Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone and maybe Jennings (update pg131)

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #2821 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:41 pm

Miasma wrote:How many of you feel like this after 187 pages?

What is the longest thread ever on this board?

Baddy Chuck · Post #2822 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:41 pm

Sherman Douglas wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:CURRY IS BETTER THEN A TOP 10 PICK AND HE IS AROUND THE SAME AGE.

You are condoning trading Bogut for nothing to hopefully draft a player like Curry, how the **** don't you understand that?

I DON'T WANT A SINGLE TOP 10 PICK, how the **** don't you understand that?

Getting Curry PREVENTS us from getting high draft picks the same way Ellis would, the difference being Ellis would be here SHORT TERM.

What I want is this team blown up and for us to stop pretending like we're one or two pieces away from winning a championship. If we get Steph Curry, we're going to be the same **** team we are every year, attempting to fill the holes with players like Dunleavy and Chris Douglas-Roberts.

So what you're saying if we will get a top 10 pick, get a good player but that guy will have no impact at all winning and we will be in the lottery again and again for a few years? How does that work? We've seen we aren't a lottery team even without Bogut or whoever you get for him. A team like us needs to acquire assets at all costs.

Trading Bogut instead of getting an asset, to hopefully get an asset in the future is the most ass backwards logic I've ever **** seen.

Sherman Douglas · Post #2823 » by **Sherman Douglas** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:42 pm

I guess I can only try to sum it up this way:

I want the Bucks as a franchise to get their shot at drafting the next Howard or Kobe. Once you get that guy, you can lure in free agents to help complete your team. Instead our strategy as a franchise seems to be to draft the third wheel first, and then try to fill out the rest of the team by signing a bunch of mediocre players.

The only way this team becomes a free agent destination is if we strike gold like Cleveland did with LeBron, and that's not going to happen if we keep fighting for the 8 seed every season.

JustinCredible · Post #2824 » by **JustinCredible** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:42 pm

I am definitely going to find a feed for the Warriors game tonight to watch Ellis and Curry (if he plays).

Baddy Chuck · Post #2825 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:42 pm

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
Miasma wrote:How many of you feel like this after 187 pages?

What is the longest thread ever on this board?

I'd have to think if combined, the 08-09 trade threads would be pretty long with the R-Jeff and Redd trades.

JayMKE · Post #2826 » by **JayMKE** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:42 pm

this thread will hit 400 pages if a trade actually went down

ACGB · Post #2827 » by **ACGB** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:42 pm

As an Antarctic fan, I'll be leaving as soon as dippin' dots gets traded.

JBucks · Post #2828 » by **JBucks** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:43 pm

Monta Ellis is a human highlight reel, and his game is awesome. But I'd rather have Curry.

JayMKE · Post #2829 » by **JayMKE** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:43 pm

I straight up don't believe Curry isn't being shopped. Why else would Golden State play him after he supposedly got hurt? I think it was to show he wasn't seriously injured.

JustinCredible · Post #2830 » by **JustinCredible** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:44 pm

JayMKE wrote:this thread will hit 400 pages if a trade actually went down

If a trade goes down it will get its own thread and this one will be dead.

Sherman Douglas · Post #2831 » by **Sherman Douglas** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:45 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Trading Bogut instead of getting an asset, to hopefully get an asset in the future is the most ass backwards logic I've ever **** seen.

You're just never going to get this. The hope with trading Bogut and eventually Jennings is not that we get another Bogut or Jennings or Curry for that matter, the hope is that we get a LEGITIMATE franchise player, which we will ONLY get in the draft. There is zero chance we are going to lure a franchise player here in free agency or that we will trade for one. We don't have the assets to do a trade and we certainly aren't going to convince an elite player to come here in free agency with the franchise in the state it's in.

stevescheffler06 · Post #2832 » by **stevescheffler06** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:45 pm

ACGB wrote:As an Antarctic fan, I'll be leaving as soon as dippin' dots gets traded.

