The Official Playoffs Thread

[jerrod]

haha. I'm just enjoying the King having to give back the crown he tried to steal.

Exactly. It is one thing that refs wants to help him. They have to because they have that order from their boss. But I am more suprised with LeBron and his desire to steal and win with their help. He acts like criminal out there. He USE refs intentionaly. He WANTS to win that way. Honestly, I loved LeBron. I had big respect for his game because I thought he is unselfish superstar. But from now on I will hate him for the rest of my life. The guy is disgusting criminal and I don't respect him anymore.

pre wedding mood swings?

[midranger]

And Kobe doesn't win them without Rick Fox.

Rick Fox = GOAT.

[El Duderino]

LeBron stopped passing in half court sets and it hurt the Cavs. To many times trying to go attack the rim into a swarm of defenders, he has the pass the ball out to open shooters in some of those cases.

after he threw 3 passes to the magic, i think everyone was hoping he'd stop passing

Two were on fast breaks, not in the half court. He also turned it over a few times charging into the lane with a swarm of defenders around him by dribbling it off his feet.

If he's triple teamed over and over, he has to pass out sometimes or the Magic had no reason to stop the triple teams.

[Wise1]

7 turnovers in the 4th quarter and overtime by LePrince. Not very Kobe-esque. 1-3 now in the conference finals in a conference that the Cavs dominated during the regular season. Lebron certainly can't take Kobe's title if he doesn't make it to the show. If both don't make it, the mythical champ still retains the title. Champions priveledge.

[lawrybeard]

Another poor post-season performance from the NBA. Their attempts to get the Cavs over the line is nothing short of embarrassing. At least the better team won.

[Ayt]

Shaq needed one practice season to show he didn't need Kobe to win a ring. In fact, Wade>Kobe since they both won with Shaq, but Wade was the Finals MVP and Kobe was generally horrific in the Finals.

[REDDzone]

LeBron stopped passing in half court sets and it hurt the Cavs. To many times trying to go attack the rim into a swarm of defenders, he has the pass the ball out to open shooters in some of those cases.

after he threw 3 passes to the magic, i think everyone was hoping he'd stop passing

To be fair, he passed two (?) into the stands to some Magic fans as well. So they weren't ALL to the Magic players.

[midranger]

So Paul Pierce?

[Nebula1]

Hey Nebula, did you take note of LePrince's defense on Rafer Alston tonight? He was already hiding, but Rafer chased him away. By the end of the night, Lehype didn't know who to guard. lol.

But who is gonna throw up powder in the Finals??? Oh no... Maybe he should give that back to Garnett. Maybe he should give his number back to MJ.

Mostly I'm happy for Dwight. Best big in the world and he's getting it done despite the League trying to push Lebron through. That goes for Skip, Rashard and Van Gundy as well.

Hopefully Kobe can get it done tomorrow night. Lebron can go back to making commercials. Don't be surprised if he does a "knocked down 7 times, get up 8" thing since he's got nothing original.

[Wise1]

And Kobe doesn't win them without Rick Fox.

Rick Fox = GOAT.

No one player wins the championship. Not Shaq, not Kobe, not Jordan...no one. This is why you can't take Kobe's or no one elses rings away from them. You can't argue against history midranger. Whether you like it or not, greatness is defined by winning at the highest levels. Winning championships is how legacies are carved. Lebron can't cheat history. He has to win. Kobe has already.

[Nebula1]

Shaq needed one practice season to show he didn't need Kobe to win a ring. In fact, Wade>Kobe since they both won with Shaq, but Wade was the Finals MVP and Kobe was generally horrific in the Finals.

Name one guy who demands the League to bring their A game more than Kobe... He challenges the entire League. He makes everybody better. I don't see anybody replacing that responsibility anytime soon.

[paulpressey25]

Mostly I'm happy for Dwight. Best big in the world and he's getting it done despite the League trying to push Lebron through.

+1

Although I'd like to see both LeBron and Dwight submit to a juice test after this series.

