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Hakeem won a ring with four vet role players, and two solid youngsters (Cassell and Horry). Giannis is Hakeem with handles. I don’t think there is any way we can contend next season. But there is a path to surrounding GA with the same type of cast (4-5 vets who fit the system, 1-2 up and coming youngsters) over the next two years and letting greatness rise. GA would have an easier path than Hakeem had through the mid 90s western conference.
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Profound23 wrote:Waiting for Giannis to pull the Leo scene from Wolf of Wall Street
"I'm not f...ing leaving!"
send it to him!
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Licensed to Il wrote:Hakeem won a ring with four vet role players, and two solid youngsters (Cassell and Horry). Giannis is Hakeem with handles. I don’t think there is any way we can contend next season. But there is a path to surrounding GA with the same type of cast (4-5 vets who fit the system, 1-2 up and coming youngsters) over the next two years and letting greatness rise. GA would have an easier path than Hakeem had through the mid 90s western conference.
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Licensed to Il wrote:Hakeem won a ring with four vet role players, and two solid youngsters (Cassell and Horry). Giannis is Hakeem with handles. I don’t think there is any way we can contend next season. But there is a path to surrounding GA with the same type of cast (4-5 vets who fit the system, 1-2 up and coming youngsters) over the next two years and letting greatness rise. GA would have an easier path than Hakeem had through the mid 90s western conference.
I know it's tempting to say there's no way it can be done, but also, the Pacers had the 12th best regular season net rating this year and now are a win away from the Finals. Where they likely get waxed, granted. But we thought the same thing about the 2019 Raps. Get in there and you never know.
I don't think there's anything theoretically preventing us from putting the kind of team you described around Giannis in one offseason. It's an inside straight, for sure, and two months from now we might have already missed the boat (or gotten on the wrong boat, or hit the ground in Horst's rocketship), but right now all things are possible. Retain who we need to retain, make a couple smart trades, and let's see what we've got.
Teams are close together. A little change can go a long way.
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Real GM Bucks board, where a fan who pitches that we can contend in two years, is told that we can actually do so in one offseason.
I don't disagree with you in theory. But the Dame injury and contract is pretty ominous.
Where most of us agree, is let's stack a good trade or two with another smart signing or two.
I don't disagree with you in theory. But the Dame injury and contract is pretty ominous.
Where most of us agree, is let's stack a good trade or two with another smart signing or two.
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emunney wrote:Licensed to Il wrote:Hakeem won a ring with four vet role players, and two solid youngsters (Cassell and Horry). Giannis is Hakeem with handles. I don’t think there is any way we can contend next season. But there is a path to surrounding GA with the same type of cast (4-5 vets who fit the system, 1-2 up and coming youngsters) over the next two years and letting greatness rise. GA would have an easier path than Hakeem had through the mid 90s western conference.
I know it's tempting to say there's no way it can be done, but also, the Pacers had the 12th best regular season net rating this year and now are a win away from the Finals. Where they likely get waxed, granted. But we thought the same thing about the 2019 Raps. Get in there and you never know.
I don't think there's anything theoretically preventing us from putting the kind of team you described around Giannis in one offseason. It's an inside straight, for sure, and two months from now we might have already missed the boat (or gotten on the wrong boat, or hit the ground in Horst's rocketship), but right now all things are possible. Retain who we need to retain, make a couple smart trades, and let's see what we've got.
Teams are close together. A little change can go a long way.
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sidney lanier wrote:The premise of the predictive pundits is this: Giannis might go elsewhere to seek a(nother) title.
The flaw in that premise is that, in an NBA where there's a different champion every year and nothing like a dynasty in sight, how would he know where to go?
In the Giannis will title-hunt story
To seek out more personal glory
It's a problem it seems
To identify teams
The results are too aleatory
devil's advocate: San Antonio would be the very obvious choice
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Licensed to Il wrote:Real GM Bucks board, where a fan who pitches that we can contend in two years, is told that we can actually do so in one offseason.
I don't disagree with you in theory. But the Dame injury and contract is pretty ominous.
Where most of us agree, is let's stack a good trade or two with another smart signing or two.
Hey man, the Pistons won 14 games last year.
It's unquestionably a major handicap to have Dame making all that money and not playing. At the same time, neither of these Finals teams (assuming the Pacers eventually close out) are taxpayers. It's a longshot but it's doable. What I'm really trying to get at though is that it's a longshot *for everybody*. There are degrees, sure, but as long as we have Giannis, we're on the doorstep.
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Aside from this being a ridiculous proposition, I mostly find interesting that the media are totally okay with giving big markets "Gap Years" to revamp their teams around their superstar, but when it comes to affording Milwaukee that same luxury with Giannis, it's like "No, go **** yourself." Just funny how that goes, isn't it?
