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Re: Mayo signs with Bucks - 3 years/$24 million per Woj 

Post#301 » by TroyD92 » Sat Jul 6, 2013 1:13 pm

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Bernman wrote:We have low standards in Milwaukee. Like DB stated early on in this thread, Mayo has been a net negative so far in his career. He's only had one Roland Rating that eclipsed 0 thus far in his career, and it was just barely, at +0.5, a few years ago. And we're happy we only gave him 8 million per year? I guess it's an OK deal for the Bucks, when precedents are contracts like 5/32 for Drew freaking Gooden.

A lot of people here were scared about overpaying Smith, but he only got 6 million per year, and he's a much better player than Mayo. Smith's Roland Ratings during Mayo's career: +3.7, +0.5, +1.8, +3.5, and +6.5. I'd have been thrilled with giving him 8-9 million per year in comparison. That should have landed him in Milwaukee.

I think this is another mistake by the Bucks, it's just not a Bucks' bad mistake, so I guess we're supposed be relieved about that. It's sickening being a fan of this franchise. <Cue Jim Paschke clone appearing to tell me how much of a baby I am to expect to win more than 43% of the time and have occasional hope to contend>


I would have rather not signed Mayo, but would take him before JR Smith for many reasons:

-Much less of a Knucklehead. Can you imagine JR Smith in MIL on a losing team? Last thing we need is him poisoning MIL's young players

-If JR is better, all the reason for Mayo. We don't need JR catching fire during the year and hurting any tanking efforts


Well all of our young players will be traded by the deadline so you can cross that one off. :D
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Re: Mayo signs with Bucks - 3 years/$24 million per Woj 

Post#302 » by braindazer » Sat Jul 6, 2013 1:30 pm

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Re: Mayo signs with Bucks - 3 years/$24 million per Woj 

Post#303 » by MikeIsGood » Sat Jul 6, 2013 1:33 pm

Maybe he can lead us back to the playoffs and proceed to play like complete **** like he did for Memphis :blank:

The silver lining is that the contract isn't killer, and he has the talent to actually be a good player - so there's a chance there. But I'm sick of having to come up with silver linings for signings and trades that we make.
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Post#304 » by showtimesam » Sat Jul 6, 2013 1:37 pm

With the Hawks re-upping Korver and bringing in Millsap they are definitely not going to tank now.

Looks like Jeff Teague will probably be nearly impossible to pry away from them, which was the key to making this a successful offseason.

If Teague is out of play then we might as well roll with Jennings on the 1 year QO and then bring in a 3rd combo guard (either Devin Harris or Jack) that can push Jennings for minutes when he's playing like a turd.

As for the SF spot, I would be on board with either the Ellis sign and Trade for Chandler or AK47 if its no more than a 3 year deal. AK has had a number of back issues so we probably won't be able to count on him staying healthy.
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Re: Mayo signs with Bucks - 3 years/$24 million per Woj 

Post#305 » by LUKE23 » Sat Jul 6, 2013 1:38 pm

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The Milwaukee Bucks are expected to let Monta Ellis get rich somewhere else. In addition to that, they have also just sent J.J. Redick to the Los Angeles Clippers in exchange for, well, nothing substantial (two second-round picks). With a gaping hole at shooting guard now glaring, it’s been reported that the Bucks are finalizing a deal with free agent O.J. Mayo. This move certainly fits an immediate need. Assuming the Bucks re-sign Brandon Jennings, Mayo would fit nicely in the backcourt as a knockdown shooter who isn’t as ball dominant as a guy like Ellis was. But is he a better fit than J.J. Redick would have been had he been given an opportunity here? And what exactly is the direction this franchise is choosing to go?

O.J. Mayo is a nice player. Is he the stud many projected him to be while he was dominating as a prep school prospect? No. Is he the franchise-changing guard the Memphis Grizzlies thought they were getting when they flipped Kevin Love for him on draft day in 2008? Of course not. But Mayo has proven to be a solid rotation player who can shoot (40.7 percent from deep with Dallas last season) and, at times, be a second option when the situation presents itself.

Herein lies the problem for the Bucks. The addition of O.J. Mayo may improve this team in 2013-14, but it certainly doesn’t make them contenders. With the Boston Celtics and possibly Atlanta Hawks headed into the tank, the Bucks may have a shot at a sixth seed in the Eastern Conference and probably no better than that. Bleh. No lottery pick. No meaningful second-round playoff games. The decision to draft Greek prospect Giannis Antetokounmpo, a player who is not yet ready to make a contribution on an NBA roster, seemed to signal a complete rebuild. But by adding Mayo to the roster and potentially re-signing Brandon Jennings, it appears the Milwaukee front office isn’t yet ready to commit to another roster overhaul or a true rebuild. The goal for every team in the NBA is (should be?) to win a championship and at the end of the day, without some SUBSTANTIAL interior growth from players currently on the roster such as Larry Sanders, John Henson and even Brandon Jennings, this roster will not get close.

