Bucks Bogdan Bogdanovic Boondoggle

mubucks00 · Post #3021 » by **mubucks00** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:41 pm

What do we have here?

slos · Post #3022 » by **slos** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:48 pm

Hawks have still 27 mil in cap space and they seem all in Bogdan, but I really doubt if they are willing to give up anything of value to get him. I mean Sacramento would ask at least for Huerter or a future 1st. Lakers still have KCP to work a double s/t but they don't have more money to offer to Bogdan or better assets for Sacramento (Donte>>>Kuzma).

It would be a huge surprise at this point for Horst to pull this off, but he still has 16 mil available for Bogdan. Honestly Jrue/Bogdan/Midds/Giannis/Brook with a bench of Augustin, Portis and rookies is better than any other deeper team we can have.

Rstuedes24 · Post #3023 » by **Rstuedes24** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:51 pm

slos wrote:Hawks have still 27 mil in cap space and they seem all in Bogdan, but I really doubt if they are willing to give up anything of value to get him. I mean Sacramento would ask at least for Huerter or a future 1st. Lakers still have KCP to work a double s/t but they don't have more money to offer to Bogdan or better assets for Sacramento (Donte>>>Kuzma).

It would be a huge surprise at this point for Horst to pull this off, but he still has 16 mil available for Bogdan. Honestly Jrue/Bogdan/Midds/Giannis/Brook with a bench of Augustin, Portis and rookies is better than any other deeper team we can have.

This is the best plan. Instead of going like 12 deep all the time with mostly vets, get a super solid top 8 or so and some rookies that we can audition and see if any hit.

jimmybones · Post #3024 » by **jimmybones** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:18 pm

Guys, stop making me thing there's still a sliver of hope for this. The idea was probably presented via Giannis and our cap expert rightfully pursued it and found a deal and then it blew up, regardless of who is at fault. And now there's no way Horst is capable of pulling off this dynamic of a move with this many moving parts.

Too busy securing that 3rd year for Pat....*laughs*.......*cries*

buckboy · Post #3025 » by **buckboy** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:22 pm

slos wrote:Hawks have still 27 mil in cap space and they seem all in Bogdan, but I really doubt if they are willing to give up anything of value to get him. I mean Sacramento would ask at least for Huerter or a future 1st. Lakers still have KCP to work a double s/t but they don't have more money to offer to Bogdan or better assets for Sacramento (Donte>>>Kuzma).

It would be a huge surprise at this point for Horst to pull this off, but he still has 16 mil available for Bogdan. Honestly Jrue/Bogdan/Midds/Giannis/Brook with a bench of Augustin, Portis and rookies is better than any other deeper team we can have.

How the hell does he have 16M left?

James1980 · Post #3026 » by **James1980** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:35 pm

Is it 16 mil with DDV, DJ, and Pat's new deal?

mke_design · Post #3027 » by **mke_design** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:37 pm

buckboy wrote:
slos wrote:Hawks have still 27 mil in cap space and they seem all in Bogdan, but I really doubt if they are willing to give up anything of value to get him. I mean Sacramento would ask at least for Huerter or a future 1st. Lakers still have KCP to work a double s/t but they don't have more money to offer to Bogdan or better assets for Sacramento (Donte>>>Kuzma).

It would be a huge surprise at this point for Horst to pull this off, but he still has 16 mil available for Bogdan. Honestly Jrue/Bogdan/Midds/Giannis/Brook with a bench of Augustin, Portis and rookies is better than any other deeper team we can have.

How the hell does he have 16M left?

if we clear pat, donte, and DJ we actually have about 17.5

MikeIsGood · Post #3028 » by **MikeIsGood** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:40 pm

I'm starting to get my hopes up that we're getting Bogs afterall.

