The Official Playoffs Thread

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #2961 » by **Buck You** » Fri May 29, 2009 7:36 am

Mo shoots too many jumpers. You saw how effective he was in the first quarter when he was driving and how effective West was when he posted up. But they went away from that for some reason.

paul · Post #2962 » by **paul** » Fri May 29, 2009 7:41 am

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:Mo shoots too many jumpers. You saw how effective he was in the first quarter when he was driving and how effective West was when he posted up. But they went away from that for some reason.

That's his game, there's little else to it so he might as well play to his strengths. Mo played significantly better tonight but his overall game still wasn't very good - it just doesn't really have to be when he's playing beside Lebron. He just has to give them SOMETHING as he did tonight.

europa · Post #2963 » by **europa** » Fri May 29, 2009 1:23 pm

Great job by the Cavs. Huge amount of pressure on the Magic now. If they lose Game 6, that could be the series for them. The Cavs would have all the momentum. It will be interesting to see how the Magic handle things.

LUKE23 · Post #2964 » by **LUKE23** » Fri May 29, 2009 1:26 pm

Magic have to win it in game 6. Home teams rarely lose game 7's.

Ayt · Post #2965 » by **Ayt** » Fri May 29, 2009 7:49 pm

Can Mo handle the pressure on the road? Will Teen Wolf show up when it counts? More to come...

WEFFPIM · Post #2966 » by **WEFFPIM** » Fri May 29, 2009 7:54 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Magic have to win it in game 6. Home teams rarely lose game 7's.

The last time a road team won a Game 7, well it was last round and it was the Magic.

I agree with you, but I don't think it's a death sentence if it goes to 7 for the Magic.

rilamann · Post #2967 » by **rilamann** » Fri May 29, 2009 8:46 pm

I think the Cavs are the ones who are under more pressure in game 6.

The Cavs are the team with the league MVP,the Cavs are the team with the best record in the league and the Cavs are the ones down 2-3 facing elimination on the road in game 6.

I understand the thinking that maybe Orlando is feeling pressure because if they lose game 6 they have to play game 7 in Cleveland.If you look at it from the Cavs perspective though the Cavs are the ones under more pressure in game 6.

And last night's game actually wouldn't give me much confidence if im the Cavs because Lebron and the Cavs as a team played about as well as they could play and the Magic really didn't play well at all.Yet the Magic had the lead going into the 4th and still had a chance to win in the final minutes.

Alston was 1-10,Rashard Lewis was 4-13 and Dwight was in foul trouble all while the Magic missed 13 free throws and yet the Magic where still right there in the final minutes in the Cavs house.

That's not a good sign for the Cavs going into Orlando for game 6.

I think the keys to the game for Orlando in game 6 are simple,play your A game and hope the refs actually let Dwight Howard play and not call him for ticky tack fouls.If Dwight gets into foul trouble and or the Magic play a B or a C type of game they likely will lose and I look at like this,if you can't bring your A game in a close out game at home to go to the NBA finals then you don't deserve to win.

It's going to be a great game.

Magic sure looked they where under pressure and nervous tonight what was I thinking.

:lol:

LUKE23 · Post #2968 » by **LUKE23** » Fri May 29, 2009 8:49 pm

The last time a road team won a Game 7, well it was last round and it was the Magic.

True, but C's were without their best player. That is definitely relevant. I'd like to see the % of home teams that win game 7's.

trwi7 · Post #2969 » by **trwi7** » Fri May 29, 2009 8:51 pm

rilamann wrote:I think the Cavs are the ones who are under more pressure in game 6.

Obviously. If they lose, they're done. However, there's still a good amount of pressure on Orlando. They want to close this series out. The chances of a road team winning game 7 on the road aren't good to begin with. They're even worse when the home team has only lost 3 home games all year (including one where they sat out their main players and still almost won.)

rilamann · Post #2970 » by **rilamann** » Fri May 29, 2009 9:11 pm

Orlando doesn't strike me as the type of team that would feel pressure or get nervous/scared in this situation.Sure some teams probably would but not this Oraando team.

Orlando seems more like a team that would go into a game like this with more of a mentality of ''lets bring our A game and win this game to go to the Finals'' rather than ''lets win this game so we don't have to play a game 7 in Clev''.

If Orlando takes on the mentality of playing to avoid a game 7 then yea they will feel pressure and might choke and will have a good chance of losing game 6.

If they take on the mentality of winning to go to the NBA Finals then they probably win and Orlando seems like the type of team that will take on this mentality.I think if Orlando wasn't the type of team to take on that mentality they wouldn't be in the position they are in right now.

