Arena Construction - Make pitch for ASG in 22/23. pg 95

Post #301 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:34 pm

MadBlueEdwards wrote:UWM students came up with some ideas for the arena district. Pretty cool slideshow.

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/blog/2015/11/thinking-big-uwm-students-draft-ambitious-concepts.html#g20

An interesting mix of ideas.

Gianstoppable · Post #302 » by **Gianstoppable** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:37 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:
MadBlueEdwards wrote:UWM students came up with some ideas for the arena district. Pretty cool slideshow.

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/blog/2015/11/thinking-big-uwm-students-draft-ambitious-concepts.html#g20

An interesting mix of ideas.

Look out UWM, I don't see many people of other colors than white in those pictures...

KidA24 · Post #303 » by **KidA24** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:42 pm

Interesting ideas, but I feel like they forgot that there is this thing called winter in Milwaukee.

bigkurty · Post #304 » by **bigkurty** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:15 pm

KidA24 wrote:Interesting ideas, but I feel like they forgot that there is this thing called winter in Milwaukee.

Yeah and that's why I don't get the arena design including an outdoor beer garden space. Seriously just enclose that part in and make it like a little oasis.
Look at this picture

That **** is never going to happen. No one is hanging out outside like that when it gets cold and windy.

Post #305 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:27 pm

Yeah somehow they need to make the "beer garden" area a year round place. If it's open air it won't be any good in winter no matter how many heaters they put around the area.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #306 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:37 pm

Maybe those poles on top are for the retractable roof.

MadBlueEdwards · Post #307 » by **MadBlueEdwards** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:37 pm

Gianstoppable wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
MadBlueEdwards wrote:UWM students came up with some ideas for the arena district. Pretty cool slideshow.

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/blog/2015/11/thinking-big-uwm-students-draft-ambitious-concepts.html#g20

An interesting mix of ideas.

Look out UWM, I don't see many people of other colors than white in those pictures...

I noticed they included a throwback Oscar Robertson jersey in one of them. I'm sure it was supposed to be a neon-green Mookie Blaylock.

Post #308 » by **humanrefutation** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:53 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Yeah somehow they need to make the "beer garden" area a year round place. If it's open air it won't be any good in winter no matter how many heaters they put around the area.

Unless they make it tailgating-friendly. Then you still might see a winter crowd out there.

HaroldinGMinor · Post #309 » by **HaroldinGMinor** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:59 pm

I believe it's got a roof but open on one side. And I think Edens mentioned that it's going to be a year round deal....wants people to congregate for all the big sporting events there.

HKPackFan · Post #310 » by **HKPackFan** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:35 am

Gianstoppable wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
MadBlueEdwards wrote:UWM students came up with some ideas for the arena district. Pretty cool slideshow.

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/blog/2015/11/thinking-big-uwm-students-draft-ambitious-concepts.html#g20

An interesting mix of ideas.

Look out UWM, I don't see many people of other colors than white in those pictures...

Those drawings from UWM students looks useful the 4 months out of the year the Bucks aren't playing...

MadBlueEdwards · Post #311 » by **MadBlueEdwards** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:27 pm

Milwaukee Bucks hope to issue RFP for construction manager by year-end...

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2015/11/18/milwaukee-bucks-hope-to-issue-rfp-for-construction.html?ana=e_du_prem&s=article_du&ed=2015-11-18&u=mdd%2F5yHEqHKKDayMSH%2BKEg0bc6adab&t=1447881906

Post #312 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:07 pm

My dream of a fall (2015) ground breaking was never in the cards. Just too much to do beforehand. Glad to see updates. Maybe they will have a dedicated website once ground is broken for regular updates and pics. Hell they should have a 24 hour cam on it

MadBlueEdwards · Post #313 » by **MadBlueEdwards** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:13 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Maybe they will have a dedicated website once ground is broken for regular updates and pics. Hell they should have a 24 hour cam on it

I recently got a new job very close to the arena and plan on taking pictures regularly. I'll post them here if the team doesn't do something like that.

Post #314 » by **humanrefutation** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:15 pm

MadBlueEdwards wrote:Milwaukee Bucks hope to issue RFP for construction manager by year-end...

