Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION

[LuessiT]

Also you figure out the rest of the roster after you settled the major question marks. Makes no sense to define roster spots 7 through 10 before you know what kind of defense you're playing.

[DrWood]

Do you guys enjoy treadmills? If so, how about:

PG, Zubac and Lou for Khris Middleton and Eric Bledsoe.

With the way PG played, and the rumblings of the friction with Harrell in game 2. It actually wouldn't surprise me if we weren't able to squeeze Shamet out of this as well. Either way, I wouldn't be made at a deal like this.

Aw hell, let's just go crazy: https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7319901
Khris, Bled, and Brook for PG, Zubac, Lou, Beverly, and Shamet.

[DrWood]

Where are the Heat going to play when Miami's gone?

Are you talking about rising oceans?

[DrWood]

I say we bring back the gang. Delly, Henson, Wood, Knight, Thon (RFA), Dudley, and MCW will all be available. Run it back.

I wouldn't be averse to Dudley's corpse being the 14th guy who plays 20 games a season.

[coolhandluke121]

I'm starting to think they just sign Jordan Clarkson with the MLE and run it back.

It actually might not be that terrible. Last year's struggles in the ECF were real and are still unaddressed, but this year's struggles seemed excessively flukey. If they'd start Hill, it could work?

[WeekapaugGroove]

My general rule is if you have a realistic chance of winning a championship I never trade the star player even if he flat out told me he was leaving. It's just too damn hard to get to that level in the NBA. Id rather have a shot at 1 championship than take the pieces and hope to rebuild.

Even with this year's flame out I still think the Bucks are at that level so the only way I'd even consider moving Giannis is if early next season injuries destroy the team and Giannis tells them he's gone. Then you look at deals at the deadline.

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If you could get the equivalent of what OKC got for PG then I think I'd probably help Giannis pack.

It was a hell of a package for PG but I don't know if I would do it.

And when you really break down that deal they got a year of Galo who probably walks this fall. SGA is a guy I really liked coming out and is a nice young player but I honestly think he's been a little overhyped currently. Like he's probably a solid starter going forward but I don't really see an all nba type player.

Then you got a bunch of picks. One was that Miami unprotected 21 pick that's been traded a couple times and was hyped as a great trade chip but now probably falls in the 20s. The clips pick next year is probably in the 20s. After that some of the picks could be good if things go south for the clips but maybe not. I think the disaster that happened to the Nets skewed our view of how these deals end up but I think that's more the exception than the rule. Most of the time when a team knows it doesn't have a pick and doesn't have any motivation to be terrible they can at least be mediocre and the picks at best end up in the teens.

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[StickeeFingaz]

I'm starting to think they just sign Jordan Clarkson with the MLE and run it back.

It actually might not be that terrible. Last year's struggles in the ECF were real and are still unaddressed, but this year's struggles seemed excessively flukey. If they'd start Hill, it could work?

No way in hell.

[Daver]

I'm starting to think they just sign Jordan Clarkson with the MLE and run it back.

It actually might not be that terrible. Last year's struggles in the ECF were real and are still unaddressed, but this year's struggles seemed excessively flukey. If they'd start Hill, it could work?

No way in hell.

I do like the O clarkson brings can hit a 3 and had some great games with utah could use a shooter like that off the bench

[RRyder823]

In case Giannis doesn't sign extension. Would Bucks keep him for the year anyway to take a stab at the championship? Or would they trade him?

What would it take for you to accept a trade for Giannis in this situation?

No trade and its for two simple reasons.

1: You make the championship run no matter what

2: If they trade him I could care less what the return actually would end up being cause I'm probably stepping away from watching the NBA for a while cause there's no hope for this team ever winning a championship in my lifetime again and they wouldve just traded the best chance at any of that hope

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[mediocrityrules]

I'm starting to think they just sign Jordan Clarkson with the MLE and run it back.

It actually might not be that terrible. Last year's struggles in the ECF were real and are still unaddressed, but this year's struggles seemed excessively flukey. If they'd start Hill, it could work?

No way in hell.

Isn't one of our objectives here to remove Bledsoe from the equation? I'm not going to just run it back with Bledsoe as part of the team still.

[giannis and 1]

In case Giannis doesn't sign extension. Would Bucks keep him for the year anyway to take a stab at the championship? Or would they trade him?

What would it take for you to accept a trade for Giannis in this situation?

Just take a stab. It will be too painful if he leaves anyway for me to care about bucks ball for a couple years anyway.

Trading him for asset management doesn't make sense anyways. If he leaves, we will tank and get high picks anyways (assuming we are able to get rid of Middleton, Bledsoe, Brook, Hill, others). Might as well try your hardest to sign him unless he explicitly states he is going to leave well in advance.

[zimpy27]

In case Giannis doesn't sign extension. Would Bucks keep him for the year anyway to take a stab at the championship? Or would they trade him?

What would it take for you to accept a trade for Giannis in this situation?

