Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

[JayMKE]

Kidd has had one year as a HC and finished 6th in the EC, which considering his team(not payroll) wasn't a bad finish, but more oh a meh. But he managed in 12 months to piss off his own organization to the point where they're going to trade him.

Sorry if bucks fans want someone with more a resume or a background in the FO.

Also the bucks have to great young assets in Giannis/Parker and some okay young talent Sanders/Henson/Knight/Middleton to go along with new fresh owners. This is a good NBA job and we're going to get Jason Kidd? It has to be a joke.

Who would be a better hire and what makes Kidd so much worse? He's not a Jabari Parker level saint but not many people are.

It has nothing to do with being a saint and I don't have a name, but Kidd has never done anything like this before and as previously stated his one year working in a suit in the NBA didn't end so well. So how the hell would we trust him with more responsibilities.

Being a HC in no way relates to it? Being such a great cerebral player doesn't give him any insight into the game of basketball?

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

its not the worst post of alltime jay.... or anything even close. but yeah im not feeling where youre going with it either man.

[jokeboy86]

I'm not even saying Kidd couldnt do the job and maybe he was on his way to becoming a good coach in BKN. It just seems to me like a "big name" move by the owners. Something a big market team would do even if it somewhat doesnt make any sense. But again these owners came here and saw how irrrvelant the Bucks were locally and nationally in every aspect whether it was on or off the court. They stated how much they want to change that and publicity wise they have. From the daughter at the draft, to possibly changing the colors, to Parker(by no control of their own) to now this. Think about it the Brewers have the best record in baseball(or 2nd), have gotten out to the best start in team history and the Bucks will be dominating the local sports landscape for the 2nd week in a row. In July.

[JayMKE]

Lasry obviously has a relationship with Kidd and values & trusts his judgement, it's not like they're just poker buddies or going after big name.

[LUKE23]

Lasry obviously has a relationship with Kidd and values & trusts his judgement, it's not like they're just poker buddies or going after big name.

Lasry having a relationship with Kidd is exactly why his judgment is impaired when evaluating him.

[WiscoKing13]

Who would be a better hire and what makes Kidd so much worse? He's not a Jabari Parker level saint but not many people are.

It has nothing to do with being a saint and I don't have a name, but Kidd has never done anything like this before and as previously stated his one year working in a suit in the NBA didn't end so well. So how the hell would we trust him with more responsibilities.

Being a HC in no way relates to it? Being such a great cerebral player doesn't give him any insight into the game of basketball?

Has kidd ever worked a trade deadline fetching offers and making offers?
He's sat in on two drafts, one draft in 2013 where he couldn't of done any previous work since he was hired 10 days before the draft.
He's never hired a HC or GM
Does he actually know how to scout draft prospects and how they project?

What he has done is piss off his current organization enough that they want him to leave, and he can't even do that quietly without everyone knowing it. Oh yea he also pissed off his top assistant enough to banish him from the team, oh ya after he gave Frank a 6 year deal for a freaking assistant.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Lasry obviously has a relationship with Kidd and values & trusts his judgement, it's not like they're just poker buddies or going after big name.

we have no idea about what the nature of that relationship is. this hasn't been the first time ive gotten the sense theres a little too much "fanboism" going on in our ownership group.

[worthlessBucks]

(Group)
Now it ain’t no party like a J-Kidd party
Cus a J-Kidd party don’t stop

(Kidd)
But it ain’t no party cus I can’t get it started
With all the player haters on my jock

[AussieBuck]

Yes, there may occasionally be a Bill Bradley/Rhode Scholar type player in the NBA but those are by far the exception. If any proof exists, that Kidd is some brilliant mind, feel free to share any. Interestingly, we do know his SAT scores. Here is what he scored on his FOUR tries

670
540
630
480

**You get 400 points for filling out your name correctly!

do you realize how stupid you have to be to make scores like this? I mean like borderlike mentally handicapped.... unbelieveable.

Explain it to me someone, these numbers mean nothing to us foreign types.

[JayMKE]

Lasry obviously has a relationship with Kidd and values & trusts his judgement, it's not like they're just poker buddies or going after big name.

Lasry having a relationship with Kidd is exactly why his judgment is impaired when evaluating him.

Lasry isn't an idiot, he's not clueless about the game of basketball being a fan and playing himself. I think that much is clear just by hearing these guys talks, they know they're talking about. They're not Herb Kohl wanting to chase the 8th seed at all costs. Maybe Lasry's relationship with Kidd confirmed his judgement about a guy with a HOF resume as a player and a decent first year as a HC? As a I said a few times, it's not rocket science. What do you think Jason Kidd would do that is so bad?

