2018 NBA Draft Thread

Ron Swanson · Post #301 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:43 pm

Kentucky just doesn't have any intriguing bigs this year. I think Gilgeous-Alexander is gonna be a player, and Diallo has an outside shot of being a stud wing. Seen a couple mocks that have Shake Milton going to us at #22 and I don't know what to think of him. He's got a weird release on his shot but it manages to go in a lot (43% 3PT). Sort of like a homeless man's Khris Middleton with his ball-handling ability and profile (6'6, 7'0 wingspan).

LuessiT · Post #302 » by **LuessiT** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:45 pm

emunney wrote:Haven't seen Tulane play at all this year, but Mike Schmitz just did a write-up on this guy, and you have to be intrigued:

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Compares him to RHJ.

I've not gone deep in this draft class yet so I have no idea where to rank him yet, but he's definately interesting. He's shooting 40% from 3 but only on 3.6 attempts per game and has been a sub 30% shooter the years before. To me it seems like a bit of a fluke mixed with some improvement so I'd expect this number to go down - at least slightly. His FT% has been improving steadily though on a solid sample size (50% his first year, 67% the second, 73% right now) which usually is a good indicator of shooting touch, so I'm confident his shot is projectable to the NBA. That said, RHJ was also a 70% FT shooter (currently sitting at 80 %) and still can't shoot the 3. When Frazier sets his feet in catch&shoot situations, the jumper looks pretty though.
He's got long arms, huge hands and good instincts and thus gets a lot of deflections. But he also gambles a little too much and doesn't have that crazy defensive impact on the box score even though averaging 3.7 steals per 40 (and 1.0 blocks). He moves his feet really well and has some lockdown potential, but needs to get stronger or he's going to get bullied by NBA-bodies. Especially if you want him to defend 4's.
There are some similarities between him and RHJ, but they're definately not the same player.

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raysbookclub · Post #303 » by **raysbookclub** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:17 pm

Man, I didn't realize this. I hate Danny Ainge. Wish the Bucks FO were able to stockpile picks like this.

Lakers side note: Under the terms of the Markelle Fultz-Jayson Tatum deal, the Sixers receive the Lakers pick if it falls either at No. 1, or anywhere from No. 6 to No. 30. If Philly nabs L.A.'s pick this season, the Celtics get Sacramento's top-1-protected pick -- GO KINGS! -- next year. Sacramento has some nice young talent, but right now, how many teams stand to be worse than them next season? Imagine if the Sixers end up with the 10th pick in this draft, and Boston selects No. 2 in 2019? Do not trade with Danny Ainge.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22459076/zach-lowe-10-things-like-including-great-nba-tank-race

Post #304 » by **ReasonablySober** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:25 pm

books wrote:Man, I didn't realize this. I hate Danny Ainge. Wish the Bucks FO were able to stockpile picks like this.

Lakers side note: Under the terms of the Markelle Fultz-Jayson Tatum deal, the Sixers receive the Lakers pick if it falls either at No. 1, or anywhere from No. 6 to No. 30. If Philly nabs L.A.'s pick this season, the Celtics get Sacramento's top-1-protected pick -- GO KINGS! -- next year. Sacramento has some nice young talent, but right now, how many teams stand to be worse than them next season? Imagine if the Sixers end up with the 10th pick in this draft, and Boston selects No. 2 in 2019? Do not trade with Danny Ainge.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22459076/zach-lowe-10-things-like-including-great-nba-tank-race

Go Lakers.

emunney · Post #305 » by **emunney** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:26 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
books wrote:Man, I didn't realize this. I hate Danny Ainge. Wish the Bucks FO were able to stockpile picks like this.

Lakers side note: Under the terms of the Markelle Fultz-Jayson Tatum deal, the Sixers receive the Lakers pick if it falls either at No. 1, or anywhere from No. 6 to No. 30. If Philly nabs L.A.'s pick this season, the Celtics get Sacramento's top-1-protected pick -- GO KINGS! -- next year. Sacramento has some nice young talent, but right now, how many teams stand to be worse than them next season? Imagine if the Sixers end up with the 10th pick in this draft, and Boston selects No. 2 in 2019? Do not trade with Danny Ainge.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22459076/zach-lowe-10-things-like-including-great-nba-tank-race

Go Lakers.

Need them to make a playoff run real quick.

econniption · Post #306 » by **econniption** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:56 pm

books wrote:Man, I didn't realize this. I hate Danny Ainge. Wish the Bucks FO were able to stockpile picks like this.

