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2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL

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Who Do You Want at #17 - Pick 3

Troy Brown Jr
11
3%
Zhaire Smith
79
24%
Kevin Huerter
46
14%
Donte DivVincenzo
43
13%
Elie Okobo
43
13%
Chandler Hutchinson
10
3%
De'Anthony Melton
22
7%
Jarred Vanderbilt
11
3%
Khyri Thomas
49
15%
Josh Okogie
15
5%
 
Total votes: 329

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#281 » by LuessiT » Wed Jun 6, 2018 8:05 pm

emunney wrote:Interesting, I can't see him being anything else.


I think he's fine as a combo guard of the bench that can occupy the 1 and 2 spot. As a starter, his best bet is to improve his ball skills and become a PG. But I don't think it's feasible to believe he gets there. It's not impossible, but he's most likely just a bench calibre player.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#282 » by Badgerlander » Wed Jun 6, 2018 8:07 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:Okobo is now the 3rd most popular option here, behind a couple 3-D guys I don't really think bring what the Bucks need, at all.

The closer we get to the draft the more I feel Okobo is the one the Bucks absolutely need to land. He can spend a year coming off the bench, then take over when the Bucks let Bledsoe walk.


Exactly, look what Bud (and the "Hawks U") did with Schroder, they turned him into a starting quality NBA PG one very quickly, despite (reported) attitude issues.

And IMO, going back and comparing their tape Okobo looks like 5x the player Schroeder did before he came over (tbf Schroder was a bit younger).


Schroder is struggling, not sure it’s much of a compliment
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#283 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Wed Jun 6, 2018 8:10 pm

weezybaby856 wrote:I still like Gary Trent Jr a lot. Not sure why he gets no love around here but I'm pretty confident he will be a huge boost to our guard rotation. He kinda reminds me of Devin Booker and I really like that.

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#284 » by emunney » Wed Jun 6, 2018 8:11 pm

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emunney wrote:Interesting, I can't see him being anything else.


I think he's fine as a combo guard of the bench that can occupy the 1 and 2 spot. As a starter, his best bet is to improve his ball skills and become a PG. But I don't think it's feasible to believe he gets there. It's not impossible, but he's most likely just a bench calibre player.


Think he's most likely a bench guy too, but there's some upside (and downside).
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#285 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Wed Jun 6, 2018 8:13 pm

Still cannot believe that this franchise drafted DJ Freaking Wilson

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Post#286 » by M-C-G » Wed Jun 6, 2018 9:01 pm

Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:Still cannot believe that this franchise drafted DJ Freaking Wilson

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This is DJs year! Some, um, really useful advice for him in the comments

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#287 » by mke_design » Wed Jun 6, 2018 9:19 pm

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Gam wrote:What do you like about Brown other than being young and having a nice frame? He reminds me of a less athletic Evan Turner, and what I've heard from Oregon fans is that he's nothing special. He's one of the last wings I'd want that is projected around our range.


Bernman wrote:Don't see a lot of chatter about Troy Brown Jr. I think there may be an outstanding NBA player there in the end.

It comes down a lot to the jumper. But his form is pretty strong. And he's real young. Not even 19 by draft time.

Appears to have excellent court vision/bball i.q. That's important to me. As is being able to slither through cracks. Not fast, but fluid athlete, can elevate. He's ambidextrous. Alert off ball defender. Reads the ball off the glass and can bang a bit in the post.

Good frame and measurements already. 8'9 standing reach, 6'10+ wingspan, 6'7 height, and solid. Given his age, could potentially still grow a little. Fits positionless basketball mold rather well.

One whose future I could get excited about if the Bucks selected him.


I'd add that he appears capable of playing on and off the ball. So he provides flexibility on offense.

I hadn't read what Ducks' fans have said about him. Seems like a combo of thinking he has talent but wasn't ready and annoyance they didn't get more years out of him.

I have him 4th behind Spellman, Okobo, and Okogie. Could lean Hutchison over him in the end out of conservatism.


He looks slow and a B or C athlete to me. Don’t think he’s an NBA player but that’s just my take.


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Post#288 » by worthlessBucks » Thu Jun 7, 2018 1:33 am

That McCoy kid from UNLV would be someone I would roll the dice with at some later pick. Trade down from 17 and use some scratch off tickets on some bigs.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#289 » by Badgerlander » Thu Jun 7, 2018 2:47 am

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This is DJs year!


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Post#290 » by Gam » Thu Jun 7, 2018 3:44 am

worthlessBucks wrote:That McCoy kid from UNLV would be someone I would roll the dice with at some later pick. Trade down from 17 and use some scratch off tickets on some bigs.


IMO he doesn't have the lateral agility to guard any guards if he's forced into a switch, he'll end up unplayable in the POs.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#291 » by BucksFanSD » Thu Jun 7, 2018 4:42 am

worthlessBucks wrote:That McCoy kid from UNLV would be someone I would roll the dice with at some later pick. Trade down from 17 and use some scratch off tickets on some bigs.


I really like McCoy based on where's he is being projected. If we trade down I would be all for McCoy and one of the many shooters available. At the very least, McCoy can contain Deandre Ayton the nights we play the Suns.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#292 » by Badgerlander » Thu Jun 7, 2018 4:47 am

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worthlessBucks wrote:That McCoy kid from UNLV would be someone I would roll the dice with at some later pick. Trade down from 17 and use some scratch off tickets on some bigs.