In the Milwaukee Bucks, we are looking at team without a plan. The Boston Celtics, who were in a similar situation, blew up their roster, acquired a ton of picks and aligned themselves to have a tremendous opportunity to acquire a franchise player and some quality, movable assets over the next few seasons. The Brooklyn Nets, also stuck on the cusp, elected to take a different route; sending out picks, young players and essentially mortgaging their future in order to compete for a title over the next few years. Both decisions were commendable. Both teams, in their own way, committed to getting closer to an NBA title. Milwaukee, by spending money on marginal free agents who will ever so slightly improve the roster, while also drafting boom-or-bust prospects who will take years to develop, is doing a disservice to their fans by not striving for that same goal.

Their are several ways to build a contender in the NBA. If you have a franchise located in a destination city like Miami, New York, or L.A., acquiring free agents will always be the way to go. Small-market teams in the NBA need to take a different route and no offense to the city of Milwaukee, but NBA players don’t appear to be lusting to migrate there. With the 2014 NBA Draft being projected by many as one of the most talented drafts the NBA has ever had, middle-of-the-pack, small-market teams such as Milwaukee have a golden opportunity to start over and retool around a potential franchise player. But by signing O.J. Mayo and retaining Brandon Jennings, Milwaukee has elected to forego that route, instead content being first-round cannon fodder against one the top teams in the Eastern Conference for the next few seasons.
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Re: Mayo signs with Bucks - 3 years/$24 million per Woj 

Post#306 » by blazza18 » Sat Jul 6, 2013 1:48 pm

Pretty good write up. Sums it all up.
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Re: Mayo signs with Bucks - 3 years/$24 million per Woj 

Post#307 » by Larry Hensen » Sat Jul 6, 2013 1:58 pm

What about Darrell Wright? He plays the SF and I know he's friends with Jennings. 3/15?
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Post#308 » by europa » Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:02 pm

We all know what the fundamental philosophical issues are with this team. But as long as Kohl is the owner nothing is going to change in that regard. So given the Bucks' mindset I'd much rather acquire someone like Mayo than guys like Redick, Korver, JR Smith or Kevin Martin. At least there's the possibility (however slim it may be) that he could develop into something for the future, unlike those other types of veteran retreads.
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Re: Mayo signs with Bucks - 3 years/$24 million per Woj 

Post#309 » by showtimesam » Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:05 pm

This Mayo deal is rock solid. The thing that makes it seem pointless is that it comes less than a week after fumbling away the chance to land Eric Bledsoe.
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Post#310 » by MrPerfect1 » Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:11 pm

That article thinks ATL is tanking? Someone should tell that to ATL who signed re-signed Korver, signed MIllsap, and likely will keep Teague. I'll believe a Rondo trade when I see it. Bos is asking an arm and a leg for him and am very skeptical that anyone meets their price.

Improvement from Wash, Clev (Irving, #1 overall pick, Waiters improving, Varejo maybe healthy), and Det make a #6 seed for MIL very hard to imagine unless Henson turns into Tim Duncan and Mayo becomes a borderline All Star
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Re: Mayo signs with Bucks - 3 years/$24 million per Woj 

Post#311 » by LUKE23 » Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:13 pm

That article was written before the Millsap deal.

ATL would have been smart to tank for sure though assuming they didn't land Paul or Howard. Boston I'm guessing will end up moving Rondo, and even if they don't, they are lotto for sure. The rest of that roster other than Bradley is trash.
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Post#312 » by Chapter29 » Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:15 pm

europa wrote:We all know what the fundamental philosophical issues are with this team. But as long as Kohl is the owner nothing is going to change in that regard. So given the Bucks' mindset I'd much rather acquire someone like Mayo than guys like Redick, Korver, JR Smith or Kevin Martin. At least there's the possibility (however slim it may be) that he could develop into something for the future, unlike those other types of veteran retreads.


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Post#313 » by Sigra » Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:21 pm

Rondo would be perfect for this team now. Trade for Rondo and sign Delfino and we should be at least interesting.
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Post#314 » by MrPerfect1 » Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:22 pm

I would love Rondo on this team, although Bos would want something crazy like Henson + 2014#1 for him. Their price tag is huge
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Post#315 » by braindazer » Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:23 pm

No to Rondo for me . We don't need nor want any part of that.
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Post#316 » by trwi7 » Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:23 pm

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Post#317 » by LUKE23 » Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:24 pm

I wouldn't trade Henson/Sanders/Giannis/2014 pick for Rondo. So in other words, not happening.
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Post#318 » by Chapter29 » Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:26 pm

I don't want to make a move for Rondo.
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Post#320 » by europa » Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:35 pm

The only possible Rondo trade that I would consider would involve Henson and Jennings. I have no problem parting with Henson to get Rondo. However, I have no idea why the Celtics would want Jennings. So I don't see the Bucks and Celtics being good trade partners for Rondo.
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