The Official Playoffs Thread

lawrybeard · Post #2941 » by **lawrybeard** » Fri May 29, 2009 3:24 am

I didn't realise saying someone taking 20 free throw attempts in a game means they played poorly (or anything about their game for that matter). Obviously my communications skills aren't up to standard.

mbucks22 · Post #2942 » by **mbucks22** » Fri May 29, 2009 3:28 am

LeBron involved on 32 straight points. That's incredible.

Ayt · Post #2943 » by **Ayt** » Fri May 29, 2009 3:33 am

mbucks22 wrote:LeBron involved on 32 straight points. That's incredible.

Sick. What an incredible game for LeCrab.

Its good that Mo finally decided to show up. If he shows up again, there could easily be a game 7.

MilBucksBackOnTop06 · Post #2944 » by **MilBucksBackOnTop06** » Fri May 29, 2009 3:33 am

You know what, I have not watch one second or the playoffs until tonite because I on my way out the door to go to 'Pizza Shuttle' and it is something to do...

However, I am watching Pietrus here guarding LeBron and I look forward to the day when Luc Richard M' Bah Moute will be able to be on this stage and lock him up!

Luc Richard and Jonny Flynn or Gerald Henderson would shut him down! Luc Richard improve your game man, and we will be there real soon!

Damn! CAN THEY POSSIBLY GET THAT CAMERA ANY CLOSER TO LE'BRONS FACE!!!!?

lmaoooooooooo

midranger · Post #2945 » by **midranger** » Fri May 29, 2009 3:34 am

It's unbelievable what it took for the Cavs to win that game. 50% FG, 9 threes at 50%, 80% FT, 13 missed FTs for the Magic.

Their defense needs to step it up HUGE in Orlando.

trwi7 · Post #2946 » by **trwi7** » Fri May 29, 2009 3:38 am

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:Luc Richard and Jonny Flynn or Gerald Henderson would shut him down!

OMG, somebody sig the part where MBBOT says Jonny Flynn would shut down LeBron. :rofl:

Ayt · Post #2947 » by **Ayt** » Fri May 29, 2009 3:45 am

trwi7 wrote:
MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:Luc Richard and Jonny Flynn or Gerald Henderson would shut him down!

OMG, somebody sig the part where MBBOT says Jonny Flynn would shut down LeBron.

And as much as a like the guy, LRMAM got lit the **** up by LeBron this year.

MilBucksBackOnTop06 · Post #2948 » by **MilBucksBackOnTop06** » Fri May 29, 2009 4:17 am

mbucks22 wrote:LeBron involved on 32 straight points. That's incredible.

Nowthat is the type of 'playmaker' and 'difference maker' we need to draft and acquire...

That is what Flynn did at Sycracuse. Being involved in every winning play and big play down the stretch.

That is why certain teams are still playing, and certain teams are at home because of the lack of this.

The Bucks are not far if they do the right things...

Bogut must approach some kind of stardom like Howard, Redd must come all the way back and Flynn must be allowed to have the team on his broad shoulders and get everyone flowing.

Then you have Luc Richard and Keith Bogans or David Noel as you lock down defenders on the top and we got it going on...next year!

MilBucksBackOnTop06 · Post #2949 » by **MilBucksBackOnTop06** » Fri May 29, 2009 4:29 am

trwi7 wrote:
MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:Luc Richard and Jonny Flynn or Gerald Henderson would shut him down!

OMG, somebody sig the part where MBBOT says Jonny Flynn would shut down LeBron.

Laugh all you want to my friend...

But Le'Bron has a suspect high dribble! If you guard the ball when he spins and whirls you can rip him every time! Watch him. He has that playground dribble that is lazy and slow.

The only reason he gets by or gets away with it, is that he has the best first step (or walk/travel depending on who you ask) of anyone in the world it seems. :roll:

But Le'Bron and guys like him can be ripped by a guy with a great low center of gravity like a Flynn and sweet feet and quick hands, timing and great instinctive anticipation as I see only two guys on the college level have above anyone else.

Jonny Flynn and our Dominic James of Marquette and perhaps Demarre Carroll. It is not always about height, but it is about size... The size of a players will and heart matters.

In fact, I don't know why they NBA only looks at DPOY has shotblockers. What about steals? Walt Frazier or Jerry Sloan or a Nate Archibald even today would win DPOY every year today.

But no one tries it because you are afraid to get posterized or a foul so know one has the guts to do it! Hell, even Luke Ridnour is adept at ripping away the ball from guys like Lebron!

All you have to do is get a wide base and use your feet and hands, not use your hands to reach and grab by being out of position...then that is a foul.

But throw a token double team on him where JF10 comes from the weakside you can get him and have a dual lockdown of Lebron and Kobe.

I am telling you right now, we need to draft a player to go with Luc Richard and build off that!

But either quick guys can lock him down and contain him or guys his size like Henderson from Duke and M'Bah Moute our poor man's Ron Artest on defense.

What is so funny about that? Chris Paul is Flynn's size and is a great on ball defender. You can strip Lebron. Orlando just does not have a guy who can do it. I am telling you his 'handle' is weak!

Post #2950 » by **Jollay** » Fri May 29, 2009 4:44 am

Can someone explain to me why:

A) Mike Brown continues to use Lebron defensively like he does in a "centerfield" respect, technically guarding Alston but not really? What a criminal misuse of his defensive ability--like refs are going to foul him out or something...NOTE:they finally stopped this late in the game; yu saw the results: steals and Cavs breaking it open.