I really like McCoy based on where's he is being projected. If we trade down I would be all for McCoy and one of the many shooters available. At the very least, McCoy can contain Deandre Ayton the nights we play the Suns.


But Ayton will be on the bench by the time McCoy would get on the floor for mop up
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#293 » by Pachinko_ » Thu Jun 7, 2018 6:04 am

I think this best available player thing is a little too much here

You're obviously not gonna pass on Shaquille O Neal because you need a point guard, but when you're picking between the Huerters and Divicenzos of this world it's much of a muchness really

Also no player is ever gonna be good if he doesn't play at all because he happens to play the exact same position in exactly the same way as your best player.
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Post#294 » by bizarro » Thu Jun 7, 2018 6:13 am

How in the hyellll is Jacob Evans not on this list. I take him over half these guys. Don't blink twice.
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Post#295 » by mke_design » Thu Jun 7, 2018 6:16 am

worthlessBucks wrote:That McCoy kid from UNLV would be someone I would roll the dice with at some later pick. Trade down from 17 and use some scratch off tickets on some bigs.


Trading down in the NBA is basically taking your pick in 2018 and lighting in on fire. This isn't the NFL.
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Post#296 » by Badgerlander » Thu Jun 7, 2018 10:35 am

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Doncic OBPM +4.42 / DBPM +4.36 / BPM +8.78 / VORP 2.55

Okobo OBPM +3.46 / DBPM -1.29 / BPM +2.17 / VORP 1.23

Musa OBPM +2.44 / DBPM +0.61 / BPM +3.04 / VORP 0.90

Kurucs OBPM +0.68 / DBPM +1.76 / BPM +2.44 / VORP 0.45

not the same but for reference-
JJackson OBPM +5.1 / DBPM +10.3 / BPM +15.4
WCarter OBPM +6.0 / DBPM +7.5 / BPM +13.5
Mikal Bridges OBPM +8.7 / DBPM +4.4 / BPM +13.1
ZSmith OBPM +5.7 / DBPM +6.4 / BPM +12.0
Robert Williams OBPM +2.5 / DBPM +9.4 / BPM +11.9
Trae Young OBPM +11.2 / DBPM +0.5 / BPM +11.7
Bamba OBPM +2.4 / DBPM +8.9 / BPM +11.2
Ayton OBPM +6.8 / DBPM +4.0 / BPM +10.9
Bagley OBPM +7.7 / DBPM +3.0 / BPM +10.7
Evans OBPM +4.5 / DBPM +6.1 / BPM +10.6
Kenrich Williams OBPM +5.9 / DBPM +4.6 / BPM +10.5
DiVincenzo OBPM +6.7 / DBPM +2.9 / BPM +9.6
Khyri Thomas OBPM +6.5 / DBPM +3.1 / BPM +9.6
Grayson Allen OBPM +7.1 / DBPM +2.3 / BPM +9.4
Bates-Diop OBPM +5.1 / DBPM +4.3 / BPM +9.4
Miles Bridges OBPM +5.7 / DBPM +3.5 / BPM +9.2
Shai G-A OBPM +5.6 / DBPM +3.6 / BPM +9.2
Huerter OBPM +6.4 / DBPM +2.3 / BPM +8.7
Melton OBPM +3.0 / DBPM +5.3 / BPM +8.3
Shamet OBPM +8.3 / DBPM -0.1 / BPM +8.2
Hutchinson OBPM +3.6 / DBPM +4.3 / BPM +7.9
Vanderbilt OBPM +2.6 / DBPM +5.2 / BPM +7.8
Okogie OBPM +4.8 / DBPM +2.0 / BPM +6.8
Sexton OBPM +6.5 / DBPM 0.0 / BPM +6.5
Holiday OBPM +6.4 / DBPM -0.1 / BPM +6.2
Knox OBPM +3.4 / DBPM +1.4 / BPM +4.8
Brown OBPM +1.3 / DBPM +2.9 / BPM +4.3
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#297 » by SupremeHustle » Thu Jun 7, 2018 1:36 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
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Badger, what does your short list look like of guys that should be available around our pick?


It hasn’t changed much. I still LOVE Melton’s defense, best PG defender in the draft since CP3. Efficient and makes the smart/simple play on offense. Paired with Brogdon at SG our D would be amazing.
I like ZSmith, good D and smart O, does the little things and works hard at improving his game.
Vanderbilt is intriguing. Pretty raw having missed a lot of last year and his senior season but his energy and quickness to the ball is astounding. We need a SF/PF defender to offset Mids/Jabari, and his offensive rebounding.
I could be sold on Okobo, he has gotten quicker with the ball at the end of his season. I think he could be a Schroder level player just more shooter than driver but similar impact. Worse defensively though.
I think Huerter will be ok but we don’t have a PG that can set him up for success.
Freaks like Mitchell Robinson and Simmons are intriguing but no idea where their heads are at.
Evans is a solid player, good enough at everything. Like him.


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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#298 » by SupremeHustle » Thu Jun 7, 2018 1:39 pm

bizarro wrote:How in the hyellll is Jacob Evans not on this list. I take him over half these guys. Don't blink twice.


Yeah, I like what I've seen of him.
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Post#299 » by Baddy Chuck » Thu Jun 7, 2018 1:43 pm

I think I'm ready to go all in on Khyri Thomas.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#300 » by M-C-G » Thu Jun 7, 2018 2:56 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:I think I'm ready to go all in on Khyri Thomas.


I may have missed it, but what do you think his most probable outcome is?

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