Bucks Offseason Thread - Trade, news, re-tool discussion

[Daver]

Anyone who wants a "hardass" doesn't know how this league works. It's not 1988. Players do not respond well to that ****.

I want a basic tactician.

Nurse is that guy

[GoldenAntlers]

Will someone explain why they prefer Lue over Nurse or Nurse over Lue? Personally, I prefer a more "exciting hire" (I have no idea who, young and ambitious?).

I only know vague generalities about these two. Why would they each specifically be better for Giannis than Bud has been?

[Daver]

Will someone explain why they prefer Lue over Nurse or Nurse over Lue? Personally, I prefer a more "exciting hire" (I have no idea who, young and ambitious?).

I only know vague generalities about these two. Why would they each specifically be better for Giannis than Bud has been?

Nurse may be the same critisizm that TT does in that be runs his players hard but hes a great x and o guy has some semblance of a motionO isnt afraid and absolutely does adjust both on O and D all things bud doesnt do.
I can also say i think he would involve lopez alot more on O

[Prez]

I want a sharp, quick thinking, creative playoff coach who I don’t feel is going to be 10 steps behind the likes of Spo in a series at every given moment, and doesn’t take multiple games to make obvious decisions/adjustments that most people on this board call out immediately. And I don’t necessarily want a hard ass, but I do want a strong minded coach who is able to get through to Giannis about optimizing his style of play and isn’t just going to be bullied into letting him do whatever the **** he wants.

Nurse and Lue have their warts but they’re a hell of lot closer to that description than Bud.

[Antinomy]

The difference in this series was Butler going absolutely nuclear to close out the series. We saw both Middleton and Giannis do the same at times during our Championship run. We didn't have anyone do that in the fourth quarter in either of the last two games. Sometimes that's the difference.

I don't get the doom and gloom towards Middleton to be honest. Really bad luck injury season with the knee, which affected him on the defensive end. All things considered, I'd say the 24/6/6 on 46.5/40.6/86.7 is highly encouraging.

I don't understand Jrue at all. Dude is CLEARLY a smart basketball player but does so much stupid **** in the playoffs. It's absolutely maddening.

I just think people have an axe to grind with Khris & are hoping that at SOME point, they’ll be proven right.

They will never admit that he was the key to winning that title.

Nor will they recognize that his career numbers are better in the playoffs than they are in the regular season.

[skones]

The difference in this series was Butler going absolutely nuclear to close out the series. We saw both Middleton and Giannis do the same at times during our Championship run. We didn't have anyone do that in the fourth quarter in either of the last two games. Sometimes that's the difference.

I don't get the doom and gloom towards Middleton to be honest. Really bad luck injury season with the knee, which affected him on the defensive end. All things considered, I'd say the 24/6/6 on 46.5/40.6/86.7 is highly encouraging.

I don't understand Jrue at all. Dude is CLEARLY a smart basketball player but does so much stupid **** in the playoffs. It's absolutely maddening.

I just think people have an axe to grind with Khris & are hoping that at SOME point, they’ll be proven right.

They will never admit that he was the key to winning that title.

Nor will they recognize that his career numbers are better in the playoffs than they are in the regular season.

Probably a bit of truth to this but its insane. I remember being one of the few vehemently against the contract given to him in '15 when he was a wee 3+D specialist, and I'm the one stanning for him. The Bucks were +29 points per 100 possessions with him on the court vs off in this series. +2.6 on, -26.4 with him off, easily the largest differential on the team and people are still roasting him. Makes no sense.

[Antinomy]

Whatever coach we get, needs to have a more innovative offense. Someone who focuses on ball movement, driving + kicking, motion, etc

Look at what Mike Brown did with the Kings this year after being under Kerr for years.

If you remember Mike Brown from the late 2000s with Lebron, he was infamously known for having that archangel offense where it was Lebron at the top of the key isoing & he would go 1 on 5.

Clearly he’s learned how to install an offense since then.

We need someone to come in & do that for Giannis — Open up the game for him. Get him easier baskets. More DHOs.

Unles we can get a creative guard Lillard-level, things will not change.

[slos]

It's been two years that I love the idea of McCollum replacing Allen in the starting 5. This team desperately needs shooting and ball handling. CJ can help on both ends. His defence doesn't bother me much. I mean he is replacing Allen after all.

