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Post#321 » by hege53190 » Sat May 25, 2019 3:00 pm

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buckboy wrote:The wider the gap between critic and audience score, the better the movie.


The Last Jedi, Hulk, Antz, King Kong, The War of the Worlds and SpyKids have some of the biggest gaps of all-time. Critics loved those movies. Audiences hated them.

Who is right?

For some reason I don't think any of those were to smart for general audiences.


Never saw it, like, like, like, like, never saw it.

These are the criteria I would expect to fit my needs.


You agree with the 93% fresh rating for Antz? 84%for King Kong? 75% for War of the Worlds (Tom Cruise)?

The Wider the gap the better the movie is what you said. These 6 movies are on your Mount Rushmore of Cinema?

Just to let you know. Spoiler alert. Hulk 2003 sucked.
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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#322 » by buckboy » Sat May 25, 2019 4:44 pm

hege53190 wrote:
buckboy wrote:
hege53190 wrote:
The Last Jedi, Hulk, Antz, King Kong, The War of the Worlds and SpyKids have some of the biggest gaps of all-time. Critics loved those movies. Audiences hated them.

Who is right?

For some reason I don't think any of those were to smart for general audiences.


Never saw it, like, like, like, like, never saw it.

These are the criteria I would expect to fit my needs.


You agree with the 93% fresh rating for Antz? 84%for King Kong? 75% for War of the Worlds (Tom Cruise)?

The Wider the gap the better the movie is what you said. These 6 movies are on your Mount Rushmore of Cinema?

Just to let you know. Spoiler alert. Hulk 2003 sucked.


I thought Antz was good, yes. And I liked War of the Worlds quite a bit too. Is that the Ed Norton hulk?

Mount Rushmore, no. Enjoyable? Yeah.

Edit: Also, this is a rule of thumb, not some hardfast rule. My main point is that for me, the public's opinion is garbage compared to critics' opinions. Those tend to be the movies I enjoy.
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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#323 » by Mags FTW » Sat May 25, 2019 4:48 pm

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buckboy wrote:
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The Last Jedi, Hulk, Antz, King Kong, The War of the Worlds and SpyKids have some of the biggest gaps of all-time. Critics loved those movies. Audiences hated them.

Who is right?

For some reason I don't think any of those were to smart for general audiences.


Never saw it, like, like, like, like, never saw it.

These are the criteria I would expect to fit my needs.


You agree with the 93% fresh rating for Antz? 84%for King Kong? 75% for War of the Worlds (Tom Cruise)?

The Wider the gap the better the movie is what you said. These 6 movies are on your Mount Rushmore of Cinema?

Just to let you know. Spoiler alert. Hulk 2003 sucked.

But it was directed by Ang Lee!!!
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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#324 » by FrieAaron » Sat May 25, 2019 5:39 pm

hege53190 wrote:You agree with the 93% fresh rating for Antz? 84%for King Kong? 75% for War of the Worlds (Tom Cruise)?


This is a meaningless question. A 93% on RT doesn't mean it's a 93/100, but a lot of people treat it as that and advertisers are more than happy to ignore people's ignorance on this point. If you rate a movie 6/10 then you could technically "agree" with a 93% tomatometer. "Antz" has an average rating of 7.65/10.
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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#325 » by hege53190 » Sat May 25, 2019 6:43 pm

buckboy wrote:
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Never saw it, like, like, like, like, never saw it.

These are the criteria I would expect to fit my needs.


You agree with the 93% fresh rating for Antz? 84%for King Kong? 75% for War of the Worlds (Tom Cruise)?

The Wider the gap the better the movie is what you said. These 6 movies are on your Mount Rushmore of Cinema?

Just to let you know. Spoiler alert. Hulk 2003 sucked.


I thought Antz was good, yes. And I liked War of the Worlds quite a bit too. Is that the Ed Norton hulk?

Mount Rushmore, no. Enjoyable? Yeah.

Edit: Also, this is a rule of thumb, not some hardfast rule. My main point is that for me, the public's opinion is garbage compared to critics' opinions. Those tend to be the movies I enjoy.


"The bigger the gap the better the movie" That would technically mean that the Biggest gaps are the best movies in your opinion.

If you haven't seen Hulk 2003 you should really watch it. The critics say it is great. Seriously watch it. It won't be a waste of 2 hours of your life at all.
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Post#326 » by Mags FTW » Sat May 25, 2019 10:25 pm

War of the Worlds was good. Many people didn't like it because:

A) For a summer blockbuster named "War of the Worlds" with Cruise and Spielberg, people expected more 'splosions.
B) They didn't like 1/4 of the movie taking place in a basement with a creepy Tim Robbins.
C) They didn't like the aliens dying from something they would've died from anyway no matter what the humans did.

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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#327 » by buckboy » Sun May 26, 2019 12:01 am

hege53190 wrote:
buckboy wrote:
hege53190 wrote:
You agree with the 93% fresh rating for Antz? 84%for King Kong? 75% for War of the Worlds (Tom Cruise)?