B) Dwight Howard is playing defense like he does? 3 blocks a game regular season, 6 total this series? He's impeding people in the lane, but not really actually going for blocks, more just jumping in the air with both hands up--if you're gong to put yourself at risk for fouls anyway--at least go for blocks....

Ex: Did you see his foul on the Ilgauskas drive from the perimeter--why get in front of him on help--why not just go after the shotblock after just letting him past?

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #2951 » by **Buck You** » Fri May 29, 2009 4:58 am

When was the last time Kobe got a triple double in the playoffs?

Ayt · Post #2952 » by **Ayt** » Fri May 29, 2009 5:05 am

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:When was the last time Kobe got a triple double in the playoffs?

He never has.

midranger · Post #2953 » by **midranger** » Fri May 29, 2009 5:05 am

Jollay wrote:Can someone explain to me why:

A) Mike Brown continues to use Lebron defensively like he does in a "centerfield" respect, technically guarding Alston but not really? What a criminal misuse of his defensive ability--like refs are going to foul him out or something...NOTE:they finally stopped this late in the game; yu saw the results: steals and Cavs breaking it open.

This has baffled me since Game 1. It's obvious what is killing the Cavs. It's the Hedo high pick and roll, and he's made the right call almost every time. If I'm Brown, I'm throwing Lebron on Hedo and having him deny the ball and fight over screens like a madman with his bulk. No one else on their team is equivalent as a playmaker and I think it'd screw their entire offense. I think I'd also start Joe Smith to chase Lewis around and save fouls on Varejao to use on Howard.

trwi7 · Post #2954 » by **trwi7** » Fri May 29, 2009 5:08 am

I could only find game logs dating back to 99-00, but he hasn't had any in that time frame.

Nebula1 · Post #2955 » by **Nebula1** » Fri May 29, 2009 5:15 am

Should be a good game six. Lots of pressure on Orlando to get it done. I imagine Lebron can't wait to play the next game.

Go Kobe (and Dwight).

midranger · Post #2956 » by **midranger** » Fri May 29, 2009 5:21 am

Cavs have to match up like this....

Delonte - Alston
Mo - Lee
Lebron Hedo
Smith - Lewis
Z - Howard

Put your two best defenders on their only two playmakers and see how much easier it becomes. Force Lewis to be the facilitator, while taking away his post game by placing Smith on him.

Post #2957 » by **Jollay** » Fri May 29, 2009 5:36 am

midranger wrote:
Jollay wrote:Can someone explain to me why:

A) Mike Brown continues to use Lebron defensively like he does in a "centerfield" respect, technically guarding Alston but not really? What a criminal misuse of his defensive ability--like refs are going to foul him out or something...NOTE:they finally stopped this late in the game; yu saw the results: steals and Cavs breaking it open.

This has baffled me since Game 1. It's obvious what is killing the Cavs. It's the Hedo high pick and roll, and he's made the right call almost every time. If I'm Brown, I'm throwing Lebron on Hedo and having him deny the ball and fight over screens like a madman with his bulk. No one else on their team is equivalent as a playmaker and I think it'd screw their entire offense. I think I'd also start Joe Smith to chase Lewis around and save fouls on Varejao to use on Howard.

I agree completely with both.

Been really taken aback at apparently how mediocre a coach Mike Brown actually is from this series, if even that.

And what did Alston have last game, 28 or something? Weird.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #2958 » by **Buck You** » Fri May 29, 2009 7:17 am

Ayt wrote:
ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:When was the last time Kobe got a triple double in the playoffs?

He never has.

Figures. I thought Kobe never had one, just making sure.

Oh and good game by Mo tonight. Thought I should add that after I ripped him for game 4.

But he's gotta do it consistently.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #2959 » by **Buck You** » Fri May 29, 2009 7:19 am

Jollay wrote:
midranger wrote:
Jollay wrote:Can someone explain to me why:

A) Mike Brown continues to use Lebron defensively like he does in a "centerfield" respect, technically guarding Alston but not really? What a criminal misuse of his defensive ability--like refs are going to foul him out or something...NOTE:they finally stopped this late in the game; yu saw the results: steals and Cavs breaking it open.

This has baffled me since Game 1. It's obvious what is killing the Cavs. It's the Hedo high pick and roll, and he's made the right call almost every time. If I'm Brown, I'm throwing Lebron on Hedo and having him deny the ball and fight over screens like a madman with his bulk. No one else on their team is equivalent as a playmaker and I think it'd screw their entire offense. I think I'd also start Joe Smith to chase Lewis around and save fouls on Varejao to use on Howard.

I agree completely with both.

Been really taken aback at apparently how mediocre a coach Mike Brown actually is from this series, if even that.

And what did Alston have last game, 28 or something? Weird.

He doesn't even draw up the offensive plays..

paul · Post #2960 » by **paul** » Fri May 29, 2009 7:35 am

Yeah Mo stepped up tonight without doubt - good to see but on the flipside it's been a very long time coming, I have to think this series would be over right now and the Cavs would be through if he'd played close to that level for even 3 games while Lebron has been doing his thing. That being said he was unable to make anything at all happen for his teammates with the ball in his hands, the reliance on Lebron in that regard is scarey, still he made some shots which was very important.

There's no doubt the Cavs are still in this series if they can get that effort from Mo again, the Magic showed themselves to be prone to making some very poor decisions in the last 5 minutes tonight, I wonder if they are tightening up a little. Personally I think the series will be over in 6.

And yes proclaiming Coach Brown as anything close to the 'coach of the year' is as ridiculous as those who claimed Mo would have been an allstar with or without Lebron - Lebron is the franchise from the coach through the GM and players, they all look significantly better due to his quite amazing abilities.