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2015/11/18/milwaukee-bucks-hope-to-issue-rfp-for-construction.html?ana=e_du_prem&s=article_du&ed=2015-11-18&u=mdd%2F5yHEqHKKDayMSH%2BKEg0bc6adab&t=1447881906

So, I take that to mean they'll actually submit that RFP by Summer 2016?

jtf150 · Post #315 » by **jtf150** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:11 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Yeah somehow they need to make the "beer garden" area a year round place. If it's open air it won't be any good in winter no matter how many heaters they put around the area.

I am sure it will probably be like the Horny Goat Brew Pub.

Post #316 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:23 pm

Bauman balking about tearing down parking structure, If he gets his way the first part of the entertainment district wouldn't open until a year after the new arena opens instead of concurrently.

The Milwaukee Bucks want to demolish a city-owned parking garage on N. 4th St. before opening a new one that would serve the team's future arena — an eight-month gap that is bringing opposition from one Common Council member.

That planned construction schedule would leave Bucks fans, downtown employees and others who use the 1,000-space parking structure, at N. 4th St. and W. Highland Ave., with "literally nowhere to go," said Ald. Robert Bauman, whose district includes downtown.

Bauman spoke at Monday's Plan Commission hearing on the proposal for general zoning approval for the new arena, its parking structure, an entertainment center and other nearby commercial developments planned by the basketball team and its affiliated development group, Head of the Herd LLC.

The commission voted 5-0 to approve the general zoning proposal, which also needs council approval. The general plan is for conceptual uses, covering such aspects as building height ranges. A more detailed plan, coming in early 2016, would need separate council approval before construction begins next spring.

The plan to demolish the current parking structure before the new one is completed is "ludicrous," Bauman said. He said the council could vote against transferring the parking structure to the Bucks.

The council and Mayor Tom Barrett in September approved a $47 million city spending plan for the new arena, part of a $250 million public financing package for the $500 million project.

That city plan includes $35 million for a new 1,243-space parking structure, to be built north of W. Juneau Ave. and east of N. 6th St., in the Park East strip. The N. 4th St. parking structure is to be given to Head of the Herd, which would demolish it and replace it with a privately financed entertainment center with restaurants and taverns.

The Bucks want to begin demolishing the parking structure before the new one opens so the arena and entertainment center, known as the "live block," can open at the same time, said Peter Feigin, Bucks president. The teams plans to have those facilities ready for the 2018-'19 National Basketball Association season.

Bauman said he would oppose zoning approval if that demolition is allowed before the new parking structure opens.

"Frankly, that was never part of the debate up until this point," he said.

Bauman and some Plan Commission members questioned why the Bucks couldn't delay opening the live block, which would include a public plaza, until after the arena opens.

Greg Uhen, one of the project's architects, said waiting until the new parking structure and arena were completed before demolishing the old parking structure would delay opening the live block for about a year.

He said razing the parking structure after the arena was completed would create an inconvenient and possibly unsafe condition for people attending arena events.

Feigin said delaying the live block's construction also would bring a delay in new revenue that project would generate, including property tax revenue for the city.

Post #317 » by **paulpressey25** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:40 pm

Nowhere in that article did it mention that the City of Milwaukee or Baumann mention the City would lose the parking revenue for a year if they tear it down before the new deck is in place.

There are issues of "parking convenience" for Bradley Center patrons but also follow the $$$. 8-)

HaroldinGMinor · Post #318 » by **HaroldinGMinor** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:28 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Nowhere in that article did it mention that the City of Milwaukee or Baumann mention the City would lose the parking revenue for a year if they tear it down before the new deck is in place.

There are issues of "parking convenience" for Bradley Center patrons but also follow the $$$.

And it's a logical concern for the city.

trwi7 · Post #319 » by **trwi7** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:42 am

Too bad we don't have the streetcar yet. Could park anywhere downtown and then take the streetcar to work.

GrandAdmiralDan · Post #320 » by **GrandAdmiralDan** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:36 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Bauman balking about tearing down parking structure, If he gets his way the first part of the entertainment district wouldn't open until a year after the new arena opens instead of concurrently.

That planned construction schedule would leave Bucks fans, downtown employees and others who use the 1,000-space parking structure, at N. 4th St. and W. Highland Ave., with "literally nowhere to go," said Ald. Robert Bauman, whose district includes downtown.

Literally nowhere to go? :lol:

Does he not realize there is another giant parking structure a block away on 6th/5th street?