Bucks fandom is a rollercoaster of emotion. I'm sure the cart is yet to come flying off the tracks again.

buckboy · Post #3029 » by **buckboy** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:56 pm

mke_design wrote:
buckboy wrote:
slos wrote:Hawks have still 27 mil in cap space and they seem all in Bogdan, but I really doubt if they are willing to give up anything of value to get him. I mean Sacramento would ask at least for Huerter or a future 1st. Lakers still have KCP to work a double s/t but they don't have more money to offer to Bogdan or better assets for Sacramento (Donte>>>Kuzma).

It would be a huge surprise at this point for Horst to pull this off, but he still has 16 mil available for Bogdan. Honestly Jrue/Bogdan/Midds/Giannis/Brook with a bench of Augustin, Portis and rookies is better than any other deeper team we can have.

How the hell does he have 16M left?

if we clear pat, donte, and DJ we actually have about 17.5

Those guys make 13. Please explain the 17.5 number.

Bus or bust · Post #3030 » by **Bus or bust** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:01 pm

buckboy wrote:
mke_design wrote:
buckboy wrote:
How the hell does he have 16M left?

if we clear pat, donte, and DJ we actually have about 17.5

Those guys make 13. Please explain the 17.5 number.

That comes from the cap space we have but I think it's just shy of 17 unless the Leuer dead cap gets removed.

StickeeFingaz · Post #3031 » by **StickeeFingaz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:02 pm

I don't know why I do this to myself. Reports are still saying it's likely Bogdan signs an offer sheet for 4/72, that's 18/yr.

What's the max we can offer through a sign & trade? I've seen 16.4 and then 17.5 referenced above. Would he really prefer playing in Atlanta for an additional 1.6 mil per year?

buckboy · Post #3032 » by **buckboy** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:06 pm

Bus or bust wrote:
buckboy wrote:
mke_design wrote:
if we clear pat, donte, and DJ we actually have about 17.5

Those guys make 13. Please explain the 17.5 number.

That comes from the cap space we have but I think it's just shy of 17 unless the Leuer dead cap gets removed.

Thanks. I don't see how we could possibly have cap space.

raferfenix · Post #3033 » by **raferfenix** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:07 pm

Anything new here?

Read on Twitter

StickeeFingaz · Post #3034 » by **StickeeFingaz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:09 pm

raferfenix wrote:Anything new here?

Read on Twitter

Just reporting that Hawks still believe they're the favorite to sign Bogdan for 4/72.

drone3 · Post #3035 » by **drone3** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:11 pm

We're not getting Bogdan. Patty was signed because he is close with Gianiss and a high character guy. Horst is so overwhelmed he forgot the calculator.

Ron Swanson · Post #3036 » by **Ron Swanson** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:12 pm

It's not just about would he rather play for the Hawks for that extra $1-2 million, but also the Kings. Sacramento holds the leverage here, which seems to be kind of lost in this whole situation. Obviously then the issue becomes if a team like the Lakers swoops in and if the Kings prefer a package centered around Kuzma over Donte.

WRau1 · Post #3037 » by **WRau1** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:16 pm

If the numbers are true, Bucks can also offer 4yrs at $17.5 per. That's pretty close.

drone3 · Post #3038 » by **drone3** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:19 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:It's not just about would he rather play for the Hawks for that extra $1-2 million, but also the Kings. Sacramento holds the leverage here, which seems to be kind of lost in this whole situation. Obviously then the issue becomes if a team like the Lakers swoops in and if the Kings prefer a package centered around Kuzma over Donte.

For the record Nwora is supposed to be a better version of Kuzma

greekbuck34 · Post #3039 » by **greekbuck34** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:24 pm

We can't lose Bogdan to the Hawks for the same money.
WE JUST CAN'T.

skones · Post #3040 » by **skones** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:53 pm

buckboy wrote:
Bus or bust wrote:
buckboy wrote:
Those guys make 13. Please explain the 17.5 number.

That comes from the cap space we have but I think it's just shy of 17 unless the Leuer dead cap gets removed.

Thanks. I don't see how we could possibly have cap space.

We don't have cap space. It's the amount of salary we can bring back with the aforementioned S&T package for Bogdanovic, which isn't happening and people need to move on.