ATL: 2018 Trade Deadline Edition - Mirotic to the Pels

[ReginaldDwight]

Parker and Thon for DeAndre and Lou is happening. Jabari returning just prior to trade deadline and a huge puff piece about how he is better than ever in the Journal. Jabari is getting traded.

doubt it, clippers dont want that cap hold man.

Can’t they just trade him or renounce if they are landing LeBron?

i guess but they really want first round picks i think, id imagine the hope is to hedge with picks.

[Dellyhas2gfs]

Bucks get: Jordan
Clippers get: George, Henson
Thunder get: Jabari, Williams

[Plossum]

About zero chance the Thunder are trading George.

[Balls2TheWalls]

I'm no longer of the opinion that DJ will sign here after we fired Kidd and I think I would rather see what Jabari is all about instead of trading completely for ostensible expirings without being able to dump Delly or Telly.

[JustinCredible]

I'm no longer of the opinion that DJ will sign here after we fired Kidd and I think I would rather see what Jabari is all about instead of trading completely for ostensible expirings without being able to dump Delly or Telly.

And if Jabari is great the rest of this year what do you do? Are you willing to risk Giannis’ years on Jabari’s knee? It’s one thing for Jabari to miss seasons on a rookie contract. For this to happen while he is eating up $20+ million of our cap space....absolutely would end our chances.

[BroncoBuck]

I'm no longer of the opinion that DJ will sign here after we fired Kidd and I think I would rather see what Jabari is all about instead of trading completely for ostensible expirings without being able to dump Delly or Telly.

And if Jabari is great the rest of this year what do you do? Are you willing to risk Giannis’ years on Jabari’s knee? It’s one thing for Jabari to miss seasons on a rookie contract. For this to happen while he is eating up $20+ million of our cap space....absolutely would end our chances.

Someone has to offer him $20+ million to even worry about that. There is no foregone conclusion he is getting the max. For all we know he will be playing on his $8 million qualifying offer next season.

[M-C-G]

I'm no longer of the opinion that DJ will sign here after we fired Kidd and I think I would rather see what Jabari is all about instead of trading completely for ostensible expirings without being able to dump Delly or Telly.

And if Jabari is great the rest of this year what do you do? Are you willing to risk Giannis’ years on Jabari’s knee? It’s one thing for Jabari to miss seasons on a rookie contract. For this to happen while he is eating up $20+ million of our cap space....absolutely would end our chances.

I'm not saying it isn't a concern but this "going to sink the franchise" talk is lunacy;
GS still wins a title without 21M in Andre and Livingston
HOU still wins 50 games without 20M of Ryan Anderson
BOS still is going to win 50 games without 30M of Gordon Hayward
CLE is probably still going to win the east paying Shum, JR, TT and Frye a combined 46M
MKE is probably still going to win 46 games paying Delly, Mirza, Snell, Henson 42M and whiffing on their last three 1st round draft picks

Jabari getting hurt again would be bad, very bad, but trying to push that we would be wasting the Giannis years is a joke. Just don't do anymore Delly, Snelly, Telly deals ever again and you can at least stomach the risk.

[Jimmmycrackcorn]

Hypothetical question here.....wondering what everyone's tale on this would be:

Had we not traded for Bledsoe, and the Clippers call asking the Bucks to give up Monroe, Jabari, and the Bucks 2018 1st and 2nd for Blake.....would you pull the trigger?


I wouldn't.....but I'm wondering how most on this forum feel about such a hypothetical.

[Matches Malone]

Hypothetical question here.....wondering what everyone's tale on this would be:

Had we not traded for Bledsoe, and the Clippers call asking the Bucks to give up Monroe, Jabari, and the Bucks 2018 1st and 2nd for Blake.....would you pull the trigger?


I wouldn't.....but I'm wondering how most on this forum feel about such a hypothetical.

I'd consider it in the hopes that having two all-stars would help in recruiting a third. But looking at that Griffin contract makes my butt hole pucker.

[Jimmmycrackcorn]

Hypothetical question here.....wondering what everyone's tale on this would be:

Had we not traded for Bledsoe, and the Clippers call asking the Bucks to give up Monroe, Jabari, and the Bucks 2018 1st and 2nd for Blake.....would you pull the trigger?


I wouldn't.....but I'm wondering how most on this forum feel about such a hypothetical.