Just take a stab. It will be too painful if he leaves anyway for me to care about bucks ball for a couple years anyway.

Trading him for asset management doesn't make sense anyways. If he leaves, we will tank and get high picks anyways (assuming we are able to get rid of Middleton, Bledsoe, Brook, Hill, others). Might as well try your hardest to sign him unless he explicitly states he is going to leave well in advance.

What if 76ers offer Simmons for him? There are some young players it might be worth trading Giannis for mid-season.

[giannis and 1]

Just take a stab. It will be too painful if he leaves anyway for me to care about bucks ball for a couple years anyway.

Trading him for asset management doesn't make sense anyways. If he leaves, we will tank and get high picks anyways (assuming we are able to get rid of Middleton, Bledsoe, Brook, Hill, others). Might as well try your hardest to sign him unless he explicitly states he is going to leave well in advance.

What if 76ers offer Simmons for him? There are some young players it might be worth trading Giannis for mid-season.

If management and ownership want to continue to be a playoff team that might makes sense depending on what Philly adds (at least a 1st or 2), but do you really see a team built around Simmonds, Middleton, etc. winning a championship. As a fan, I don't like the thought of just aiming to be a perenial playoff team that doesn't have much of a chance to win the whole thing. So I wouldn't like it, but the Bucks organization might favour that.

[zimpy27]

Trading him for asset management doesn't make sense anyways. If he leaves, we will tank and get high picks anyways (assuming we are able to get rid of Middleton, Bledsoe, Brook, Hill, others). Might as well try your hardest to sign him unless he explicitly states he is going to leave well in advance.

What if 76ers offer Simmons for him? There are some young players it might be worth trading Giannis for mid-season.

If management and ownership want to continue to be a playoff team that might makes sense depending on what Philly adds (at least a 1st or 2), but do you really see a team built around Simmonds, Middleton, etc. winning a championship. As a fan, I don't like the thought of just aiming to be a perenial playoff team that doesn't have much of a chance to win the whole thing. So I wouldn't like it, but the Bucks organization might favour that.

You wouldn't be that far off with Simmons and would have time to improve the roster.

I don't know how long you've been a fan of the Bucks but teams can wait decades before having a team as good as the Bucks team with Simmons.

[trwi7]

You wouldn't be that far off with Simmons

lol

[ShootingtheJ]

I'm starting to think they just sign Jordan Clarkson with the MLE and run it back.

It actually might not be that terrible. Last year's struggles in the ECF were real and are still unaddressed, but this year's struggles seemed excessively flukey. If they'd start Hill, it could work?

We desperately need a combo forward too. Right no we have no front court depth, and that's assuming you use Giannis as the back up center.

I'm not against your idea of avoiding major wholesale change, but there's also no way you bring Bledsoe back. In cool with returning 4 starters plus Donte and Hill, but we need to add 2 quality players.

[WRau1]

So we're going to have to turn Bledsoe, Ersan and a pick(s) into 1 player better than Middleton or two high quality players. Unless Giannis goes to C full-time and then we can add the Lopez brothers to our tradeable "assets" but then we have to add more front court depth. Seems like an extremely tall order. Looks far more likely we run it back, add a ring chaser with the MLE and try to add some shooting with our pick. Maybe trade back to get a few 2nd rd picks to go after high potential guys. Try to look at the overseas pool for shooting. Wonder what guys like Griffin, Love, Wiggins, DeRozen, Barnes are valued at.

[LuessiT]

I'm starting to think they just sign Jordan Clarkson with the MLE and run it back.

It actually might not be that terrible. Last year's struggles in the ECF were real and are still unaddressed, but this year's struggles seemed excessively flukey. If they'd start Hill, it could work?

No way in hell.

Isn't one of our objectives here to remove Bledsoe from the equation? I'm not going to just run it back with Bledsoe as part of the team still.

People are way too obsessed with trading Bledsoe. Yes he's not been good offensively versus Miami. Defensively he was an absolute menace. He also shot way under his % from outside.
If we were forced to run it back, Bledsoe would still be a positive contributer. Probably a different role and certainly not worth his contract, but he'd still be plenty useful.

[Baddy Chuck]

People are way too obsessed with trading Bledsoe. Yes he's not been good offensively versus Miami. Defensively he was an absolute menace. He also shot way under his % from outside.
If we were forced to run it back, Bledsoe would still be a positive contributer. Probably a different role and certainly not worth his contract, but he'd still be plenty useful.

Yeah if he accepted that role and was fine straight up not playing crunch time minutes if it came down to it he'd be an insane role player. I guess the thing is though if we're trying to find the guy to replace him in his current role, we kinda gotta use his salary in that deal.

[RiotPunch]

No one is downplaying Bledsoe's value as a defender.

But the ill-advised jumpers, the boneheaded turnovers, the absolute cowering before the pressure of the moment... He painted a very clear picture that we need to move on.

He's a strong perimeter defender on a decent deal, he's just the most logical piece in a large(ish) trade.