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Post#341 » by bizarro » Sun Mar 4, 2018 2:20 am

Best of luck in the Big East tourney, gents!

Shout out to my brother-in-law Sydney Johnson - Head Coach of Fairfield University. His Stags, led by the vastly underrated and phenomenal Tyler Nelson, beat 3 seed Niagra tonight in the MAAC tourney. With Rider and Canisius bowing out in the quarters, the Stags have a legitimate shot to win the next two and improbably get to the Big Dance. It's been a looooooong road for Syd in the MAAC and this would be his first time back in the NCAA's since he led Princeton vs. Brandon Knight and Kentucky way back in Knight's freshman season.

Anyhow, I come here to ask y'all give a lil' good mojo East Coast way so the Stags can eke out a couple more victories. Thanks, gents!


** Didn't know where to put this since I couldn't find the general college basketball thread. Apologies if this is spamming.
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Post#342 » by Mags FTW » Mon Mar 5, 2018 9:08 pm

Newest Bracketology still has them out. They are right on the Dayton/First Four Out bubble in most places.
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Post#343 » by xTitan » Mon Mar 5, 2018 9:28 pm

Mags FTW wrote:Newest Bracketology still has them out. They are right on the Dayton/First Four Out bubble in most places.

People are upset that MU would play Villanova if they get past Depaul, but it's the best thing for them, they will need a Villanova win at the least to get in.
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Post#344 » by DingleJerry » Mon Mar 5, 2018 9:33 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Their ceiling is waaaaay above there floor. I don't think they are a good tourney team but I would hate to be a top seed having to play them in round two. No idea when they catch fire.


That's my take on them two. i'd hate to be a high seed seeing them right away with the way they can shoot, that's the formula for most low seed upsets. hot 3 pt shooting at the right time.
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Re: Marquette Hoops Discussion 

Post#345 » by xTitan » Mon Mar 5, 2018 9:37 pm

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MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Their ceiling is waaaaay above there floor. I don't think they are a good tourney team but I would hate to be a top seed having to play them in round two. No idea when they catch fire.


That's my take on them two. i'd hate to be a high seed seeing them right away with the way they can shoot, that's the formula for most low seed upsets. hot 3 pt shooting at the right time.

My counter argument is who have they beaten that's any good this year? Creighton is probably their best wins, but they are simply the worst defensive team I've seen in awhile, anyone puts up 80+ on them and when their offense is off they are dead, because the defense just never carries them. The key is Hauser, he is just there most efficient scorer, he can get 20 points without taking a lot of shots and seems to open everything up for everybody else.
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Re: Marquette Hoops Discussion 

Post#346 » by DingleJerry » Mon Mar 5, 2018 9:44 pm

xTitan wrote:
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MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Their ceiling is waaaaay above there floor. I don't think they are a good tourney team but I would hate to be a top seed having to play them in round two. No idea when they catch fire.


That's my take on them two. i'd hate to be a high seed seeing them right away with the way they can shoot, that's the formula for most low seed upsets. hot 3 pt shooting at the right time.

My counter argument is who have they beaten that's any good this year? Creighton is probably their best wins, but they are simply the worst defensive team I've seen in awhile, anyone puts up 80+ on them and when their offense is off they are dead, because the defense just never carries them. The key is Hauser, he is just there most efficient scorer, he can get 20 points without taking a lot of shots and seems to open everything up for everybody else.


Yea I'm not making any predictions on outcomes. Just saying if they get in as a low seed I'm sure other teams would prefer to play the mid major type teams that will be seeded similarly. Still might lose but that kind of shooting is always a threat...
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Post#347 » by lessthannick11 » Mon Mar 5, 2018 9:46 pm

Their problem is they have a bunch of good wins (Creighton x2, Seton Hall x2, @Providence etc..) but nothing near a great win

1-1 in the BET and they probably end up in Dayton or the first/second team out
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Post#348 » by xTitan » Mon Mar 5, 2018 9:47 pm

DingleJerry wrote:
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That's my take on them two. i'd hate to be a high seed seeing them right away with the way they can shoot, that's the formula for most low seed upsets. hot 3 pt shooting at the right time.

My counter argument is who have they beaten that's any good this year? Creighton is probably their best wins, but they are simply the worst defensive team I've seen in awhile, anyone puts up 80+ on them and when their offense is off they are dead, because the defense just never carries them. The key is Hauser, he is just there most efficient scorer, he can get 20 points without taking a lot of shots and seems to open everything up for everybody else.


Yea I'm not making any predictions on outcomes. Just saying if they get in as a low seed I'm sure other teams would prefer to play the mid major type teams that will be seeded similarly. Still might lose but that kind of shooting is always a threat...

good point, if they beat Villanova, they could possibly get into the play in games...who knows, but not seeing them as a first 4 out or even being mentioned much at all by the Lunardi's of the world.
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Post#349 » by lessthannick11 » Mon Mar 5, 2018 9:56 pm

The are the second team out as of today according to Lunardi. CBS has them in the tourney as of now. They are probably around 50/50 in most brackets as in or last 4 in. But beating Depaul won't move them up, it only stops them from falling.
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Post#350 » by El Duderino » Mon Mar 5, 2018 10:39 pm

lessthannick11 wrote:Their problem is they have a bunch of good wins (Creighton x2, Seton Hall x2, @Providence etc..) but nothing near a great win

1-1 in the BET and they probably end up in Dayton or the first/second team out


They were right in the game late vs both Xavier and Villanova, but couldn't finish. Win either of those games, they likely would be in.

