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Re: OT: Investing - Stocks/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Crypto 

Post#341 » by bizarro » Mon Jan 1, 2018 5:56 am

SupremeHustle wrote:I just realized that if XRP hits the number I'm hoping for that I have no idea how to cash out on Binance.


I'm assuming by your comment you have a 'Stop Order' in place? Without getting too deep into this, you're best bet is to exchange on Binance for ETH or BTC. Have a Coinbase account in place. Transfer from Binance to Coinbase. Sell on Coinbase into your USD wallet. Transfer from this wallet into your bank account. Done.

EDIT: I should also add, I would recommend you go the Ethereum route. The Bitcoin blockchain is a pain in the a@@ for transactions and transfers. It can take upwards to 2 hours. Ehtereum will be much much faster. There is no Litecoin option on Binance.
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Post#342 » by Throwback24 » Mon Jan 1, 2018 7:45 pm

Buy weed stocks.
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Re: OT: Investing - Stocks/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Crypto 

Post#343 » by Yeezus_ » Mon Jan 1, 2018 9:08 pm

bizarro wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:I just realized that if XRP hits the number I'm hoping for that I have no idea how to cash out on Binance.


I'm assuming by your comment you have a 'Stop Order' in place? Without getting too deep into this, you're best bet is to exchange on Binance for ETH or BTC. Have a Coinbase account in place. Transfer from Binance to Coinbase. Sell on Coinbase into your USD wallet. Transfer from this wallet into your bank account. Done.

EDIT: I should also add, I would recommend you go the Ethereum route. The Bitcoin blockchain is a pain in the a@@ for transactions and transfers. It can take upwards to 2 hours. Ehtereum will be much much faster. There is no Litecoin option on Binance.

And Ethereum provides lower fees in comparison to BTC
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Re: OT: Investing - Stocks/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Crypto 

Post#344 » by SupremeHustle » Mon Jan 1, 2018 9:29 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:
bizarro wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:I just realized that if XRP hits the number I'm hoping for that I have no idea how to cash out on Binance.


I'm assuming by your comment you have a 'Stop Order' in place? Without getting too deep into this, you're best bet is to exchange on Binance for ETH or BTC. Have a Coinbase account in place. Transfer from Binance to Coinbase. Sell on Coinbase into your USD wallet. Transfer from this wallet into your bank account. Done.

EDIT: I should also add, I would recommend you go the Ethereum route. The Bitcoin blockchain is a pain in the a@@ for transactions and transfers. It can take upwards to 2 hours. Ehtereum will be much much faster. There is no Litecoin option on Binance.

And Ethereum provides lower fees in comparison to BTC


Thanks, gents. I'll see you guys at the billionaire's boys club.
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Post#345 » by milwaukee bunks » Mon Jan 1, 2018 10:30 pm

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Post#346 » by bizarro » Tue Jan 2, 2018 7:58 am

I want to address the 'stock' community for a brief second to bring them on board with what I believe will inevitably happen in their 'industry'. I offer this to all of you as someone who learned how to buy stocks and create a stock portfolio when I was in the 4th grade. I've had a stock portfolio ever since and, built it over the course of my life. Five years ago, I began shifting my entire portfolio and philosophy. Take this for what it's worth: one man's opinion. I offer it to you here as nothing more than my opinion:

(I'm going to 'Spoiler' this as my share will take a few paragraphs)

Spoiler:
In 2015, Patrick Bryne (CEO of Overstock.com) gave a keynote address at the Mises Institute's Austrian Economics Research Conference. In his talk, he asked audience members to raise their hands if they owned any stock. Predictably, lots of hands shot into the air. However, they were extremely surprised when they heard his response to their hands:

Every single one of you with your hand up is incorrect -- none of you own any stock. That's not how the system works.


At the time, this gave me great pause. But, I continued to listen. He then went on to explain how the system of securities settlement in the U.S. has divorced the transfer of money from the transfer of securities. Anyone invested in the stock market has a broker -- either full-service or discount online broker -- who handles settlements for him or her. Most people think that these brokers move money and securities around between the accounts of buyers and sellers. Indeed, that's how the system did work prior to 1973.Back then, brokers would transfer physical stock certificates and keep real-time ownership records.

BUT, just as everything changed pre-WWI w/ the advent of the Federal Reserve system, to a lesser degree, everything changed in 1973 with the creation of The Depository Trust and Clearing Corporation (DTCC). Settlement for securities transactions in the US is now centralized here - in the DTCC - and all brokers involved in US financial markets are plumbed into this private organization.
So, in essence, money and securities do not actually move between the accounts of buyers and sellers. They move between accounts housed centrally within the DTCC. BUT, the system takes centralization one step further.

US stocks are registered in the name of an organization called Cede & Co., a subsidiary of the DTCC. This means Cede and Co.,
is the legal owner of the vast majority of all US equities. Unless you take the necessary steps to register a stock in your name,
you don't technically own it (this is the state of the significant portion of so called stockholders). What you actually own is a contractual right, or and IOU, to that stock. Actually, it's a bit more complicated than that.