Lol

Baddy Chuck · Post #2833 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:45 pm

Sherman Douglas wrote:I guess I can only try to sum it up this way:

I want the Bucks as a franchise to get their shot at drafting the next Howard or Kobe. Once you get that guy, you can lure in free agents to help complete your team. Instead our strategy as a franchise seems to be to draft the third wheel first, and then try to fill out the rest of the team by signing a bunch of mediocre players.

The only way this team becomes a free agent destination is if we strike gold like Cleveland did with LeBron, and that's not going to happen if we keep fighting for the 8 seed every season.

We all want that, hell you could probably get that WITH Jennings and Curry. Golden State got a top 5 pick with those two, I don't think it would be that hard. The thing is, you trade the Ersan's, the Dunleavy's, the Delfino's for nothing if you really want to tank and build a team. Those guys are the glue guys that keep you from 20 wins, to say 30 wins. You don't trade a guy like Bogut, who can make a 20 win team a 35-40 win team for absolutely nothing, it's just stupid.

kid idioteque · Post #2834 » by **kid idioteque** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:45 pm

JayMKE wrote:I straight up don't believe Curry isn't being shopped. Why else would Golden State play him after he supposedly got hurt? I think it was to show he wasn't seriously injured.

I said that the other night and was shot down. They started him and then immediately benched him. It was odd.

Shinyhubcaps · Post #2835 » by **Shinyhubcaps** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:45 pm

Sherman Douglas wrote:I want the Bucks as a franchise to get their shot at drafting the next Howard or Kobe.

Wasn't Kobe drafted, like, 13th? Not sure if this was a segue into the tanking discussion...

JBucks · Post #2836 » by **JBucks** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:47 pm

In order for our GM to hit in the first round, we need a top 3 pick. He's that bad at measuring talent.

Baddy Chuck · Post #2837 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:47 pm

JBucks wrote:Monta Ellis is a human highlight reel, and his game is awesome. But I'd rather have Curry.

You like Monta's game, but absolutely despise Jennings.

Sherman Douglas · Post #2838 » by **Sherman Douglas** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:47 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Sherman Douglas wrote:I guess I can only try to sum it up this way:

I want the Bucks as a franchise to get their shot at drafting the next Howard or Kobe. Once you get that guy, you can lure in free agents to help complete your team. Instead our strategy as a franchise seems to be to draft the third wheel first, and then try to fill out the rest of the team by signing a bunch of mediocre players.

The only way this team becomes a free agent destination is if we strike gold like Cleveland did with LeBron, and that's not going to happen if we keep fighting for the 8 seed every season.

We all want that, hell you could probably get that WITH Jennings and Curry. Golden State got a top 5 pick with those two, I don't think it would be that hard. The thing is, you trade the Ersan's, the Dunleavy's, the Delfino's for nothing if you really want to tank and build a team. Those guys are the glue guys that keep you from 20 wins, to say 30 wins. You don't trade a guy like Bogut, who can make a 20 win team a 35-40 win team for absolutely nothing, it's just stupid.

The difference between us is that I see trading Bogut for Curry as trading for nothing, and you apparently don't. If Stephen Curry is good for us, do you think he stays here long term?

JBucks · Post #2839 » by **JBucks** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:48 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
JBucks wrote:Monta Ellis is a human highlight reel, and his game is awesome. But I'd rather have Curry.

You like Monta's game, but absolutely despise Jennings.

Go watch some of Monta Ellis' best highlights and then watch Jennings'. You have zero idea what you're talking about when you say I'm trolling.

Baddy Chuck · Post #2840 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:50 pm

Sherman Douglas wrote:The difference between us is that I see trading Bogut for Curry as trading for nothing, and you apparently don't. If Stephen Curry is good for us, do you think he stays here long term?

Absolutely, especially for his first deal after his rookie contract is up. Money talks.

Players can say money doesn't matter and for the big guys like LeBron, Howard etc, it's true, but if you are not a superstar you are not passing guaranteed dollars.