The Wider the gap the better the movie is what you said. These 6 movies are on your Mount Rushmore of Cinema?

Just to let you know. Spoiler alert. Hulk 2003 sucked.


I thought Antz was good, yes. And I liked War of the Worlds quite a bit too. Is that the Ed Norton hulk?

Mount Rushmore, no. Enjoyable? Yeah.

Edit: Also, this is a rule of thumb, not some hardfast rule. My main point is that for me, the public's opinion is garbage compared to critics' opinions. Those tend to be the movies I enjoy.


"The bigger the gap the better the movie" That would technically mean that the Biggest gaps are the best movies in your opinion.

If you haven't seen Hulk 2003 you should really watch it. The critics say it is great. Seriously watch it. It won't be a waste of 2 hours of your life at all.


Ok.

You're awfully upset about this.

You saw my qualifier about hardfast rules right?
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Post#328 » by Iheartfootball » Mon May 27, 2019 12:07 am

Anyone see ‘Prospect’ with Sophie Thatcher and Pedro Pascal? Just finished it. Hero’s journey. Great morality tale. Kind of sci-fi Deadwood dialogue. .99 on iTunes right now. 3.8364/4 from me.
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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#329 » by hege53190 » Mon May 27, 2019 2:39 pm

buckboy wrote:
hege53190 wrote:
buckboy wrote:
I thought Antz was good, yes. And I liked War of the Worlds quite a bit too. Is that the Ed Norton hulk?

Mount Rushmore, no. Enjoyable? Yeah.

Edit: Also, this is a rule of thumb, not some hardfast rule. My main point is that for me, the public's opinion is garbage compared to critics' opinions. Those tend to be the movies I enjoy.


"The bigger the gap the better the movie" That would technically mean that the Biggest gaps are the best movies in your opinion.

If you haven't seen Hulk 2003 you should really watch it. The critics say it is great. Seriously watch it. It won't be a waste of 2 hours of your life at all.


Ok.

You're awfully upset about this.

You saw my qualifier about hardfast rules right?


Not upset.

Just kind of funny people make statements and don't really understand what they are saying. Then you clarify for them what "the bigger the gap the better the movie" really means and list the junk that audiences panned and Critics loved and it is " well it is not a hard and fast rule".

I mean someone indicated that a great critic review and a poor audience review meant that the audience just couldn't understand the film. What about Hulk 2003, King Kong or Antz was that difficult to understand? They were just middling to poor movies that critics loved.
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Post#330 » by HurricaneKid » Mon May 27, 2019 3:45 pm

I loved King Kong.

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Post#331 » by livestrong4ever » Mon May 27, 2019 3:51 pm

i have had HBO for close to ten years now- somehow i never came across deadwood. well anyways i watched an episode- and pretty much addicted. i am on season 3 already.
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Post#332 » by ReasonablySober » Mon May 27, 2019 4:45 pm

Yea what was wrong with King Kong?
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Post#333 » by Mags FTW » Mon May 27, 2019 5:08 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Yea what was wrong with King Kong?

I thought it was OK. It got blowback because it got a lot of hype and failed to live up to it. It's also 3 hours long.
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Post#334 » by ReasonablySober » Mon May 27, 2019 5:11 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:Yea what was wrong with King Kong?

I thought it was OK. It got blowback because it got a lot of hype and failed to live up to it. It's also 3 hours long.


Now that you mention it, yea, I did fall asleep in the theater for a bit.
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Post#335 » by Ron Swanson » Mon May 27, 2019 5:21 pm

I thought Skull Island was a much better take on King Kong. Peter Jackson's movie was 3 hours of boring, hot garbage. Now that I think of it, outside of the original LoTR movies and the Lovely Bones, I'm struggling to think of any other good Peter Jackson movies.

Also, War of the Worlds was awesome. Nobody does aliens like Spielberg.
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Post#336 » by ReasonablySober » Mon May 27, 2019 5:26 pm

Peter Jackson movies are my cure for insomnia. Never made it through a LotR in my life.
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Post#337 » by Bucksfan28 » Mon May 27, 2019 8:42 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I thought Skull Island was a much better take on King Kong.


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Post#338 » by HaroldinGMinor » Mon May 27, 2019 11:52 pm

livestrong4ever wrote:i have had HBO for close to ten years now- somehow i never came across deadwood. well anyways i watched an episode- and pretty much addicted. i am on season 3 already.


Same. I always knew it was good I just never got around to watching it. I had no idea it was based on real people.
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Re: OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers) 

Post#339 » by HaroldinGMinor » Mon May 27, 2019 11:58 pm

I think a better measure of RT is movies where the audience loved it and critics hated it. Typically they are movies enjoyed by 12 year olds (i.e. Venom, Glass), movies enjoyed by old people who like feel good stories (i.e. The Upside), or movies enjoyed by morons (i.e. anything with Kevin James).
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Post#340 » by FrieAaron » Tue May 28, 2019 12:00 am

Jackson's Kong is a good movie. Definitely overlong but some great moments in it.

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