in a a playoff run, but that would certainly be interesting. The biggest issue is that Jennings could still try to secure a poison pill contract from a big market, but maybe he'd like NO more than Milwaukee.

sneakerdust · Post #267 » by **sneakerdust** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:05 pm

LUKE23 wrote:
ajb905 wrote:
I don't get it either, while yes the Bucks need efficient scoring, I really don't like the idea of taking a chance on Gordon. One he's making $15 million a year at arguably the least important position on the court. Unless you have a Wade, Ginobili, Harden who can score efficiently and create for others/do other positive things on the court (Gordon hasn't shown that in college or NBA) should you be spending a ton on a SG. Then you add the injuries on top of it...ugh pass.

You do realize SG is arguably the weakest position in the NBA right now, right?

Here's my thing: what do you guys want to spend money on? .

Strippers? Match Baddy.

Baddy Chuck · Post #268 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:06 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:I haven't seen anyone mention it.....but what would be wrong with keeping Beno around as a stop gap PG provided we can't bring one back via trade?

I would want to lose as much as possible.

Post #269 » by **humanrefutation** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:06 pm

But seriously, if we trade Jennings, we better be trying to trade every veteran asset we have on the roster. Guys like Dunleavy, Dalembert, and Beno could definitely have suitors out there. Obviously, I'd like them to sell Ellis and Gooden as well.

jtrinaldi · Post #270 » by **jtrinaldi** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:06 pm

The only place Jennings could be a star is in Miami, and that would be because of the talent around him.

LUKE23 · Post #271 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:07 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:I haven't seen anyone mention it.....but what would be wrong with keeping Beno around as a stop gap PG provided we can't bring one back via trade?

Isn't he closer to the efficient better shooting PG that we are looking for?

If you're referring to signing Udrih long-term, hell no. As for the rest of this season, does it matter anymore? I would like to focus on a long-term answer like Teague.

sneakerdust · Post #272 » by **sneakerdust** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:09 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:I haven't seen anyone mention it.....but what would be wrong with keeping Beno around as a stop gap PG provided we can't bring one back via trade?

Isn't he closer to the efficient better shooting PG that we are looking for?

Yeah I mentioned that a while back vs. picking up a "solid" pg for no reason. Just the flood of pgs and the fact beno was a throw in shows these guys are a dime a dozen. Look at a Jarret Jack etc. we need a flat out scorer with a flaw or two we can cover so hes actually available to get.

tranjSAIC · Post #273 » by **tranjSAIC** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:09 pm

N8Frog wrote:What is Harkless destined position? Small Forward?

Doesn't matter, we aren't trading him and definitely not in a package for Jennings.

Not sure if this had been mentioned yet, but in an Orlando thread someone said the Bucks offered Jennings for JJ straight up and our GM turned that down.

sneakerdust · Post #274 » by **sneakerdust** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:11 pm

LUKE23 wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:I haven't seen anyone mention it.....but what would be wrong with keeping Beno around as a stop gap PG provided we can't bring one back via trade?

Isn't he closer to the efficient better shooting PG that we are looking for?

If you're referring to signing Udrih long-term, hell no. As for the rest of this season, does it matter anymore? I would like to focus on a long-term answer like Teague.

I dont get the Teague like love but i do agree that even if the PG is not a stud if he's a LEADER it would be nice to have a younger vet to roll with for continuity to develop a team.

sneakerdust · Post #275 » by **sneakerdust** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:12 pm

tranjSAIC wrote:
N8Frog wrote:What is Harkless destined position? Small Forward?
Doesn't matter, we aren't trading him and definitely not in a package for Jennings.

Not sure if this had been mentioned yet, but in an Orlando thread someone said the Bucks offered Jennings for JJ straight up and our GM turned that down.

The poster got a source/link on that? I'd be interested, thanks.

DickCunningham · Post #276 » by **DickCunningham** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:14 pm

tranjSAIC wrote:
N8Frog wrote:What is Harkless destined position? Small Forward?
Doesn't matter, we aren't trading him and definitely not in a package for Jennings.

Not sure if this had been mentioned yet, but in an Orlando thread someone said the Bucks offered Jennings for JJ straight up and our GM turned that down.

An insider "someone"? Hammond may be dumb, but he's not that dumb (I hope).

KeyRabbit · Post #277 » by **KeyRabbit** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:15 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Here's my thing: what do you guys want to spend money on? A very good 24 year old prospect that has had past injury issues, or the leftovers in this years FA crop? Because we're going to have to add a big piece to even get to the league minimum salary.

Things they might do:
Re-sign MDJr to a reasonable multi-year deal
Extend Ellis
Extend Jennings
Use the salary space to facilitate trades/get a guy like Gordon
Fill in role players until following season when they need to extend Sanders/Udoh

They've actually got a beautiful foundation for tanking and re-signing core pieces like Sanders over the next couple of seasons, but I see them wasting it with half-measures.

FrieAaron · Post #278 » by **FrieAaron** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:16 pm

DickCunningham wrote:
tranjSAIC wrote:
N8Frog wrote:What is Harkless destined position? Small Forward?
Doesn't matter, we aren't trading him and definitely not in a package for Jennings.

Not sure if this had been mentioned yet, but in an Orlando thread someone said the Bucks offered Jennings for JJ straight up and our GM turned that down.

If that's true and I were Hammond I would tell Jennings that straight up to let him know how he's valued around the league. This is assuming, of course, that Brandon really is demanding out.

ekpecNurollduh · Post #279 » by **ekpecNurollduh** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:17 pm

sneakerdust wrote:
tranjSAIC wrote:
N8Frog wrote:What is Harkless destined position? Small Forward?
Doesn't matter, we aren't trading him and definitely not in a package for Jennings.

Not sure if this had been mentioned yet, but in an Orlando thread someone said the Bucks offered Jennings for JJ straight up and our GM turned that down.

The poster got a source/link on that? I'd be interested, thanks.

That trade does not work salary-wise "straight up" without other pieces involved.

whatthe_buck!? · Post #280 » by **whatthe_buck!?** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:17 pm

DickCunningham wrote:
tranjSAIC wrote:
N8Frog wrote:What is Harkless destined position? Small Forward?
Doesn't matter, we aren't trading him and definitely not in a package for Jennings.

Not sure if this had been mentioned yet, but in an Orlando thread someone said the Bucks offered Jennings for JJ straight up and our GM turned that down.

An insider "someone"? Hammond may be dumb, but he's not that dumb (I hope).

Yeah no, he's definitely assuming that it was JJ for BJ strait up that got rejected. I have my doubts Orlando would turn that down but if they did thank god...