Squad 6 Thread

[chuckleslove]

I'm sure the decision was financially motivated considering the difference between the two seats for a full-season package is $43.

The difference after Bogut's bulk/employee discount is factored in won't be that much. Probably more like $5-8 per seat per game difference when you factor in that Bogut got a much bigger discount last year than what is listed on the website.

That makes sense, but considering the Bucks can now sell those season tickets for $68 (or $96 on game day) instead of selling section 208 for $25, the are making a lot more money on the sales.

Either way, I blame it on Drew Gooden, if we didn't sign him to that contract the Bucks wouldn't need the extra money.

Yep, the money difference for Squad 6 tickets won't be as much but the extra money made selling our old seats vs selling our new seats will definitely be a nice chunk of change.

As for blaming Gooden, like I said this was discussed back during the end of the year last year while the season was still going on So unless the Bucks were contacting Gooden before he was a free agent

[Newz]

In all fairness the NBA is banning vuvuzuelas and horns this year so no matter where we sit those won't be an issue

The horn was just an example.

Insert paper being thrown into their hair or on their clothing, people screaming, people standing up and jumping around... Noise in general and it is the same concept.

I think Squad 6 is amazing. I think a lot of the fans like it. I can understand the people who are not big fans of it though and I have no problems with them... I certainly wouldn't call them 'idiots' or 'not real fans' because they aren't a fan of sitting by the section Squad 6 is in.

[blkout]

Insert paper being thrown into their hair or on their clothing, people screaming, people standing up and jumping around... Noise in general and it is the same concept

Going to sports event and complaining about the noise is like going to Antarctica and complaining that it's cold.

[trwi7]

This is a really difficult situation. You have to put S6 in the back because you can't have them standing up in front without having the people behind them get super pissed. So that's out. You can't have them in the upper deck because that would make what they're supposed to be doing useless and you can't have them in the back where the suites are because the people in the suites complain about a lot of it.

So if they're trying to make everyone happy, section 208 or 207 or any of the other sections behind the basket are best. How many seats are in section 208 rows A-V?

[Newz]

It's a sporting event, not a freaking library. If people go to these things not expecting to hear noise then they are idiots flat out. I don't care how much money you pay, last time I checked the "QUIET PLEASE" signs around the arenas were only a figment of the imagination of certain American sports fans. Over here you'd be pretty much thrown out if you complained about anything above obscenity and violence.

The idea that if you pay a lot of money you shouldn't have to listen to people chanting, cheering, blowing horns and making a lot of noise makes me sick. If this mindset ever hits our shores I am going to start blowing **** up.

Who ever said that we have to be perfectly quiet? No one ever complained about us chanting or cheering for the team.

Some of the things we did were annoying though. I sat next to Steger and his wife... There was this guy behind us who had some sort of bird calling thing that was quite possibly the most annoying device ever invented in the history of noise making devices. He sat there and blew the thing in my ear all game, I wanted to turn around and smack him at half of the games because my head was ready to explode. I can only imagine the people in front of us felt the same way.

Maybe those people are idiots, but I doubt the Bucks would agree. Say that there are 100 people with season tickets in the lower bowl that wouldn't want to sit by us and they wouldn't want to go to games because of it. Those 'idiots' can just not come. Let's say the average lower bowl ticket is $50 (which is being generous)... Kick those 100 'idiots' out and Squad 6 ends up costing the Bucks $205,000.

Squad 6 is great and should be a part of the Bradley Center and the Bucks. To ignore all other fans, the ability to generate more revenue and other factors just because of us would be a mistake though.

I hope we stay in the same section, but if we are moved it isn't that big of a deal. We'll still be able to make noise, cheer and we will have a very similar impact on the Bradley Center as we did before.

[blkout]

Maybe those people are idiots, but I doubt the Bucks would agree. Say that there are 100 people with season tickets in the lower bowl that wouldn't want to sit by us and they wouldn't want to go to games because of it. Those 'idiots' can just not come. Let's say the average lower bowl ticket is $50 (which is being generous)... Kick those 100 'idiots' out and Squad 6 ends up costing the Bucks $205,000.