[trwi7]

Yes, there may occasionally be a Bill Bradley/Rhode Scholar type player in the NBA but those are by far the exception. If any proof exists, that Kidd is some brilliant mind, feel free to share any. Interestingly, we do know his SAT scores. Here is what he scored on his FOUR tries

670
540
630
480

**You get 400 points for filling out your name correctly!

do you realize how stupid you have to be to make scores like this? I mean like borderlike mentally handicapped.... unbelieveable.

Explain it to me someone, these numbers mean nothing to us foreign types.

It's a standardized test for college admissions. Those are incredibly low scores. Don't know what it was like back then but the new one has a scoring range of 600-2400 in 10 point increments. Those would be some of the lowest scores one could possibly get I'm guessing.

[stillgotgame]

Why would we hire this guy?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/j ... -1.1400153

1. SAT scores were unbelievably low

2. Supposedly beat his wife repeatedly, then claimed the 5'7" 120 lb beat him up, lol

3. DWI in which he trashed his SUV.

Name another coach in the NBA that has these awesome credentials?

[WiscoKing13]

decent first year as a HC?

It was a decent year as far a results on the floor.

But again will beat the facts in
DUI to start the year, yes this matters.
Banished assistant he begged to get a 6 year deal at a million a year.
Wants to leave because he couldn't get a promotion after one year in a suit and turned this into a media circus.

[machu46]

I'll wait to freak out until we know exactly what we're giving up for him and how much power he'll really have. But his lack of experience doesn't scare me. The guy knows basketball at a level that not many people do, and we've been pandering for us to take chances instead of hiring the same old retreads for all of our openings. Then we finally do take a chance and everyone freaks out and begs us to hire someone with experience that hasn't worked out in the past. I understand the fear here, especially since we're talking about compensating Brooklyn for letting us have a guy that they're going to fire anyways, but I think we all need to breathe a little and just wait for the details to come out.

[WiscoKing13]

Trying to find a bright side, if we can talk them into Ersan for Thornton there's that. But than there's the problem of an Jason Kidd running an organization.

[jokeboy86]

Lasry obviously has a relationship with Kidd and values & trusts his judgement, it's not like they're just poker buddies or going after big name.

we have no idea about what the nature of that relationship is. this hasn't been the first time ive gotten the sense theres a little too much "fanboism" going on in our ownership group.

According to reports, Lasry at one time was Kidd's financial advisor.

[JayMKE]

It has nothing to do with being a saint and I don't have a name, but Kidd has never done anything like this before and as previously stated his one year working in a suit in the NBA didn't end so well. So how the hell would we trust him with more responsibilities.

Being a HC in no way relates to it? Being such a great cerebral player doesn't give him any insight into the game of basketball?

Has kidd ever worked a trade deadline fetching offers and making offers?
He's sat in on two drafts, one draft in 2013 where he couldn't of done any previous work since he was hired 10 days before the draft.
He's never hired a HC or GM
Does he actually know how to scout draft prospects and how they project?

What he has done is piss off his current organization enough that they want him to leave, and he can't even do that quietly without everyone knowing it. Oh yea he also pissed off his top assistant enough to banish him from the team, oh ya after he gave Frank a 6 year deal for a freaking assistant.

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We all do it here on RealGM every draft and trade deadline, doesn't seem to hard. We all seem to value our opinions on those matters despite having no qualifications. Who would you rather have negotiate a trade, John Hammond, Herb Kohl, or Jason Kidd? I imagine this is where "having balls" comes most in play. Not being a push over is a huge plus in my book. Lets not pretend like Kidd is going to running this entire team completely solo either.

[machu46]

Trying to find a bright side, if we can talk them into Ersan for Thornton there's that. But than there's the problem of an Jason Kidd running an organization.

No players can be traded, so I hate to burst your bubble, but yeah...

[stillgotgame]

Yes, there may occasionally be a Bill Bradley/Rhode Scholar type player in the NBA but those are by far the exception. If any proof exists, that Kidd is some brilliant mind, feel free to share any. Interestingly, we do know his SAT scores. Here is what he scored on his FOUR tries

670
540
630
480

**You get 400 points for filling out your name correctly!

do you realize how stupid you have to be to make scores like this? I mean like borderlike mentally handicapped.... unbelieveable.

Explain it to me someone, these numbers mean nothing to us foreign types.

In 1982 when I took the test, 1600 was the max score. You got 400 for filling out your name correctly. There were 60 math and 60 English questions, each worth 10 points each. The questions started out very easy, and got progressively harder. They were multiple choice, with 5 selections.
A score of 670 would be 27/120 questions right.

[WiscoKing13]

Trying to find a bright side, if we can talk them into Ersan for Thornton there's that. But than there's the problem of an Jason Kidd running an organization.

No players can be traded, so I hate to burst your bubble, but uh...

Thats a legal trade by itself, so it can be easily done as compensation if kidd is released per that agreement.