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Post#261 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:36 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:FFS I don't want to deal with the Jimmy clown show. Please let him be someone else's headache


FWIW ... Butler scares the fans, front office and also the other playoff teams. Bobby and KM scare noone ... It's not a 10 year commitment.. doesn't work and you're out quickly.. it's also a fence swing that can work FAST


Intimidation doesn't win championships, skill and production does. Middleton is a champ. Jimmy is not. Dame isn't yet either. Don't care who you're scared of. We need players who are focused on winning, not looking for pay checks and highlights.

Jimmy didn't scare anyone sitting on the bench in last years playoffs.
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Post#262 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:39 am

jakecronus8 wrote:Any way we could steal Ware in a Jimmy deal? I’m including Johnson and that ‘31 First if we can snag him. Not sure how Miami values him.


I totally agree about Ware. He'd fit perfect here. Miami has no negotiating power. They want to make the playoffs this year, or they give up an unprotected pick next year. They need any help they can get, and now.
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Post#263 » by Frank Nova » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:48 am

raferfenix wrote:Surprised how many on the Trade Board think the same kind of Jimmy scenario we've been discussing could go down:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2431843


Bucks are in a terrible position to get bent over if any of those posters are accurate. The cost to dump Connaughton is Aj Johnson and the 2031 2nd and that’s just how you’re able to get to Butler who then costs the 2031 1st as the sweetener to get Miami to bite on Khris and Bobby? That’s an awful lot to part with.

Idk…. I like the overall idea that Jimmy could get us over the top but if it doesn’t ultimately work out, it’s a catastrophe of epic proportions in the making. 2yrs from now when it’ll be time to move on from Dame and Jimmy, you’re not recouping any type of real assets for either and you basically have Giannis in the late Kobe Bryant role where he’s old and regressing but still making 75m a season, you can’t afford to put any real talent around him and you watch the franchise sink like the titanic…. I don’t envy Horst in this situation at all. Pulling the trigger could cost his job and not pulling the trigger could cost his job.
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Post#264 » by M-C-G » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:53 am

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M-C-G wrote:Jimmy going on a rental(where there is strong risk he walks) would reduce his trade value further. Might be entering the value where it won’t take Middleton and/or the 1st.




Has to include midds otherwise its dame


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Post#265 » by -Jragon- » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:08 am

Just imagining Buckets as our THIRD option... that's wouldn't be the best 3rd option in the league?

This is PJ but like a very suped up Version with a lot of accessories... none more important than drawing fouls and making the 2 shots.

** scenario playoffs... we're up 10 with 3 min but they keep hacking GA and he's missing the fts... they trap the ball out of Dame and now we are watching Brook shoot yolo 3s OR Buckets comes inside and starts drawing fouls and stabilizes us for the W
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Post#266 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:59 am

-Jragon- wrote:Just imagining Buckets as our THIRD option... that's wouldn't be the best 3rd option in the league?

This is PJ but like a very suped up Version with a lot of accessories... none more important than drawing fouls and making the 2 shots.

** scenario playoffs... we're up 10 with 3 min but they keep hacking GA and he's missing the fts... they trap the ball out of Dame and now we are watching Brook shoot yolo 3s OR Buckets comes inside and starts drawing fouls and stabilizes us for the W


Good luck getting up 10 with Prince and Robbins combining for 50 minutes a game.
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Post#267 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:30 pm

The amazingly intimidating Playoff Jimmy has shot 42% from the floor in his last 3 playoff series.
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Post#268 » by slos » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:35 pm

Looking at the 9 man rotation with Jimmy it looks like this..

Lillard (36)/Rollins (12)
Green (20)/Trent (20)/Rollins (8)
Butler (36)/Jackson (12)
Giannis (20)/Prince (20)/Jackson (8)
Lopez (32)/Giannis (16)

What’s not to like? You have your Big 3 that makes sense, Brook is still a reliable C and I have all Green, Trent, Rollins, AJJ, Prince battling for minutes.
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Post#269 » by -Jragon- » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:50 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:The amazingly intimidating Playoff Jimmy has shot 42% from the floor in his last 3 playoff series.


Play tough D, facilitate and get to the line... life isn't all about jumpers
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Post#270 » by Daver » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:55 pm

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ShootingtheJ wrote:The amazingly intimidating Playoff Jimmy has shot 42% from the floor in his last 3 playoff series.


Play tough D, facilitate and get to the line... life isn't all about jumpers





Or %.Give me a guy who plays good D can hit 90% of his fts and can go off n make huge baskets any day over the likes of prince fu... ajax n rollins
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Post#271 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:55 pm

slos wrote:Looking at the 9 man rotation with Jimmy it looks like this..