So if those specific fans decide not to buy tickets again, no one else will come and buy them?

[Newz]

Maybe those people are idiots, but I doubt the Bucks would agree. Say that there are 100 people with season tickets in the lower bowl that wouldn't want to sit by us and they wouldn't want to go to games because of it. Those 'idiots' can just not come. Let's say the average lower bowl ticket is $50 (which is being generous)... Kick those 100 'idiots' out and Squad 6 ends up costing the Bucks $205,000.

So if those specific fans decide not to buy tickets again, no one else will come and buy them?

Yes.

Do you think the Bradley Center actually sells out or something? You realize that a lot of lower bowl seats are empty, don't you?

[LUKE23]

The Bucks should do whatever sells them the most tickets this year, I think we all agree on that. But I CANNOT STAND people that go to sporting events and complain about NOISE. If someone is doing something to really disturb you, fine, but to complain about noise is really unreal. It's the same thing as me being told to sit down by people at Badger basketball games when I stand up to cheer a great play. If you're coming to a sporting event to sit on your ass and not say a word, stay the F at home and watch it on TV. Arenas are made to be as loud as possible.

[WEFFPIM]

I've never seen so many people complain about free season tickets before.

[chuckleslove]

Maybe those people are idiots, but I doubt the Bucks would agree. Say that there are 100 people with season tickets in the lower bowl that wouldn't want to sit by us and they wouldn't want to go to games because of it. Those 'idiots' can just not come. Let's say the average lower bowl ticket is $50 (which is being generous)... Kick those 100 'idiots' out and Squad 6 ends up costing the Bucks $205,000.

So if those specific fans decide not to buy tickets again, no one else will come and buy them?

The Bucks weren't having sell outs last year until the playoffs. I don't expect them to have sell outs all season this year either, with sustained success we will but I doubt it will happen this year. You will see probably the season opener have great attendance maybe a sellout. The Miami games, Lakers, Boston, Chicago, bobble head nights, those games will all draw, but for the vast majority of the games, those seats will just remain empty like Newz said, his point is very valid.

All of that being said I don't think it will matter as much where we sit next year. The fans and crowd know what Squad 6 is about, they know a lot of what we do, they know how to follow along. The end of last year and into the playoffs the fans and entire crowd joined in more and more. I do think it puts some of the burden of joining in with Squad 6 on the people on that end of the arena even more though because we won't be visible and will be further away from people on the other end so that quarter of the arena is really going to have to get into it if we want it to spread the entire distance. Last year we were visible to pretty much the entire lower bowl so any section could start joining in and spread the cheering, this year it won't be as easy for that to happen but at the same time I think more people are going to be more willing to join in with us because it did pick up every game throughout the season. By the end of the year you would see lots of fans doing certain chants and cheers with us and I expect that to continue.

[blkout]

I'm sorry but the idea that there's only X amount of fans and if they leave no one will ever take their place is ridiculous. The team is finally winning games, surely that's going to make a difference? It's one thing attracting fans to see a team that's not made the play-offs in years, and another to attract fans to a team that's basically a lock to do so this year.

Plus if they didn't want to sit by Squad 6, why couldn't they get tickets somewhere else instead of just not coming to the games? By what you said there'd be more than enough tickets available for them to go and sit on the other side of the arena or something. Also if the bird call guy was so annoying why not shut him up? Just like the vuvuzelas and whatever else was over the top.

Edit: That was directed at Newz. Should have quoted.

[chuckleslove]

I've never seen so many people complain about free season tickets before.

I haven't seen a single person complain about free season tickets here or anywhere.

[blkout]

My gripe isn't with them moving you, it's with the acceptance of the attitude that if you pay alot of money to go to a sports event you should be able to sit without having to deal with a lot of noise. It's just stupid.

[WEFFPIM]

I've never seen so many people complain about free season tickets before.