Lakers side note: Under the terms of the Markelle Fultz-Jayson Tatum deal, the Sixers receive the Lakers pick if it falls either at No. 1, or anywhere from No. 6 to No. 30. If Philly nabs L.A.'s pick this season, the Celtics get Sacramento's top-1-protected pick -- GO KINGS! -- next year. Sacramento has some nice young talent, but right now, how many teams stand to be worse than them next season? Imagine if the Sixers end up with the 10th pick in this draft, and Boston selects No. 2 in 2019? Do not trade with Danny Ainge.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22459076/zach-lowe-10-things-like-including-great-nba-tank-race

Ainge/Hinkie playing 3-D chess. Hammond/Horst playing tic-tac-toe.

Ron Swanson · Post #307 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:57 pm

Hinkie was great at stockpiling assets. Ainge is great at stockpiling assets AND turning them into tangible value.

TD75 · Post #308 » by **TD75** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:51 am

Ron Swanson wrote:Hinkie was great at stockpiling assets. Ainge is great at stockpiling assets AND turning them into tangible value.

Ainge also benefits from Brad's system that takes average role players and make them seem bargains.

Crowder and IT were considered an OKish trade for Kyrie this summer, considering Kyrie gave the Cavs an ultimatum to be traded. Look at them now.

I would also bet that a few of the young Celtics players are looking better than they really are playing under Brad Stevens making their picks even more valuable.

Matches Malone · Post #309 » by **Matches Malone** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:25 pm

Can anybody with Insider, post Givony's mock, please?

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Post #310 » by **jr lucosa** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:36 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Seen a couple mocks that have Shake Milton going to us at #22 and I don't know what to think of him. He's got a weird release on his shot but it manages to go in a lot (43% 3PT). Sort of like a homeless man's Khris Middleton with his ball-handling ability and profile (6'6, 7'0 wingspan).

I watched him some last year leading up to the draft and seems to have the same weaknesses. Didn't bulk up much, struggles to finish through contact even at college level, not quick enough to blow by guys.

That said, he's got a nice handle and vision for his size, sort of a funky release but good %s from 3 3rd year in a row on high volume.

mlloyd10 · Post #311 » by **mlloyd10** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:25 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Can anybody with Insider, post Givony's mock, please?

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Has the Bucks selecting Anfernee Simons

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2017/11/19/16674672/anfernee-simons-nba-draft-2018-recruiting-louisville-florida

M-C-G · Post #312 » by **M-C-G** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:34 pm

Sign me up for an athletic physical center or a guard that can shoot off the dribble, pretty much fine with either direction.

Ron Swanson · Post #313 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:39 pm

Hell yes on Anfernee Simons. If they declare him eligible I doubt he'll be around where we're picking though (18-25).

Licensed to Il · Post #314 » by **Licensed to Il** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:42 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Hell yes on Anfernee Simons. If they declare him eligible I doubt he'll be around where we're picking though (18-25).

You really need to change your sig picture to a shot from the "Parks and Rec" episode where Ron coached a youth team and developed "the pyramid of success."

emunney · Post #315 » by **emunney** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:45 pm

My favorite under the radar big. Don't understand why he's under the radar. Spectacular finisher and rim defender.

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Ron Swanson · Post #316 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:45 pm

Villanoeyebrows wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Hell yes on Anfernee Simons. If they declare him eligible I doubt he'll be around where we're picking though (18-25).

You really need to change your sig picture to a shot from the "Parks and Rec" episode where Ron coached a youth team and developed "the pyramid of success."

I don't know what the first block of the pyramid would be, but I know it's not "trade for Greivis Vasquez".

tski1972 · Post #317 » by **tski1972** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:51 pm

M-C-G wrote:Sign me up for an athletic physical center or a guard that can shoot off the dribble, pretty much fine with either direction.

would 20-24 be too early to go after Landry Shamet?

Tfence92 · Post #318 » by **Tfence92** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:57 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Hinkie was great at stockpiling assets. Ainge is great at stockpiling assets AND turning them into tangible value.

Other than trading for Kyrie, what exactly has he done with all those assets...?

Post #319 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:59 pm

Tfence92 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Hinkie was great at stockpiling assets. Ainge is great at stockpiling assets AND turning them into tangible value.

Other than trading for Kyrie, what exactly has he done with all those assets...?

Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum seem like good players.

Tfence92 · Post #320 » by **Tfence92** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:02 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
Tfence92 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Hinkie was great at stockpiling assets. Ainge is great at stockpiling assets AND turning them into tangible value.

Other than trading for Kyrie, what exactly has he done with all those assets...?

Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum seem like good players.

They both look very good, and could go on to be all stars, but if you're comparing him and Hinkie using assets, I don't think you can really use the draft.

I mean, sure, they didn't **** up back to back top 3 picks; is that truly an amazing accomplishment?

Who do you think will be the #1 overall pick?