Basically what im talking about is the classic ''play to win'' rather than the ''play not to lose'' mentality.

If Orlando played with a ''play not to lose'' mentality they wouldn't be in a position to to win a game at home that would send them to the NBA Finals.

Sure the Cavs could very well win game 6 but I just disagree that Orlando is under a bunch of pressure I think the Cavs are under more pressure in game 6.

jerrod · Post #2971 » by **jerrod** » Fri May 29, 2009 9:36 pm

you used the word "mentality" in 5 straight paragraphs

edit: i don't mean that negatively, it just really stuck out to me

Wise1 · Post #2972 » by **Wise1** » Sat May 30, 2009 3:16 am

Jack Bauer.

Mags FTW · Post #2973 » by **Mags FTW** » Sat May 30, 2009 3:40 am

lol, gg Denver

I wish there was a way we could get the Nuggs to take Redd. Only thing that really works and make any kind of sense is Smith and Martin. Birdman should get a nice contract.

jerrod · Post #2974 » by **jerrod** » Sat May 30, 2009 3:42 am

Mags FTW wrote:lol, gg Denver

I wish there was a way we could get the Nuggs to take Redd. Only thing that really works and make any kind of sense is Smith and Martin. Birdman should get a nice contract.

i don't know, i don't really want to ruin a good team that's fun to watch

Mags FTW · Post #2975 » by **Mags FTW** » Sat May 30, 2009 3:46 am

I think Billups would put Redd in check. Simmons was talking about how much pull Billups has in one of his podcasts. Smith was playing like an idiot one night (in other words, playing like JR Smith) and Billups went up to Karl and said get him off the f'n court and I don't want to see him the rest of the game. Karl did it.

Wise1 · Post #2976 » by **Wise1** » Sat May 30, 2009 3:48 am

Mags FTW wrote:lol, gg Denver

I wish there was a way we could get the Nuggs to take Redd. Only thing that really works and make any kind of sense is Smith and Martin. Birdman should get a nice contract.

I put forth trading Mo Williams and filler for Kenyon Martin's contract and no one but MBBOT thought it was a good idea. That would have been a great trade for the Bucks. Certainly better than what we ultimately got for Mo.

europa · Post #2977 » by **europa** » Sat May 30, 2009 3:51 am

Mags FTW wrote:I think Billups would put Redd in check. Simmons was talking about how much pull Billups has in one of his podcasts. Smith was playing like an idiot one night (in other words, playing like JR Smith) and Billups went up to Karl and said get him off the f'n court and I don't want to see him the rest of the game. Karl did it.

It's silly to think Redd would be a problem on the Nuggets. He'd be a great fit. He's not as erratic as Smith can sometimes be and he would be a terrific third option to team with Billups and Melo. The problem is there's nothing that really works for the Bucks in terms of helping them out financially. Martin expires the same year as Redd so that's of no help. I don't see the Bucks and Nuggets being strong trade partners when it comes to Redd.

Props to the Lakers for closing it out tonight. Kobe showed why he's a great player and the Lakers put it all together when they needed to.

europa · Post #2978 » by **europa** » Sat May 30, 2009 3:52 am

Wise1 wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:lol, gg Denver

I wish there was a way we could get the Nuggs to take Redd. Only thing that really works and make any kind of sense is Smith and Martin. Birdman should get a nice contract.

I put forth trading Mo Williams and filler for Kenyon Martin's contract and no one but MBBOT thought it was a good idea. That would have been a great trade for the Bucks. Certainly better than what we ultimately got for Mo.

Not financially. Ridnour expires sooner than Martin so from a financial perspective Ridnour was a much more preferable option.

And the fact MBBOT agreed with you should've been a sign right away.

Mags FTW · Post #2979 » by **Mags FTW** » Sat May 30, 2009 3:54 am

Before JR Smith got that new deal Redd and CV for Smith and Martin worked.

Mags FTW · Post #2980 » by **Mags FTW** » Sat May 30, 2009 3:57 am

europa wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:I think Billups would put Redd in check. Simmons was talking about how much pull Billups has in one of his podcasts. Smith was playing like an idiot one night (in other words, playing like JR Smith) and Billups went up to Karl and said get him off the f'n court and I don't want to see him the rest of the game. Karl did it.

It's silly to think Redd would be a problem on the Nuggets. He'd be a great fit. He's not as erratic as Smith can sometimes be and he would be a terrific third option to team with Billups and Melo. The problem is there's nothing that really works for the Bucks in terms of helping them out financially.

Financially it doesn't help us, but it fills a hole at PF and gives us someone who can score off the bench. Slide RJ over to SG and draft Clark or DeRozen.