CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick.

[BobbyLight]

I think Hammond is an idiot as much as anyone, but if we can get Redick for Udoh/1st, you won't see me complaining. Even if he doesn't resign chances are we only lose scrub/scrub for it. If this trade goes down and there turns out to be a player better then Redick in our range, I'll eat crow.

That's why I would rather not do this. To at least have the chance to get a piece that is interesting is better than JJ Redick, to me.

[Baddy Chuck]

What if there was a good chance it would lead to the Bucks tanking next year as they couldn't resign Redick or Smith?

I think this is ridiculous. If we taste moderate success throughout the rest of this season I'd say the odds are extremely slim that we rebuild. I always see it as a reason to do a deal, "well maybe those guys walk and we rebuild", we'll just throw the house at Paul Millsap and Kevin Martin instead. You aren't going to see a deal by Hammond and co. and think you are tricking them into rebuilding.

[bucksbrewers3]

Bucks logic. Trade best defensive player and draft pick for a....6th man

Now i read that Orlando came with the idea. Hope Hambone said a big NO

Hate to break it to ya, but Mbah a moute isn't that good of a defender. Besides let's just say he's as good as you think he is, what difference does it make when the guy he's covering still out scores him by a wide margin? His offensive game is so pathetic it over weighs his defense

[sneakerdust]

Bucks logic. Trade best defensive player and draft pick for a....6th man

Now i read that Orlando came with the idea. Hope Hambone said a big NO

Hate to break it to ya, but Mbah a moute isn't that good of a defender. Besides let's just say he's as good as you think he is, what difference does it make when the guy he's covering still out scores him by a wide margin? His offensive game is so pathetic it over weighs his defense

Everyone has one.

[DanoMac]

Redick was a lottery pick and is living up to his potential. He gives you 15ppg and 5 assists. I don't care if you want him or not but ur disrespecting the hard work he has put in over the years to get where he is at

Didn't know JJ Redicks mom had an account on this forum.

Nope but I bet she's sexy AF

I love milfs that talk in 3rd person

[Baddy Chuck]

Hate to break it to ya, but Mbah a moute isn't that good of a defender. Besides let's just say he's as good as you think he is, what difference does it make when the guy he's covering still out scores him by a wide margin? His offensive game is so pathetic it over weighs his defense

That is only illuminated because we have 3-4 other offensive liabilities on the court at any time. But yes, Luc really is expendable, and if Redick had 2-3 years left on his deal I wouldn't even mind giving up a first, but with unrestricted free agency looming, there is no reason to give up a first.

[DanoMac]

Bucks logic. Trade best defensive player and draft pick for a....6th man

Now i read that Orlando came with the idea. Hope Hambone said a big NO

Hate to break it to ya, but Mbah a moute isn't that good of a defender.

Stopped reading after that. C'mon dude. I've read a lot of **** lately that people seem to just throw around, but this takes the cake.

[H2tObes]

I think Hammond is an idiot as much as anyone, but if we can get Redick for Udoh/1st, you won't see me complaining. Even if he doesn't resign chances are we only lose scrub/scrub for it. If this trade goes down and there turns out to be a player better then Redick in our range, I'll eat crow.

That's why I would rather not do this. To at least have the chance to get a piece that is interesting is better than JJ Redick, to me.

Yeah I get what youre saying.

[H2tObes]

Bucks logic. Trade best defensive player and draft pick for a....6th man

Now i read that Orlando came with the idea. Hope Hambone said a big NO

Hate to break it to ya, but Mbah a moute isn't that good of a defender.

Stopped reading after that. C'mon dude. I've read a lot of **** lately that people seem to just throw around, but this takes the cake.

Probably only guy in the league who can somewhat contain Lebron on a consistent basis, isn't that good of a defender

[Wooderson]

I'd rather have a shot at hitting on a mid-1st draft pick than JJ Redick and it's not even close.

I'd rather have the pick, only because Redick is an unrestricted free agent. But what the hell do you consider "hitting" on a mid-1st round pick? Kevin Durant? Lebron James?

Redick is the type of player you hope a 15-20 pick will be. 15/5 on good efficiency. I don't even like Redick, but I don't understand statements like this.

The last few drafts have been loaded with talent in that range. The first round of the draft is loaded with talent and great players constantly fall to that range. Hammond's best attribute has actually been finding talent in the middle of the draft. Considering he's terrible at pretty much everything else, I'd much rather keep the pick.


2008:
17: Roy Hibbert
21: Ryan Anderson
(Ibaka/Nic Batum in the early 20's)

2009:
17- Jrue Holiday
18- Ty Lawson
19- Jeff Teague

2010:
15- Larry Sanders
18- Eric Beldsoe
19- Avery Bradley

2011:
15: Kawhi Leonard
16: Vučević
17: Shumpert
19: Tobes
22: Faried

[yuedar]

I am still trying to understand why are the bucks trying to make win now moves when they have an interim head coach. I don't know of any team in the history of the league doing that...

[Run-MKE 311]

I hope this is a joke, a very bad one at that. What the hell has Redick done to deserve a 1st round pick?!?!

[ampd]

What if there was a good chance it would lead to the Bucks tanking next year as they couldn't resign Redick or Smith?

Overpaying for Redick in the hopes that it cripples your franchise and forces you to tank is pretty pointless. You can always make tank trades. As sad as this sounds, I don't think that deal makes us any more likely to tank next season anyway. We'd just overpay some middling guys in FA (think Nick Young, Mayo, Milsap, whoever), trade back in the draft for another Jax, and go for the 8th seed again.

[DanoMac]

I am still trying to understand why are the bucks trying to make win now moves when they have an interim head coach. I don't know of any team in the history of the league doing that...

This needs to be emphasized more than anything. We have an interim **** coach. Great point.

[humanrefutation]

That would be a pretty terrible trade, even if Redick re-signs.

[ampd]

That would be a pretty terrible trade, even if Redick re-signs.

It would be a terrible trade regardless of whether he re signs, since we can offer him the same contract even if we don't trade for him.

[sneakerdust]

Hate to break it to ya, but Mbah a moute isn't that good of a defender.

Stopped reading after that. C'mon dude. I've read a lot of **** lately that people seem to just throw around, but this takes the cake.

Probably only guy in the league who can somewhat contain Lebron on a consistent basis, isn't that good of a defender

http://www.brewhoop.com/2012/9/26/34110 ... ah-a-moute

Couldn't find the analysis where JJ redick out guns Lebron but I probably didnt look hard enough.

[bucksbrewers3]

Bucks logic. Trade best defensive player and draft pick for a....6th man

Now i read that Orlando came with the idea. Hope Hambone said a big NO

Hate to break it to ya, but Mbah a moute isn't that good of a defender.

Stopped reading after that. C'mon dude. I've read a lot of **** lately that people seem to just throw around, but this takes the cake.

Never said he was bad but you guys seem to think he's an all NBA defensive player. He's not. He's a good defender with zero offense. So like I said if he's still giving up way more points than he's scoring why is he so valuable to you?

[El Duderino]

You're assuming a team out there would be willing to trade a decent young player or a 1st for Monta Ellis and his atrocious shooting, along with with below average defense at SG. I by no means would assume that.

I'd take a second or Marshon Brooks over 30 games of Smith and the looming fear that we give him the money he wants.

That's separate from thinking Ellis can likely be traded for a young asset or say a 1st round pick. I have real doubts about that given his ugly ugly shooting.

What i don't get is why Atlanta would want to trade Smith for Ellis? If i' running the Hawks, i'd much rather just play out the season and then let Smith walk than trade him for Monta.

[bucksbrewers3]

At least bowen could hit a corner three