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Simmons pod last night. Some guy named Van Lathan says we need to take a lower return in order to thank Giannis for bringing a championship to Milwaukee. We need to do right by him and send him wherever he wants to go.
Simmons doubles down on his deal where Kat comes here and OG or Bridges go to the Spurs. Vassell and a couple picks to MKE. Of course not the #2.
Simmons doubles down on his deal where Kat comes here and OG or Bridges go to the Spurs. Vassell and a couple picks to MKE. Of course not the #2.
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Van is a great listen for Star Wars and Marvel content, but I don't know why anyone would listen to him on sports.paulpressey25 wrote:Simmons pod last night. Some guy named Van Lathan says we need to take a lower return in order to thank Giannis for bringing a championship to Milwaukee. We need to do right by him and send him wherever he wants to go.
Simmons doubles down on his deal where Kat comes here and OG or Bridges go to the Spurs. Vassell and a couple picks to MKE. Of course not the #2.
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paulpressey25 wrote:Simmons pod last night. Some guy named Van Lathan says we need to take a lower return in order to thank Giannis for bringing a championship to Milwaukee. We need to do right by him and send him wherever he wants to go.
Simmons doubles down on his deal where Kat comes here and OG or Bridges go to the Spurs. Vassell and a couple picks to MKE. Of course not the #2.
Has this ever happened in the NBA: a team taking unders for a superstar they’re trading because they’ve given them years of service and they want to do “right” by them?
I mean I doubt we’d ever send Giannis to like Charlotte but I think we’d work with him as much as possible to try get him somewhere he’d find acceptable. Kinda like when the Blazers moved Dame (well at least once he relented on the Miami or nothing demands).
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Plossum wrote:paulpressey25 wrote:Simmons pod last night. Some guy named Van Lathan says we need to take a lower return in order to thank Giannis for bringing a championship to Milwaukee. We need to do right by him and send him wherever he wants to go.
Simmons doubles down on his deal where Kat comes here and OG or Bridges go to the Spurs. Vassell and a couple picks to MKE. Of course not the #2.
Has this ever happened in the NBA: a team taking unders for a superstar they’re trading because they’ve given them years of service and they want to do “right” by them?
I mean I doubt we’d ever send Giannis to like Charlotte but I think we’d work with him as much as possible to try get him somewhere he’d find acceptable. Kinda like when the Blazers moved Dame (well at least once he relented on the Miami or nothing demands).
Question-why do you listen to this nonsense when you know it's all click bait and they have no clue?
I'm not trading Giannis (except for the #1 pick), but if I did, where Giannis wanted to go would have absolutely no bearing. Once he decides he wants out, my loyalty to him has also ceased.
The Bucks have an obligation to field the best team they can (Horst and Doc notwithstanding). Once Giannis's loyalty stops, so does the Bucks. It's hard to understand anyone thinking differently.
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Plossum wrote:paulpressey25 wrote:Simmons pod last night. Some guy named Van Lathan says we need to take a lower return in order to thank Giannis for bringing a championship to Milwaukee. We need to do right by him and send him wherever he wants to go.
Simmons doubles down on his deal where Kat comes here and OG or Bridges go to the Spurs. Vassell and a couple picks to MKE. Of course not the #2.
Has this ever happened in the NBA: a team taking unders for a superstar they’re trading because they’ve given them years of service and they want to do “right” by them?
I mean I doubt we’d ever send Giannis to like Charlotte but I think we’d work with him as much as possible to try get him somewhere he’d find acceptable. Kinda like when the Blazers moved Dame (well at least once he relented on the Miami or nothing demands).
Lol no that’s never happened. It’s absolutely ridiculous ppl get paid for viewership and that’s the type of **** they say. This is just the curse of Kareem saying Milwaukee didn’t fit his cultural needs and wanted out 50+ years ago. That narrative will just never die.
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This Giannis/Toronto "mutual interest" stuff is hilarious
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Yeah, we're really doing the Giannis/Masai stuff from 5-years ago all over again. These dudes are getting pretty desperate to keep the Giannis trade narrative alive until the draft.
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I'm not fully sure why everyone thinks this will be an automatic playin team next year. We've spent the past 4(?) regular seasons derailed by injury and got a top 6 seed just fine. How will this year be different?
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GoldenAntlers wrote:I'm not fully sure why everyone thinks this will be an automatic playin team next year. We've spent the past 4(?) regular seasons derailed by injury and got a top 6 seed just fine. How will this year be different?
Ppl just assuming teams like Detroit and Orlando will leap frog a Bucks team that’s under talented.
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People also assuming Doc will be Doc and we will have a full season of Kuzma.
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Plenty of reasons to doubt whether the Bucks will be better than Orlando and Detroit next season. We have no idea what this roster looks like on opening night.