Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[mlloyd10]

Knight for Monroe

I would not be willing to give up Knight for nothing. Now that is bad asset management.

WHAT?

[MiltownHawkeye]

Knight for Monroe

I would not be willing to give up Knight for nothing. Now that is bad asset management.

WHAT?

Monroe is a UFA after the season.

[Wisky4life]

From the game yesterday, my only candidates for trade are Zaza, Ersan, and potentially Dudley and OJ (Right Price). I think everything else should remained in-tacked and then resigned next year. (Marshall, Middleton, Knight) For the right price, you know, Knight Obv

[mcfromage]

Thoughts on Milwaukee's success? Can they make noise in the playoffs? Any possible short term deals in their future to solidify their playoff hopes?
Chad Ford
(1:15 PM)


I think their depth has kept them very competitive after losing Jabari. And Jason Kidd has obviously done a great job. For as much criticism as John Hammond has received, he's done a really amazing job in Milwaukee setting this team up for a long run. I know, in some ways, it wasn't intentional because his old owner wanted to win now. But all it takes in one home run in the draft (Giannis) and a few good trades and I feel like the Bucks are easier to project as being a contender than other teams at the top of the lottery last year like Philadelphia and Orlando. This year, their best scenario is actually to probably fall out of the playoffs and pick up another lottery pick. But given how weak the East is right now, I'm not sure this is possible.

[M-C-G]

Ok, going off something from the ATL thread...If GS needs to free up some cash, what about a deal something like;

GS gets a TPE from MKE, gives up Barnes, Livingston

MKE gets Kanter, Livingston, gives up TPE, Clipper 1st, +?

UTH get Barnes, Clippers 1st, +? for Kanter

GS frees up cash ( I haven't looked to see how many rotational minutes those guys have, maybe you add Bayless)

UTH gets some pieces for Kanter, who I am guessing will not be resigning.

MKE gets a Center and guard that would fit well around Knight. Bucks can make a decision on Knight in the off season, and if they bring back Marshall, Middleton, would give them a good starting base. They could also decide to package Henson + 1st round pick to either move up or go after a guy they really want. This trade would be tricky with the TPE, but I am more looking at the general pieces involved.

PG: Draft pick, Knight? Marshall, Bayless?
SG: Middleton, Mayo, Livingston
SF: Giannis, Inglis
PF: Parker, Ersan
C : Kanter, ZaZa, Henson, Sanders?

[LUKE23]

That team murders offensively but Parker/Kanter is about as bad as you can configure for a frontcourt defensive pairing.

[mlloyd10]

Ok, going off something from the ATL thread...If GS needs to free up some cash, what about a deal something like;

GS gets a TPE from MKE, gives up Barnes, Livingston

MKE gets Kanter, Livingston, gives up TPE, Clipper 1st, +?

UTH get Barnes, Clippers 1st, +? for Kanter

GS frees up cash ( I haven't looked to see how many rotational minutes those guys have, maybe you add Bayless)

UTH gets some pieces for Kanter, who I am guessing will not be resigning.

MKE gets a Center and guard that would fit well around Knight. Bucks can make a decision on Knight in the off season, and if they bring back Marshall, Middleton, would give them a good starting base. They could also decide to package Henson + 1st round pick to either move up or go after a guy they really want. This trade would be tricky with the TPE, but I am more looking at the general pieces involved.

PG: Draft pick, Knight? Marshall, Bayless?
SG: Middleton, Mayo, Livingston
SF: Giannis, Inglis
PF: Parker, Ersan
C : Kanter, ZaZa, Henson, Sanders?

Why does GS need to free up cash?

[emunney]

Ok, going off something from the ATL thread...If GS needs to free up some cash, what about a deal something like;

GS gets a TPE from MKE, gives up Barnes, Livingston

MKE gets Kanter, Livingston, gives up TPE, Clipper 1st, +?

UTH get Barnes, Clippers 1st, +? for Kanter

GS frees up cash ( I haven't looked to see how many rotational minutes those guys have, maybe you add Bayless)

UTH gets some pieces for Kanter, who I am guessing will not be resigning.

MKE gets a Center and guard that would fit well around Knight. Bucks can make a decision on Knight in the off season, and if they bring back Marshall, Middleton, would give them a good starting base. They could also decide to package Henson + 1st round pick to either move up or go after a guy they really want. This trade would be tricky with the TPE, but I am more looking at the general pieces involved.

PG: Draft pick, Knight? Marshall, Bayless?
SG: Middleton, Mayo, Livingston
SF: Giannis, Inglis
PF: Parker, Ersan
C : Kanter, ZaZa, Henson, Sanders?

Why does GS need to free up cash?

To keep Green without running up an enormous tax bill next year. IMO they would be much more likely to attach multiple picks to clear one year of Lee than drop Barnes and Livingston purely for salary relief (which I can't imagine they would even consider).

