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breakchains wrote:paulpressey25 wrote:breakchains wrote:#2 is going to be pretty hard for me to determine, I think.
Jabari's last two games have made me simply want a top three pick. We just can't lose with a top three. It gets a lot more dicey after that.
Same here. For me its Embiid in tier 1, a drop off, Parker and Wiggins in tier 2, a drop off, Exum in tier 3, and then another drop off. The difference between 3 and 5 is huge IMO. Exum is just such a wild card that he'd be exciting to get but I'd be very nervous about it until I saw him play.
Really dude a drop off from embiid to wiggins n parker really the way embiid has played the last 2 ganes i think wiggins n parker are alot closer than what u are thinking,though that doesnt surprise me as embiid could score 4 points a game and u would still have a man crush on him and rate him #1
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breakchains wrote: Exum is just such a wild card that he'd be exciting to get but I'd be very nervous about it until I saw him play.
That's the problem. The unknown with him. We've all beaten up these other five guys over the last three months and still have another six-weeks of competition. I think anyone who says "Exum rules" or "Exum is a bum" is doing so from a very limited knowledge base.
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driese0824 wrote:breakchains wrote:paulpressey25 wrote:
Jabari's last two games have made me simply want a top three pick. We just can't lose with a top three. It gets a lot more dicey after that.
Same here. For me its Embiid in tier 1, a drop off, Parker and Wiggins in tier 2, a drop off, Exum in tier 3, and then another drop off. The difference between 3 and 5 is huge IMO. Exum is just such a wild card that he'd be exciting to get but I'd be very nervous about it until I saw him play.
Really dude a drop off from embiid to wiggins n parker really the way embiid has played the last 2 ganes i think wiggins n parker are alot closer than what u are thinking,though that doesnt surprise me as embiid could score 4 points a game and u would still have a man crush on him and rate him #1
It's my rankings. You don't have to agree.
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paulpressey25 wrote:breakchains wrote: Exum is just such a wild card that he'd be exciting to get but I'd be very nervous about it until I saw him play.
That's the problem. The unknown with him. We've all beaten up these other five guys over the last three months and still have another six-weeks of competition. I think anyone who says "Exum rules" or "Exum is a bum" is doing so from a very limited knowledge base.
There is A LOT more video of Exum's games than there was of Giannis predraft
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paulpressey25 wrote:breakchains wrote: Exum is just such a wild card that he'd be exciting to get but I'd be very nervous about it until I saw him play.
That's the problem. The unknown with him. We've all beaten up these other five guys over the last three months and still have another six-weeks of competition. I think anyone who says "Exum rules" or "Exum is a bum" is doing so from a very limited knowledge base.
Yeah, what I think is, let's say Randle didn't play at all this year. Given his pedigree and his hype, I can almost assure you he'd be in this "big 4" convo like Exum is now. But because we got a chance to watch him play, we have (rightfully) dropped him from the elite prospect tiers. And that's with him being a very productive, double-double machine.
I think there's almost no way I'd take Exum top 3, but I also think there's almost no way I'd take anyone over him at 4. Pretty interesting situation.
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DocHoliday wrote:paulpressey25 wrote:breakchains wrote: Exum is just such a wild card that he'd be exciting to get but I'd be very nervous about it until I saw him play.
That's the problem. The unknown with him. We've all beaten up these other five guys over the last three months and still have another six-weeks of competition. I think anyone who says "Exum rules" or "Exum is a bum" is doing so from a very limited knowledge base.
There is A LOT more video of Exum's games than there was of Giannis predraft
Yeah, but Giannis went 15 in a weak draft. Here, some are talking taking Exum as high as #1, and many saying #2-3. That would mean that the risk is much higher than there was with Giannis at 15, because you'd be passing on Embiid/Wiggins/Parker in the process.
So for me, the risk/reward calculus on Exum puts him at #4.
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Tier 1: Embiid/Parker. They remind me of a mini-version of Oden/Durant. I wanted Durant because we already had Bogut. Will Embiid surpass the combo of Henson/Sanders in the pivot? That's what the Bucks will have to decide.
1. Embiid
2. Parker
Tier 2: Exum, Smart, Wiggins
3. Smart
4. Exum
5. Wiggins
1. Embiid
2. Parker
Tier 2: Exum, Smart, Wiggins
3. Smart
4. Exum
5. Wiggins
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1. Embiid
2. Wiggins
3. Parker
4. Exum
5. Vonleh
2. Wiggins
3. Parker
4. Exum
5. Vonleh
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1. Wiggins
2. Embiid
3. Exum
4. Parker
5. Vonleh
Pretty big gap between top 3 and Parker and a huge gap between Parker and Vonleh
2. Embiid
3. Exum
4. Parker
5. Vonleh
Pretty big gap between top 3 and Parker and a huge gap between Parker and Vonleh
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Wise1 wrote:Tier 1: Embiid/Parker. They remind me of a mini-version of Oden/Durant. I wanted Durant because we already had Bogut. Will Embiid surpass the combo of Henson/Sanders in the pivot? That's what the Bucks will have to decide.
1. Embiid
2. Parker
Tier 2: Exum, Smart, Wiggins
3. Smart
4. Exum
5. Wiggins
I'm guessing you haven't seen any Oklahoma State games this yr.
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Yeah, I definitely hope we don't end up with Randle/Smart in this draft. Either would be massively disappointing after all the horribleness of this season.
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Serge28 wrote:Yeah, I definitely hope we don't end up with Randle/Smart in this draft. Either would be massively disappointing after all the horribleness of this season.
I'm not even sure I have them as 6 and 7. It's between those two and Saric
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driese0824 wrote:EastSideBucksFan wrote:El Pooch Grande wrote:Wiggins with the rebound jam at the buzzer of the 1st half...soared over people!!!
When I think of the potential of a Wiggins and Giannis fast break and their ability to attack the basket and the fear it would put into opposing teams trying to play transition defense......
Thats why without doubt 1st pick or not wiggins is who im taking great post
Wiggins is still #1 for me too, though Embiid looks spectacular too. Just watching Embiid shoot free throws, smooth and coordinated, much more than most NBA 7-footers.
Besides the transition game, Wiggins and Giannis would rack up the FTs. Both those guys can get to the line a ton.
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I just watched Vonleh for pretty much the first time. He is a very good big man. I wouldn't take him with our pick (presumably top 4), but I would love to get him if we could find a way to get another pick in the lottery.
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PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:I just watched Vonleh for pretty much the first time. He is a very good big man. I wouldn't take him with our pick (presumably top 4), but I would love to some how get him if we could find a way to get another pick in the lottery.
I'll be interested to see what he decides to do after this season. I can see an argument that it would make more sense for him to stay another year.
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Yeah I could see him returning to school. I think if he is projected to go top 10 that he may come out.
BucksRuleAll22 wrote:Calvin Johnson is horrible and not a top WR.
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Smart just pushed an old guy in the stands.
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Marcus Smart fell into the row of photographers defending on a break. He got up and turned to this 50 year old dude in the crowd and shoved him. Hes not helping his draft stock tonight.
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Can't believe Smart wasn't thrown out. No clue what that guy said, and it doesn't really matter.