CJ for Bobby, Allen, Pat works in terms of money and value. His declining deal helps moving forward. Let Midds opt in and extend him on a declining deal too. Do the same with Jrue. It will allow keeping this team together with Giannis' supermax. Jrue/CJ/Midds are only 32, they can easily compliment Giannis for the next 3-4 seasons. Brook has just had a DPOY campaign, he should also have a couple of good seasons in his tank.

Get younger through the bench. Beauchamp would be my 6th in this plan. FWIW after Brook gets his 15ish shiny new deal Bucks hit with those 6 the tax mark. Fill the blanks with young players that want to prove themselves in the big scene. I liked what I saw from AJ Green. Maybe we can get a more proven one with the tax-MLE. Bucks won't need too many good ones in the playoffs with Nurse playing 40ish minutes his starters after all...

I don't care much about Carter, Matthews, Ingles, Crowder. None of them showed up in the playoffs. They are welcome on a minimum to soak up regular season minutes.

[Prez]

#1 roster priority is getting a quick, dynamic playoff ready offensive guard and as I look around the league and what we have, I don’t really see how we get it done. I feel like we’ll make some changes just to shake it up a bit but will go into the playoffs with that same hole in the roster and our offense will die when it matters, again.

[SupremeHustle]

#1 roster priority is getting a quick, dynamic playoff ready offensive guard and as I look around the league and what we have, I don’t really see how we get it done. I feel like we’ll make some changes just to shake it up a bit but will go into the playoffs with that same hole in the roster and our offense will die when it matters, again.

[SupremeHustle]

We gotta be ballsy and put Jrue and/or Khris in a deal to get our Haliburton.

[brettski]

Really expected I'd wake up and Bud would be fired. Any rumours going on or too soon? Only thing I can see is Giannis won't extend in September?

[Prez]

#1 roster priority is getting a quick, dynamic playoff ready offensive guard and as I look around the league and what we have, I don’t really see how we get it done. I feel like we’ll make some changes just to shake it up a bit but will go into the playoffs with that same hole in the roster and our offense will die when it matters, again.

Either would be dope but LaMelo’s trade value is probably way beyond what we could offer, and there was a maybe a small window early in that Hawks/Celtics series where Trae seemed like a real possibility but I think the last 3 games he’s played his way out of that. No way Atlanta trades him now after taking Boston to 6+ imo.

This is where years and years of crappy drafting and having basically no promising young players to throw in trades really hurts.

[MissKhriddleton]

I want Coach Mosley.

[Profound23]

#1 roster priority is getting a quick, dynamic playoff ready offensive guard and as I look around the league and what we have, I don’t really see how we get it done. I feel like we’ll make some changes just to shake it up a bit but will go into the playoffs with that same hole in the roster and our offense will die when it matters, again.

Yes...exactly.

[DingleJerry]

If Ball is available, you go as hard as you can for that and find a way. It would probably need him pushing his way here though. Really I don't see why they'd trade him. He's not even off his rookie contract and they can keep him for like 6 more years. I know his weaknesses but one would hope put on a winning team and pushed by a psycho like Giannis that he'd improve on that area. His O is exactly what we need.

I don't even see how a contract could work with them, MAybe taking back Hayward's bad deal. I'd actually guess if we start talking to them we'd end up with Rozier and that's fine by me. He accomplishes a lot of what we need at a fraction of the cost to acquire and cost of contract.

[German Athens]

Of the young very good guards, I’d think garland may be the most plausible. With Cleveland getting Mitchell, they’ve started to put their chips in and start to look to win now.

Jrue would pair really well with him, and then the other big hole in Cleveland is sf.

We’d be gutting our team, but Jrue and Khris for garland+.

[Neuromancer56]

#1 roster priority is getting a quick, dynamic playoff ready offensive guard and as I look around the league and what we have, I don’t really see how we get it done. I feel like we’ll make some changes just to shake it up a bit but will go into the playoffs with that same hole in the roster and our offense will die when it matters, again.

Jrue for Trae Young. Dude is another playoff monster like Jimmy Butler.

[Dick Tate]

Please use the spoiler tag on Trae's pic when quoting. The triple shot was rough. Thx.

[Matches Malone]

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