Stotts Steps Down

ABucksFan · Post #281 » by **ABucksFan** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:50 pm

Nash. They played together.

StickeeFingaz · Post #282 » by **StickeeFingaz** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:50 pm

I’m assuming our coaching staff has a fewest years of head coaching experience in the league, as it currently stands.

Daver · Post #283 » by **Daver** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:52 pm

Wish our HC MLF would take a page out of AGs HCing manual 101 called know when to fold them.Maybe thrn joe barry would be gone already.Wanna see what kindof O AG has in mind.I know hes a 1st timer but i csnt believe hes going to be budesque and not build a O around dame n let G again do the same sh.. he did last year.1st off i can tell you horst will not let that happen

Ron Swanson · Post #284 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:52 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Is it weird if I'd actually feel better about this if it turns out it was a Giannis power-move to elevate Prunty?

Because it takes away the biggest potential fallout here (that Griff's an authoritarian coach who rubs even his own staff the wrong way), and places the narrative more towards Giannis just wanting his guy who he feels more comfortable with. I liked the hire but I think people were and especially now are going a bit overboard with treating Stotts like he was some savior for the offense. You've got Damian Lillard and Giannis. Not to mention Khris, Brook, and a host of other shooters and playoff tested veterans. This shouldn't be complicated.

MVP2110 · Post #285 » by **MVP2110** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:52 pm

StickeeFingaz wrote:I’m assuming our coaching staff has a fewest years of head coaching experience in the league, as it currently stands.

2nd fewest. Raptors have no former head coaches on their staff. We have a few months of Prunty

H2tObes · Post #286 » by **H2tObes** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:53 pm

Could it have been an organizational decision? AG and Stotts were not working together and it was obvious, so they decided to cut bait before the season starts? But frame it as Stotts stepping down so he can easily find another job.

Idk just really weird for Stotts to not want this job even if he sees some struggle in the future

Daver · Post #287 » by **Daver** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:53 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
El Pooch Grande wrote:This has really taken the luster off of the opener next week in my opinion. Bucks need to have an answer for this.

I'd rather have Stotts here but i'm sorry, an assistant coach stepping away does not take away the luster of watching Dame and Giannis play a real game for me.

The answer will be winning games. Win games and nobody will care about this at all. If we struggle then Griffin was going to be the first one under siege from this board anyway.

No beas 1st AG second

rilamann · Post #288 » by **rilamann** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:54 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:
jschligs wrote:Even though it sucks losing the guy running our offense. Whatever offense AG + other assistants put together can't be worse than Bud's "play random".

We were the #1 scoring offense in the league 3 years in a row under Bud. Even last season with all of our injuries we finished top 10 (and we were #1 in the postseason, our scoring defense was last).

If our offense could be top #10 under Bud's play random philosophy, imagine how good our offense could be with even just a decent offensive minded coach who brings some structure and doesn't allow Giannis to have 1-9 nights from 3.

That's why I was excited about Stotts, and then we got Dame. So much for that now.

Matches Malone · Post #289 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:55 pm

MoreTrife wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:I'm scrubbing through the replay of the OKC game and there were a few instances where there was some weird communication between the two, but I don't know if that's just me assuming something between them now... I'm just gonna wait to hear more lol.

If you're combing, see if you find the just before commercial break grab of Giannis by Stotts.

Couldn't find it, but on the Bally app, if you go to the 1:28:03 mark, there's one interaction where it looks like all the assistants are watching a classmate get scolded and Stotts just sits there and smirks.

-Jragon- · Post #290 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:55 pm

packer396 wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:This is a dream job for someone
.. who is that really good former coach that never got a ring but wants one bad... or the next guru genius type that wants exposure in a highly publicized playoff run where he gets the reigns. We have more leverage to get someone even better than Stotts now that Dame is here.

That assumes AG wants another voice in the room, and wants to share "the reigns" with another coach. We have not idea if that is/is not the case at this point

True.. unless it's a former player, maybe this team and AG just won't listen. Who though

Daver · Post #291 » by **Daver** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:56 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:
jschligs wrote:Even though it sucks losing the guy running our offense. Whatever offense AG + other assistants put together can't be worse than Bud's "play random".