[mlloyd10]

Bucks get: Lee/future 1st
Warriors get: Burke/Kanter
Jazz get: Ilyasova/Barnes

[WeekapaugGroove]

I actually think GS might just say **** it and pay the tax next year. Especially if they win it all or come close this year.

If they do decide to cut some cost Lee might be more tradable this summer than people think. I actually think he's become slightly under rated. Sure he's expensive and doesn't play d but he is a talented offensive player who rebounds well. Wouldn't shock me if a team like NY or LA would take him as a 1 year salary place holder this summer if they strike out on their top FAs. Both teams could be set to lose their 2016 1st rounders so they will have incentive to not be terrible and by taking Lee they will preserve cap space to make a run at Durrant in 2016.

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[Giannis Parker]

That team murders offensively but Parker/Kanter is about as bad as you can configure for a frontcourt defensive pairing.

Being completely real here though, what player on our team really distills fear in the enemy defensively? Kidd is a firm believer in team defense, which he is right believing in, but most importantly, he has his team buying into the scheme.

[mlloyd10]

That team murders offensively but Parker/Kanter is about as bad as you can configure for a frontcourt defensive pairing.

Being completely real here though, what player on our team really distills fear in the enemy defensively? Kidd is a firm believer in team defense, which he is right believing in, but most importantly, he has his team buying into the scheme.

Sanders

[Giannis Parker]

That team murders offensively but Parker/Kanter is about as bad as you can configure for a frontcourt defensive pairing.

Being completely real here though, what player on our team really distills fear in the enemy defensively? Kidd is a firm believer in team defense, which he is right believing in, but most importantly, he has his team buying into the scheme.

Sanders

You really think a suspended Sanders has teams worried about us defensively hey? Let alone the fact that Sanders will never play another game in a Bucks jersey lol.

[KidA24]

That team murders offensively but Parker/Kanter is about as bad as you can configure for a frontcourt defensive pairing.

Being completely real here though, what player on our team really distills fear in the enemy defensively? Kidd is a firm believer in team defense, which he is right believing in, but most importantly, he has his team buying into the scheme.

Giannis is an amazing 1v1 defender. He is still learning the team defensive game, but his length consistently allows him to sag off of players while preventing them from shooting jumpshots.

What has made the team solid defensively is having guys 1-4 who switch constantly, especially when the shot clock is low. It works great when teams can't strategize against it, but come playoff time, it will be exploited.

[mlloyd10]

Being completely real here though, what player on our team really distills fear in the enemy defensively? Kidd is a firm believer in team defense, which he is right believing in, but most importantly, he has his team buying into the scheme.

Sanders

You really think a suspended Sanders has teams worried about us defensively hey? Let alone the fact that Sanders will never play another game in a Bucks jersey lol.

You ask what player on the team and I answered.

[Giannis Parker]

Sanders

You really think a suspended Sanders has teams worried about us defensively hey? Let alone the fact that Sanders will never play another game in a Bucks jersey lol.

You ask what player on the team and I answered.

I guess that is the difference, Sanders in my eyes is not on the team.

[skones]

Not sure if he's been mentioned yet, but Koufos might be a nice target for us. Seems like he may be a good fit with what we have.

[raferfenix]

Curious whether the Bucks could / would trade ZaZa for Koufos.

Grizzlies probably would prefer Henson, especially if they think there is any chance Gasol walks. But they also could see Pachulia as a better fit for winning a championship this season, and further could appreciate his contract being locked in at a fair rate.

[M-C-G]

Curious whether the Bucks could / would trade ZaZa for Koufos.

Grizzlies probably would prefer Henson, especially if they think there is any chance Gasol walks. But they also could see Pachulia as a better fit for winning a championship this season, and further could appreciate his contract being locked in at a fair rate.

Pretty sure Koufos is unrestricted...so I wouldn't trade anything for him, and let's not KIDD ourselves, ZaZa isn't going anywhere.

[skones]

Curious whether the Bucks could / would trade ZaZa for Koufos.

Grizzlies probably would prefer Henson, especially if they think there is any chance Gasol walks. But they also could see Pachulia as a better fit for winning a championship this season, and further could appreciate his contract being locked in at a fair rate.

Pretty sure Koufos is unrestricted...so I wouldn't trade anything for him, and let's not KIDD ourselves, ZaZa isn't going anywhere.

I think the Grizzlies are at an impasse. Koufos plays 15 minutes a night, and produces. While Zaza is a step back defensively, he's a step up offensively, and allows for them to have a suitable backup center to Gasol for 5.2 million for next season. Anybody at Zaza's level will likely cost more, thus allowing them to address other needs on their squad without spending a significant amount of money on a backup.

On the flip side, Koufos will be looking for more minutes in the future. We can offer that. Giving him that here for the last 30 odd games of the season could pay dividends as far as it comes to him resigning. I wonder if throwing a second or two in with Zaza would give the deal legs.