Now i think they'll need to beat both DePaul and Nova.

Their margin for error in most games is just razor thin because they are so bad defensively. Look at their last win vs Creighton. Howard and Rowsey made multiple really tough threes and still barely won.
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Post#351 » by Mags FTW » Mon Mar 5, 2018 11:05 pm

El Duderino wrote:
lessthannick11 wrote:Their problem is they have a bunch of good wins (Creighton x2, Seton Hall x2, @Providence etc..) but nothing near a great win

1-1 in the BET and they probably end up in Dayton or the first/second team out


They were right in the game late vs both Xavier and Villanova, but couldn't finish. Win either of those games, they likely would be in.

Now i think they'll need to beat both DePaul and Nova.

Their margin for error in most games is just razor thin because they are so bad defensively. Look at their last win vs Creighton. Howard and Rowsey made multiple really tough threes and still barely won.

One of the guys Inn FOX’s post game mentioned this. They shot 56% from 3, with Rowsey making some ridiculously long ones, Creighton shot 57% free throws, they were at home on Senior Day, and they still needed to hang on.

People keep talking about teams not wanting to play them in the tourney, but teams with solid D could destroy them. (See South Carolina last year)
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Post#352 » by El Duderino » Mon Mar 5, 2018 11:40 pm

Mags FTW wrote:
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They were right in the game late vs both Xavier and Villanova, but couldn't finish. Win either of those games, they likely would be in.

Now i think they'll need to beat both DePaul and Nova.

Their margin for error in most games is just razor thin because they are so bad defensively. Look at their last win vs Creighton. Howard and Rowsey made multiple really tough threes and still barely won.


One of the guys Inn FOX’s post game mentioned this. They shot 56% from 3, with Rowsey making some ridiculously long ones, Creighton shot 57% free throws, they were at home on Senior Day, and they still needed to hang on.

People keep talking about teams not wanting to play them in the tourney, but teams with solid D could destroy them. (See South Carolina last year)


Except Creighton played well i thought. Howard made a couple of tough threes with a hand right in his face and Rowsey dropped some 30 foot threes.

If i'm a high seed, i'd rather not face Marquette earlier either if they made the tournament. It's not that i feel they could make a deep run, but if you are say a 2-4 seed and get Marquette as a draw, they could potentially start raining threes and if your offense isn't clicking, it could easily lead to an upset.

Look how often when sizable upsets happen, the underdog shoots really well from three. It can be the great equalizer in a one game matchup.

Just this year Marquette was in the game very late vs Xavier because they made 15 threes and 11 vs Nova. Their ability to shoot puts stress on any defense. It's really their bad defense which odds are would make them get beat or simply not shooting well on a single night given how reliant they are on shooting.
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Re: Marquette Hoops Discussion 

Post#353 » by MidnightBuck » Tue Mar 6, 2018 1:55 am

This thread should be titled "Badger Fans Attempt to Talk Big East".
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Post#354 » by Johnlac1 » Tue Mar 6, 2018 2:32 pm

MidnightBuck wrote:This thread should be titled "Badger Fans Attempt to Talk Big East".

Why not?....they've already got two Pennsylvania teams in the conference. The way things are going in the Big Ten they'll be trying to acquire some New York teams.
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Post#355 » by DingleJerry » Tue Mar 6, 2018 2:51 pm

Yea I'm not about to talk much as I can't say I watch a ton of MU. But at this point I'm rooting for them so we at least have something. And all I was saying is that great shooting teams that get hot at the right time is usually exactly what leads to upsets in the tourney. So they have that going for them. It's usually exactly how undersized unathletic small schools knock off superior teams
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Post#356 » by Mags FTW » Tue Mar 6, 2018 3:57 pm

Johnlac1 wrote:
MidnightBuck wrote:This thread should be titled "Badger Fans Attempt to Talk Big East".

Why not?....they've already got two Pennsylvania teams in the conference.

Rutgers is in New Jersey,

So if we’re not allowed to follow teams that aren’t from our favorite school’s conference, I guess I shouldn’t worry about filling in a bracket this year.
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Re: Marquette Hoops Discussion 

Post#357 » by Thunder Muscle » Tue Mar 6, 2018 6:43 pm

I really don't think beating DePaul is going to be enough. Especially if some teams, like a BYU, steal a bubble team bid.
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Post#358 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Mar 6, 2018 7:20 pm

The 68 teams in the NCAA Tournament will be revealed in the first 10 minutes of the selection show on Sunday, and then the brackets and pairings will be unveiled by regions over the next 35 minutes.
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Post#359 » by skitch815 » Wed Mar 7, 2018 4:36 am

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The 68 teams in the NCAA Tournament will be revealed in the first 10 minutes of the selection show on Sunday, and then the brackets and pairings will be unveiled by regions over the next 35 minutes.


This is a horrible idea. How many people are going to watch the first 10 minutes and see that their team isn't on and then just shut it off?
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Post#360 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Mar 7, 2018 4:44 am

Horrible idea for advertisers maybe. Great idea for the rest of us. 10 minutes to see if Marquette makes it and if they do another 35, at most, to see who they play.
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