Lillard (36)/Rollins (12)
Green (20)/Trent (20)/Rollins (8)
Butler (36)/Jackson (12)
Giannis (20)/Prince (20)/Jackson (8)
Lopez (32)/Giannis (16)

What’s not to like? You have your Big 3 that makes sense, Brook is still a reliable C and I have all Green, Trent, Rollins, AJJ, Prince battling for minutes.


Brook is unplayable against a number of the top teams. No other bigs. Prince playing 20 mpg. That team is significantly worse than the one we play now, and we possibly gave up a future 1st for this mess.
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Post#272 » by Daver » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:00 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
slos wrote:Looking at the 9 man rotation with Jimmy it looks like this..

Lillard (36)/Rollins (12)
Green (20)/Trent (20)/Rollins (8)
Butler (36)/Jackson (12)
Giannis (20)/Prince (20)/Jackson (8)
Lopez (32)/Giannis (16)

What’s not to like? You have your Big 3 that makes sense, Brook is still a reliable C and I have all Green, Trent, Rollins, AJJ, Prince battling for minutes.


Brook is unplayable against a number of the top teams. No other bigs. Prince playing 20 mpg. That team is significantly worse than the one we play now, and we possibly gave up a future 1st for this mess.




Besides boston cause of zinger cleveland has allen he doesnt shoot outside i mean the knicks might be 1 team he doesnt match up well with but other than that he has held his own vs krispas n who else......is he unplayable against
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Post#273 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:00 pm

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ShootingtheJ wrote:The amazingly intimidating Playoff Jimmy has shot 42% from the floor in his last 3 playoff series.


Play tough D, facilitate and get to the line... life isn't all about jumpers


You're right, defense is important. I agree with you that we should dump Dame.
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Post#274 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:02 pm

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ShootingtheJ wrote:
slos wrote:Looking at the 9 man rotation with Jimmy it looks like this..

Lillard (36)/Rollins (12)
Green (20)/Trent (20)/Rollins (8)
Butler (36)/Jackson (12)
Giannis (20)/Prince (20)/Jackson (8)
Lopez (32)/Giannis (16)

What’s not to like? You have your Big 3 that makes sense, Brook is still a reliable C and I have all Green, Trent, Rollins, AJJ, Prince battling for minutes.


Brook is unplayable against a number of the top teams. No other bigs. Prince playing 20 mpg. That team is significantly worse than the one we play now, and we possibly gave up a future 1st for this mess.




Besides boston cause of zinger cleveland has allen he doesnt shoot outside i mean the knicks might be 1 team he doesnt match up well with but other than that he has held his own vs krispas n who else......is he unplayable against



Allen has cooked Brook. Celtics have cooked Brook.
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Post#275 » by Daver » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:05 pm

Allen has cooked most teams this year so who would you suggest the bucks use to play against allen.
Bucks could very well be 2-1 against the cavs i dont think allen cooked brook as much as you said he did.
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Post#276 » by tydett » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:14 pm

We've seen it with Dame already to an extent, but the refs and the NBA have already determined teams are only going to be called for a certain number of fouls. Add Jimmy to this team and you are way over the critical mass for fouls that will be called on him, Giannis and Dame. Without the ability to grift for 10 FTs in games, how much does Jimmy really add considering the opportunity cost? Or does Jimmy now get some of those calls, leaving teams more open to pummel Giannis and Dame?
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Post#277 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:17 pm

Daver wrote:Allen has cooked most teams this year so who would you suggest the bucks use to play against allen.
Bucks could very well be 2-1 against the cavs i dont think allen cooked brook as much as you said he did.


That's why we need more options, not less.
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Post#278 » by jakecronus8 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:40 pm

Bart Winkler talked about it on his podcast how on the surface he doesn’t like a Butler deal but deep down he hopes it happens just to **** on Heat Culture because we would accomplish the wet dream they’ve been having for the last 5 years or so of Giannis/Dame/Jimmy.

That’s the kind of spite I can get behind.
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Post#279 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:40 pm

Dalano Banton is healthy again after a hip injury, 23 points in 25 minutes last night. Multi dimensional quick combo forward. Go get him
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Post#280 » by pifhluk23 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:49 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
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MickeyDavis wrote:FFS I don't want to deal with the Jimmy clown show. Please let him be someone else's headache


FWIW ... Butler scares the fans, front office and also the other playoff teams. Bobby and KM scare noone ... It's not a 10 year commitment.. doesn't work and you're out quickly.. it's also a fence swing that can work FAST


Intimidation doesn't win championships, skill and production does. Middleton is a champ. Jimmy is not. Dame isn't yet either. Don't care who you're scared of. We need players who are focused on winning, not looking for pay checks and highlights.

Jimmy didn't scare anyone sitting on the bench in last years playoffs.


LMAO. Swap Middleton for Butler and you think the Heat go as deep in 22 and 23? What a terrible take, Butler is by far and away the better player and arguably healthier despite the age difference.

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