Because there are several layers of counterparties involved, you really own a contractual right (your broker) to a contractual right (DTCC) to a contractual right (Cede & Co.) of the stock that appears in your brokerage account.

NOW, you may be thinking: "What the F***, bizarro! I just don't care!" And, that's all fine and good. But, I will contend: here's why you should...This system was set-up during a time when records were not kept in computer databases, but on pieces of paper in filing cabinets. Record keeping in the financial markets had become extremely costly, inefficient, and problematic. This was back in the 70's when mainframe computing was still the choice technology.

Regardless of intent, this system deliberately separates investors (you and I) from their ownership rights. Not to mention, this system is extremely inefficient and fragile, as it is based on 40 year-old technology. Well, guess what? Securities settlement--both in the equity markets and the credit markets--is a fantastic application for blockchain technology. The very same technology Bitcoin is based on and that is spreading through the world at breakneck speed. It's early. We're in the dial-up phase. But, make no mistake it is spreading like wildfire well-beyond the Bitcoin phenomenon.

The blockchain can return securities ownership directly to investors and enable peer-to-peer settlement in which the buyer sends money directly to the seller, who delivers the security directly to the buyer. P2P settlement on the blockchain renders high-frequency trading, front-running, and market manipulation nearly impossible. Here's the kicker -- if you move the financial markets onto the blockchain, then you cut 90% of the fed-backed crooks of Wall Street out of the picture entirely. And you make the SEC, FINRA (Financial Industry Regulatory Authority), and most of the financial regulatory apparatus obsolete. There's nothing for them to regulate because the blockchain cannot be gamed or corrupted.

If you cut out these intermediaries, then you also cut out most of the commissions, fees, taxes, ad overhead cost associated w/ the financial markets. These costs are relatively minor for each individual transaction, but greatly cumulative!

The DTCC settles nearly $2 qaudrillion (!!) in value every single year. That's an insane amout of value. Even if total settlement costs, including taxes, average five basis points per transaction (or 0.05%), we are still talking about more than $1 trillion in cumulative ommissions, fees, and taxes being sucked away by Wall Street and government's regulatory complex.

Imagine, if you will, what the world looks like if that $1 trillion worth of investable capital is left in the economy! You would witness an economic boom unprecedented before in human history...well, I propose, it is coming.

Blockchain is immense. It is huge. It isn't 'Bitcoin is going to fail because it isn't backed by anything'. This is the most preposterous thing I hear time in and again from those of us who just don't know what it is, why it is, or where it came from. The value in blockchain is simply too immense - the value in a system that is uncorruptible and entirely transparent. It really becomes questions of: will Bitcoin's limited scope and lagtime given its limited scope simply be bypassed by Ethereum and the Proof of Contract paradigm? will Ethereum be overtaken by the peer-reviewed but Ethereum-derived crypto 'Cardano'? How many more facets of global society will be impacted by this blockchain phenomenon? What about title rights of the so-called 3rd world (see the work of Bit Fury)? A De-Centralized mobile network (see Q Link)? A de-centralized internet server platform (See Substratum)? What about the welfare crisis? All of it and more will be addressed via blockchain, is being addressed by blockchain. Blockchain. Blockchain. Blockchain.

Did I mention blockchain?

So, if you're someone who can't leave their conventional paradigm, I get it. It's an unknown. It's too new. Hell, the internet didn't begin until 1989. Netscape didn't come about until 1994. We made it through the dial-up phase and then, bam, internet was everywhere seemingly overnight. It most certainly wasn't that way. Blockchain will be the same. Regardless, if you're going to stay strictly in the stock game at least do yourself the favor of seeing who the players are in that genre. Start with RIOT. Move from there.

My late night offering on the heels of the best start to a Packer non-playoff season in recent memory. Take it or leave it. My thoughts and my thoughts alone. Peace, brothers.
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Re: OT: Investing - Stocks/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Crypto 

Post#347 » by Iheartfootball » Tue Jan 2, 2018 3:20 pm

Throwback24 wrote:Buy weed.


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Post#348 » by Throwback24 » Tue Jan 2, 2018 4:41 pm

Iheartfootball wrote:
Throwback24 wrote:Buy weed.


FIFY


No sir. Invest in it. When people are smoking weed all around they could be lining your wallet.

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Post#349 » by M-C-G » Tue Jan 2, 2018 4:48 pm

Throwback24 wrote:
Iheartfootball wrote:
Throwback24 wrote:Buy weed.


FIFY


No sir. Invest in it. When people are smoking weed all around they could be lining your wallet.

Invest! I've got names in case you're interested


I've gotten into that market recently, but would be interested in where you are putting your money.
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Post#350 » by Throwback24 » Tue Jan 2, 2018 5:59 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Throwback24 wrote:
Iheartfootball wrote:
FIFY


No sir. Invest in it. When people are smoking weed all around they could be lining your wallet.

Invest! I've got names in case you're interested


I've gotten into that market recently, but would be interested in where you are putting your money.


Take a look at

MPXEF
PRMCF

Two companies I've made a lot of money on and believe long term.
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Re: OT: Investing - Stocks/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Crypto 

Post#351 » by M-C-G » Tue Jan 2, 2018 6:04 pm

Throwback24 wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
Throwback24 wrote:
No sir. Invest in it. When people are smoking weed all around they could be lining your wallet.