I haven't seen a single person complain about free season tickets here or anywhere.

Ummm, there's plenty of people in this thread complaining about the new location of Squad 6.

[jerrod]

This is a really difficult situation. You have to put S6 in the back because you can't have them standing up in front without having the people behind them get super pissed. So that's out. You can't have them in the upper deck because that would make what they're supposed to be doing useless and you can't have them in the back where the suites are because the people in the suites complain about a lot of it.

So if they're trying to make everyone happy, section 208 or 207 or any of the other sections behind the basket are best. How many seats are in section 208 rows A-V?

it's easy, i will pay the handsome fee of twenty (20) american dollars per game for that suite and will not complain once about the noise

[LUKE23]

Ummm, there's plenty of people in this thread complaining about the new location of Squad 6

They are questioning the reason behind the move (even people who aren't in it like twirl are as well). It has nothing to do with complaining.

[BigSmooth_31]

[Newz]

I'm sorry but the idea that there's only X amount of fans and if they leave no one will ever take their place is ridiculous. The team is finally winning games, surely that's going to make a difference? It's one thing attracting fans to see a team that's not made the play-offs in years, and another to attract fans to a team that's basically a lock to do so this year.

You clearly do not understand the Bucks fan base. Our attendance has never been that great. If those people leave, they are not being replaced for a majority of the games unless the big attractions (Heat, Lakers) are in town.

The NBA does not draw huge crowds... Especially a team like the Bucks. It isn't ridiculous at all, you just don't know a whole lot about the subject to be honest.

Plus if they didn't want to sit by Squad 6, why couldn't they get tickets somewhere else instead of just not coming to the games? By what you said there'd be more than enough tickets available for them to go and sit on the other side of the arena or something. Also if the bird call guy was so annoying why not shut him up? Just like the vuvuzelas and whatever else was over the top.

That's why I said the people who refuse to move when they are offered new seats (and apparently there were some last year) are just being difficult to be difficult.

I don't know, I think that if we started complaining about where we were sitting we would look like the ones who were idiots. Bogut is the one paying the money and he is the star player on the team. If he doesn't like it, he'll say something. If he doesn't care, then I don't care.

[blkout]

You clearly do not understand the Bucks fan base. Our attendance has never been that great. If those people leave, they are not being replaced for a majority of the games unless the big attractions (Heat, Lakers) are in town.

The NBA does not draw huge crowds... Especially a team like the Bucks. It isn't ridiculous at all, you just don't know a whole lot about the subject to be honest.

Considering the fact that your initial statement about this was so hyperbolic (the idea that 100 people would not buy season tickets again just because of squad 6, and NONE of those 100 tickets would be replaced) to come across this arrogant is really bizarre. I know you don't like people disagreeing with you but this attitude is a bit over the top don't you think?

Sports fans are the same all over the World. They turn up in droves when the team is winning, they don't when the team is losing. If there's a big/good team in town they'll come watch it, if there's a **** team in town they won't. It's nothing new.

[chuckleslove]

I've never seen so many people complain about free season tickets before.

I haven't seen a single person complain about free season tickets here or anywhere.

Ummm, there's plenty of people in this thread complaining about the new location of Squad 6.

First of all the people complaining the most aren't even in Squad 6. The Squad 6 members posting in this thread today are: steger, myself, Larry Harris and Newz. The other people who have been posting aren't even in Squad 6.

Second showing concern over the location being able to get the crowd as involved as last year is not even close to the same thing as complaining. I think everyone in Squad 6 was grateful for it last year(at least the vast majority, I did feel like a few people took it for granted). For me it was the single greatest sporting experience in my life. It was like sitting in the student section at Badgers games(I've done it plenty for both Basketball and Football), only on a different scale because it was for a professional team and we were somewhat revolutionary in what we did.

Showing and expressing concerns over how it will impact the experience is not the same as complaining I'll be happy and show up at every game in either section, despite thinking that we might have a slightly smaller impact in the new location.