Hammond to ORL: Confirmed by ownership

M-C-G · Post #341 » by **M-C-G** » Tue May 23, 2017 7:58 pm

raferfenix wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if Kidd is next out the door. That said...

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Having to do the press conference where Kidd and Lasry were too busy having basketball discussion was probably the tipping point

randy84 · Post #342 » by **randy84** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:02 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Doesn't really matter that he won't be around for the draft. I'm guessing the guy we pick at #17 was going to be a "Zanik pick" whether Hammond had stayed or not. The succession plan had been in place since last offseason.

Does that mean Zanik was OK with the Plumlee extension and signing Delly and Telly? If so, please pick a GM with ties to the Spurs.

Matches Malone · Post #343 » by **Matches Malone** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:02 pm

nmeurett wrote:I really wish WSSP would actually do some research before basically crapping on a guy they know nothing about...

They are terrible. And Sparky is supposedly the **** "Bucks Guy". He's an imbecile.

Wiscfan92 · Post #344 » by **Wiscfan92** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:03 pm

Well the ORL board seems pretty excited about it, but a lot of their excitement is around his draft success and not considering the awful contracts he's been involved with.

Diggr14 · Post #345 » by **Diggr14** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:04 pm

raferfenix wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if Kidd is next out the door. That said...

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NO POLITICS! MD

Im not happy Hammond is gone. He built this team and is one of the best drafting GMs in the league. If you look around the league and at the crappy drafts that teams have with much better picks in many cases.. its sad that we created the environment to let this guy go.

With Parker out next season, and potentially 2-3 pretty vital players either opting out or probably lost in restricted FA.. I would be tempted to punt on 2018.. including trading our pick in 2017 for a likely late lottery pick in 2018. I'd love to have some shots at the top 5 in that draft.. it is loaded, much better than this one in terms of top talent. Heck, i'd even consider trying to trade Middleton for Brooklyns unprotected 2018 pick. Doncic, Porter, Bamba, Ayton... franchise changing talents.

Post #346 » by **Prez** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:04 pm

raferfenix wrote:

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God **** dammit.

Fotis St · Post #347 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:05 pm

Hammond is leaving us Giannis on a 4 year contract,
Thon and Brogdon on rookie contracts
and Khris on a great contract.
Probably Snell was his pick too, cleaned up Kidd's mess (MCW)
So ALL OUR STARTERS ARE HAMMOND'S PICKS ... and he left first ? I want Kidd gone

Nowak008 · Post #348 » by **Nowak008** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:06 pm

What always makes me laugh is when ppl blame Kohl for Hambone's mistakes. I'm sure Kohl really wanted Corey Maggette, Jackson, and Drew Gooden.

Post #349 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:06 pm

The relationship soured when Hammond wasn't allowed to fire Kidd? I would have thought the relationship soured when Kidd was hired without Hammond knowing anything about it.

M-C-G · Post #350 » by **M-C-G** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:06 pm

randy84 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Doesn't really matter that he won't be around for the draft. I'm guessing the guy we pick at #17 was going to be a "Zanik pick" whether Hammond had stayed or not. The succession plan had been in place since last offseason.

Does that mean Zanik was OK with the Plumlee extension and signing Delly and Telly? If so, please pick a GM with ties to the Spurs.

He was here a few weeks prior to that extension ( I think he started in June and the extension was announced in July), so wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't really in a position to influence that decision very much.

Post #351 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:07 pm

Nowak008 wrote:What always makes me laugh is when ppl blame Kohl for Hambone's mistakes. I'm sure Kohl really wanted Corey Maggette, Jackson, and Drew Gooden.

Yeah even if Hambone was given the "go get the 8th seed" order there's no excuse for those 3. None.

fansinceforever · Post #352 » by **fansinceforever** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:08 pm

None of this matters if the owners don't allow Basketball professionals to make basketball decisions.

Jimmmycrackcorn · Post #353 » by **Jimmmycrackcorn** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:11 pm

Nowak008 wrote:I'm sure Kohl really wanted Corey Maggette, Jackson, and Drew Gooden.

that's correct.... he did

wichmae · Post #354 » by **wichmae** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:13 pm

Badgerlander wrote:

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This is simply not true. It was Dave Babcock.

xTitan · Post #355 » by **xTitan** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:14 pm

machu46 wrote:1. Hammond and Weltman were the brains behind selecting Giannis.
2. Kidd wanted to bench Giannis at the end of the year.
3. Hammond wanted to fire Kidd.
4. Milwaukee chooses Kidd over Hammond.
5. Kidd trades Giannis to Orlando for Elfrid Payton, Nikola Vucevic, and a protected 1st round pick.
6. Kidd trades protected 1st round pick for (looks up Jeff Schwartz clients) Jeremy Lamb.
7. Welcome to Hell.

What about the rumors that Kidd was about to be fired the night Parker blew out his knee?

wichmae · Post #356 » by **wichmae** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:17 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:So it sounds as if much of the credit for Giannis goes to Weltman.

It was Dave Babcock who scouted Giannis extensively and brough tHammond and Weltman over to Greece to see him.

machu46 · Post #357 » by **machu46** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:22 pm

xTitan wrote:
machu46 wrote:1. Hammond and Weltman were the brains behind selecting Giannis.
2. Kidd wanted to bench Giannis at the end of the year.
3. Hammond wanted to fire Kidd.
4. Milwaukee chooses Kidd over Hammond.
5. Kidd trades Giannis to Orlando for Elfrid Payton, Nikola Vucevic, and a protected 1st round pick.
6. Kidd trades protected 1st round pick for (looks up Jeff Schwartz clients) Jeremy Lamb.
7. Welcome to Hell.

What about the rumors that Kidd was about to be fired the night Parker blew out his knee?

Please don't interrupt my timeline sir.

xTitan · Post #358 » by **xTitan** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:24 pm

wichmae wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:

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This is simply not true. It was Dave Babcock.

You beat me to it, was going to say the same thing.

Badgerlander · Post #359 » by **Badgerlander** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:26 pm

wichmae wrote:
Spoiler:
Badgerlander wrote:

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This is simply not true. It was Dave Babcock.

cool, thanks for clarifying

Wiscfan92 · Post #360 » by **Wiscfan92** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:27 pm

wichmae wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:So it sounds as if much of the credit for Giannis goes to Weltman.

It was Dave Babcock who scouted Giannis extensively and brough tHammond and Weltman over to Greece to see him.

I like how an Atlanta reporter is reporting all of this. Classic see a tweet and post it as your own without doing any background info or fact checking.