Invest! I've got names in case you're interested


I've gotten into that market recently, but would be interested in where you are putting your money.


Take a look at

MPXEF
PRMCF

Two companies I've made a lot of money on and believe long term.


Thanks, will do... I got into OGRMF and INSYS a couple of weeks back and looking to become more knowledgeable about long term plays.
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Post#352 » by Gant » Wed Jan 3, 2018 1:40 pm

I've heard some people invest in solid, well-managed, big name companies, with good valuations and good cash flow, that generally pay good dividends.

They do not speculate by constantly jumping in and out of stocks or mutual funds. They do not try to time the market. They let their investments grow over a very long term.

They do not invest in things they don't understand.

They avoid debt.

They have at least a year and a half's living expenses in cash (preferably more) so they won't have to sell into a market downturn.

They do not get giddy when the market has big gains, because they know corrections are normal. They do not panic when the market drops because they know the market rises over time.

They are highly diversified with a balanced portfolio invested in many sectors.

They do not take risks with money they cannot afford to lose.

They spend less than they make, preferably much less. They save, invest, ignore the world's crazy news, know time is their friend, and let everything grow, cycle after cycle, year after year, decade after decade.

Most of all, they are patient.
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Post#353 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jan 3, 2018 2:10 pm

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Re: OT: Investing - Stocks/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Crypto 

Post#354 » by crkone » Wed Jan 3, 2018 2:12 pm

Gant wrote:I've heard some people invest in solid, well-managed, big name companies, with good valuations and good cash flow, that generally pay good dividends.

They do not speculate by constantly jumping in and out of stocks or mutual funds. They do not try to time the market. They let their investments grow over a very long term.

They do not invest in things they don't understand.

They avoid debt.

They have at least a year and a half's living expenses in cash (preferably more) so they won't have to sell into a market downturn.

They do not get giddy when the market has big gains, because they know corrections are normal. They do not panic when the market drops because they know the market rises over time.

They are highly diversified with a balanced portfolio invested in many sectors.

They do not take risks with money they cannot afford to lose.

They spend less than they make, preferably much less. They save, invest, ignore the world's crazy news, know time is their friend, and let everything grow, cycle after cycle, year after year, decade after decade.

Most of all, they are patient.


This sounds like a facebook chain post. "Repost this within 5 minutes or you'll portfolio will become unbalanced by the end of the day!"

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Re: OT: Investing - Stocks/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Crypto 

Post#355 » by midranger » Wed Jan 3, 2018 3:13 pm

Gant wrote:I've heard some people invest in solid, well-managed, big name companies, with good valuations and good cash flow, that generally pay good dividends.

They do not speculate by constantly jumping in and out of stocks or mutual funds. They do not try to time the market. They let their investments grow over a very long term.

They do not invest in things they don't understand.

They avoid debt.

They have at least a year and a half's living expenses in cash (preferably more) so they won't have to sell into a market downturn.

They do not get giddy when the market has big gains, because they know corrections are normal. They do not panic when the market drops because they know the market rises over time.

They are highly diversified with a balanced portfolio invested in many sectors.

They do not take risks with money they cannot afford to lose.

They spend less than they make, preferably much less. They save, invest, ignore the world's crazy news, know time is their friend, and let everything grow, cycle after cycle, year after year, decade after decade.

Most of all, they are patient.



If you start down this road early, you will without doubt retire rich (at least a millionaire). When you'll retire rich depends largely on what percentage of your income you save vs spend. Start at 22 and sock away 20%, you be good by 60. Probably earlier.
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Post#356 » by skones » Wed Jan 3, 2018 4:17 pm

Ripple looks like its headed for another spike on Friday. Like clockwork over the last month.

EDIT: Guess it was announced that it would be added to Coinsquare, Canada's version of Coinbase. Could serve as a good indicator of the type of jump we should expect once it hits Coinbase itself.
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Post#357 » by Triple 7 » Wed Jan 3, 2018 4:33 pm

Take a look at

MPXEF
PRMCF

Two companies I've made a lot of money on and believe long term.



Both Ontario based companies, it's a trap! :lol:

Really though that industry is set to take off.
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Post#358 » by gbmb34 » Wed Jan 3, 2018 5:31 pm

I'm a believer in Ripple, but have seen a few guides about how to buy it but nothing definitive. Does anyone have any suggestions to minimize fees while also being relatively safe?
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Post#359 » by ackypoo » Wed Jan 3, 2018 5:40 pm

anyone buying any amd today? ayyyyyyyyyy emmmmmmmmm deeeeeeeeeee

https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/12/19/intels-ceo-just-sold-a-lot-of-stock.aspx
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Post#360 » by crkone » Wed Jan 3, 2018 6:12 pm

gbmb34 wrote:I'm a believer in Ripple, but have seen a few guides about how to buy it but nothing definitive. Does anyone have any suggestions to minimize fees while also being relatively safe?


Coinbase-deposit USD->GDAX-buy ETH->binance-ETH to XRP->Transfer to wallet of your choice

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