[Newz]

Shaq needed one practice season to show he didn't need Kobe to win a ring. In fact, Wade>Kobe since they both won with Shaq, but Wade was the Finals MVP and Kobe was generally horrific in the Finals.

Name one guy who demands the League to bring their A game more than Kobe... He challenges the entire League. He makes everybody better. I don't see anybody replacing that responsibility anytime soon.

He made all of his finals opponents bring their A games, that's for sure.

That is why they shut him down and he needed Shaq to carry his ass.

[Ayt]

Shaq needed one practice season to show he didn't need Kobe to win a ring. In fact, Wade>Kobe since they both won with Shaq, but Wade was the Finals MVP and Kobe was generally horrific in the Finals.

Name one guy who demands the League to bring their A game more than Kobe... He challenges the entire League. He makes everybody better. I don't see anybody replacing that responsibility anytime soon.

Derrick Fisher. Why do you think PJ still plays him so much?

[Ayt]

Shaq needed one practice season to show he didn't need Kobe to win a ring. In fact, Wade>Kobe since they both won with Shaq, but Wade was the Finals MVP and Kobe was generally horrific in the Finals.

Name one guy who demands the League to bring their A game more than Kobe... He challenges the entire League. He makes everybody better. I don't see anybody replacing that responsibility anytime soon.

He made all of his finals opponents bring their A games, that's for sure.

That is why they shut him down and he needed Shaq to carry his ass.

LMAO

Pierce and Allen definitely brought it last year.

[Nebula1]

And Kobe doesn't win them without Rick Fox.

Rick Fox = GOAT.

No one player wins the championship. Not Shaq, not Kobe, not Jordan...no one. This is why you can't take Kobe's or no one elses rings away from them. You can't argue against history midranger. Whether you like it or not, greatness is defined by winning at the highest levels. Winning championships is how legacies are carved. Lebron can't cheat history. He has to win. Kobe has already.

Not counting great ABA players. Otherwise I agree in principle.

I just can't believe that the biggest argument against Kobe is Shaq. Shaq got a title with Wade shooting 25 free throws a game. Not an excuse, but definitely something to note.

[Wise1]

Kobe v Lebron is not even a discussion. Kobe's resume past and present kills that debate.

I can make an argument that Wade is a better player than Lebron using the same excuses that the Lehype machine here is using.

What if Wade had as much help as Lebron does? Hasn't Wade won a championship with a diminished Shaq?

Pecking order:

1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. Lebron

Until you win LePrince. You have to sit at the kids table.

[Newz]

And Kobe doesn't win them without Rick Fox.

Rick Fox = GOAT.

No one player wins the championship. Not Shaq, not Kobe, not Jordan...no one. This is why you can't take Kobe's or no one elses rings away from them. You can't argue against history midranger. Whether you like it or not, greatness is defined by winning at the highest levels. Winning championships is how legacies are carved. Lebron can't cheat history. He has to win. Kobe has already.

Not counting great ABA players. Otherwise I agree in principle.

I just can't believe that the biggest argument against Kobe is Shaq. Shaq got a title with Wade shooting 25 free throws a game. Not an excuse, but definitely something to note.

No one is saying Shaq just won the championships on his own. He needed a great perimeter player with him when he won his four rings.

The difference was that when the Lakers won their titles, Shaq was clearly their best player, he was the reason that they were there and Kobe was just his side kick.

If Kobe wants to prove he is as great as you guys say he is, at least let him make the finals one time as the best player on his team, let alone win them.

LeBron made the finals when he was twenty-two years old and his team was filled with garbage. Yeah, then he got swept by a team with a superior player at the time (Duncan) and two other amazing players in Parker and Ginobili.

[bigpopadoc]

Im sorry but the Refs in this Orlando and Cleveland series realy suck for the game. The NBA need to stop letting Refs dictate who goes and who don't. Good game for the Magic.

[Nebula1]

Nobody makes players better than Kobe. In the Olympic run, Kobe made Wade, Lebron, Melo better players. Even Bill Simmons has acknowledged this and he hates Kobe. Kobe brings that tension.