I'd consider it in the hopes that having two all-stars would help in recruiting a third. But looking at that Griffin contract makes my butt hole pucker.

that contract is an absolute killer...that supermax deal is eye-popping

yet on the other hand, isn't a healthy Blake everything you want Jabari to be?

tough call......

[mlloyd10]

Hypothetical question here.....wondering what everyone's tale on this would be:

Had we not traded for Bledsoe, and the Clippers call asking the Bucks to give up Monroe, Jabari, and the Bucks 2018 1st and 2nd for Blake.....would you pull the trigger?


I wouldn't.....but I'm wondering how most on this forum feel about such a hypothetical.

I'd consider it in the hopes that having two all-stars would help in recruiting a third. But looking at that Griffin contract makes my butt hole pucker.

that contract is an absolute killer...that supermax deal is eye-popping

yet on the other hand, isn't a healthy Blake everything you want Jabari to be?

Yeah, but Parker will still cost $10mil per year cheaper.
tough call......

[M-C-G]

Hypothetical question here.....wondering what everyone's tale on this would be:

Had we not traded for Bledsoe, and the Clippers call asking the Bucks to give up Monroe, Jabari, and the Bucks 2018 1st and 2nd for Blake.....would you pull the trigger?


I wouldn't.....but I'm wondering how most on this forum feel about such a hypothetical.

I'd consider it in the hopes that having two all-stars would help in recruiting a third. But looking at that Griffin contract makes my butt hole pucker.

that contract is an absolute killer...that supermax deal is eye-popping

yet on the other hand, isn't a healthy Blake everything you want Jabari to be?

tough call......

Dude, every time I watch Blake his body seems to be more and more of a shell of it what it was. He doesn't stay healthy and he is owed a ton, which is why he was just traded for fifty cents on the dollar. If he could stay healthy or didn't have that contract or hadn't lost a few steps, he never would have moved in that deal IMO

[WeekapaugGroove]

Blakes contract is eye popping big but then you look around the league and there's probably 15 teams with 30-40M worth of completely worthless contracts on their roster so I guess I'd rather have an overpaid Blake than 2 or 3 mediocre to worthless guys equaling that same amount.

I don't love the trade for Detroit but I also don't hate it. I think the championship or bust mindset is a little bit over played these days. Hell the cold reality of the Warriors era is that very few teams really have a legit chance. Because of this we see more teams than ever not trying and only worried about a draft pick. But the more teams that do this the less effective this strategy becomes. It's easy to point at like 15 or 20 teams and say they have no shot they might as well tank but the simple math of that is even if 10 teams do it someone picks 10th. It's an entertainment business and if a team like the Pistons who just built an arena want to try to entertain their fans then I can't kill them for it. I don't even think they are drawing dead after this; I'm sure they will give the Blake and Drummond front line a look but if it isn't working they potentially could deal Drummond this summer and if they make a savvy trade maybe they can put an interesting team around Blake.

[raferfenix]

I think it’s bad for the league that the Clippers gave Blake such a hard sell about being with them his whole career only to trade him a matter of months later.

Bodes ill for any player to hold even a semblance of loyalty to a franchise.

[Ron Swanson]

Yeah, would rather spend a bunch of salary on an actual difference maker like Blake rather than spending that same money on any combination of Tobes, Boban, and Bradley, or really any combination of role players on that roster. The problem is that Detroit seems like they're trying to build the poor man's Pelicans East. Complete with their own overpaid/overrated PG in Reggie Jackson.

And their young prospects outside of Kennard don't look to be anything special (Stanley Johnson) or really even NBA players (Ellenson). I don't think that Drummond has another leap in him, so whatever we see over the next 1.5 seasons with that team is likely what their ceiling is. I'd try hard to move Jackson and get an actual PG, or just let Ish Smith start.

[Matches Malone]

Heavy eye roll

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[Badgerlander]

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[Ron Swanson]

Wow. "Clean up" just sounds like damage control. A procedure with a 6-week recovery at this point in the season? Wizards could legitimately miss the playoffs. This had to have been something serious, or else they would have just waited till the offseason.

[raferfenix]

So do the Wizards all out tank now or what?

Gortat could be a solid get for us on the cheap.

[Ron Swanson]

They're tied with us for 5th in the Eastern Conference. No way they're tanking.