We were the #1 scoring offense in the league 3 years in a row under Bud. Even last season with all of our injuries we finished top 10 (and we were #1 in the postseason, our scoring defense was last).

I read last year we were 15 n near dead last in half court O

MVP2110 · Post #292 » by **MVP2110** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:56 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Is it weird if I'd actually feel better about this if it turns out it was a Giannis power-move to elevate Prunty?

Because it takes away the biggest potential fallout here (that Griff's an authoritarian coach who rubs even his own staff the wrong way), and places the narrative more towards Giannis just wanting his guy who he feels more comfortable with. I liked the hire but I think people were and especially now are going a bit overboard with treating Stotts like he was some savior for the offense. You've got Damian Lillard and Giannis. Not to mention Khris, Brook, and a host of other shooters and playoff tested veterans. This shouldn't be complicated.

I don't think anyone thinks our offense will be bad. But will we be able to maximize it? We're counting on our offense carrying us to a title and the margins could matter here. There's a difference between us having the best offense in the NBA and something like 4th or 5th

jschligs · Post #293 » by **jschligs** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:57 pm

Daver wrote:
BroncoBuck wrote:
jschligs wrote:Even though it sucks losing the guy running our offense. Whatever offense AG + other assistants put together can't be worse than Bud's "play random".

We were the #1 scoring offense in the league 3 years in a row under Bud. Even last season with all of our injuries we finished top 10 (and we were #1 in the postseason, our scoring defense was last).

I read last year we were 15 n near dead last in half court O

Yea my comment was more tongue-in-cheek. Our offense was great in spite of Bud if I'm being honest, our half court was BRUTAL and I felt we barely ran any sets ever.

BroncoBuck · Post #294 » by **BroncoBuck** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:58 pm

My theory is that once Dame arrived AG was worried Stotts would take over the team by the end of the season and he’d be kicked aside. AG made a preemptive power move and took away Stotts power.

[Insert Succession theme]

jakecronus8 · Post #295 » by **jakecronus8** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:58 pm

Fun thing about feelings is that you can't control them.

The difference between how I felt when the Dame news broke vs today is staggering.

If people want to brush this aside, I have a bridge to sell you.

slos · Post #296 » by **slos** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:58 pm

Steve Nash seems like a good idea at this point. Maybe he can bring in the table what Stotts did without the ego and more hunger to prove himself.

kanyon · Post #297 » by **kanyon** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:59 pm

Didn't AG (with Horst) hire Stotts?

Karsenmitsche · Post #298 » by **Karsenmitsche** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:01 pm

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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
MARK_POPE wrote:Someone's ego couldn't handle Stotts either way it was enough for him to leave which isn't a good look.

id suggest its the first time in the history of the league that a lead assistant with a decade of head coaching and playoff experience has ever bailed on a rookie head coach before a season has even started.....and lets not kid ourselves here.... for not wanting to be a part of what he perceives is an oncoming trainwreck

the fact he would rather, and intends to.... coach somewhere else and leave this roster without even making an attempt....is a massive indictment against AD. its literally a statement.... stotts sent a missile and clearly hopes to not harm his career. the timing makes that obvious.

Yup

rilamann · Post #299 » by **rilamann** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:03 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:My theory is that once Dame arrived AG was worried Stotts would take over the team by the end of the season and he’d be kicked aside. AG made a preemptive power move and took away Stotts power.

[Insert Succession theme]

That's possible. I would assume that the Bucks acquiring Dame might have possibly created some friction between AG and Stotts.

Maybe there were some philosophies that AG wanted that Stotts disagreed with and Stotts was like, I coached Dame for 9 years, I know what I am doing, I'll run the show on offense.

AG being the head coach would probably take offense to that and that created the friction. Just my theory.

-Jragon- · Post #300 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:03 pm

slos wrote:Steve Nash seems like a good idea at this point. Maybe he can bring in the table what Stotts did without the ego and more hunger to prove himself.

Yeah.. actually. I'd say we need a former player with some energy/fire -- for the players to listen. But it probably has to be a study hard, attack weaknesses type for AG.