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Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018

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Post#341 » by xTitan » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:35 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Seeing a theme in some of these more recent trade proposals where we move either Mids or Jabari to get back guys who would provide critical roster depth and outside shooting. Just confirms how badly the front office has botched the draft and free agency the last three years that we are at this point.

Or how incredibly stupid the trade ideas are
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Post#342 » by coolhandluke121 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:01 pm

msiris wrote:Until we get rid of Kidd I think its pointless to make any moves.


I wouldn't quite say that. Regardless of who is the coach, Khris's utter disregard for conditioning and improving his body puts him at a huge risk of continued dramatic decline going forward. Love his potential to contribute to a winning formula here, but he's getting more and more like Redd every week.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#343 » by Gianstoppable » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:04 pm

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Gianstoppable wrote:Ok don't kill me.

Middleton and Delly for Tristian Thompson, Jae Crowder and the Nets pick. Even though the Nets pick won't likely be top 4 it should be lottery at least and if our pick does stay here we can possibly package a deal to move up. Absorbing TT should be worth Crowder and Middleton is worth the Nets pick, Delly matches salaries and goes back to play with LeBron


Yeah Cavs wouldn't go for that. You could maybe trade Middleton, Delly, and Thon for Triston, Shump, and the Nets pick. Don't know if the Bucks go for it. They might like Middleton and Thon too much. And the Cavs might want a superstar for the pick.


Cavs are nuts if they think they can get a superstar for that pick, the pick won't even be that great. Plus taking on Shump and Tristan?? No way. Nets are currently in the 9th spot in the draft
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Post#344 » by leroyjw10 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:05 pm

Just putting this here as a reminder on how difficult it’ll be to include a 1st rounder in any trades for likely a while.

http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/21750469/nba-trade-deadline-guide-all-30-teams

Restrictions/notes

Tony Snell cannot be traded until Jan. 15 and recently signed Sean Kilpatrick cannot be traded. Jason Terry has veto power based on signing a one-year contract.

The Bucks are $4.3 million below the luxury tax and can only send out $3.2 million in a trade.

The trade for Eric Bledsoe has Milwaukee restricted on trading a future first-round pick. Because the protection to Phoenix extends to 2021, Milwaukee would not be allowed to trade a first until 2023 or two years after the pick to the Suns is conveyed.

But hey!, only two more days until we can trade Snell.
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Post#345 » by AZumwalt » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:15 pm

Snell isn't going anywhere. Middleton is the one that needs to go. He very good when others get him open looks but he takes way too many **** shots (Am I allowed to say **** or will the refs kick me out) and is a terrible ISO player.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#346 » by msiris » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:11 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:
msiris wrote:Until we get rid of Kidd I think its pointless to make any moves.


I wouldn't quite say that. Regardless of who is the coach, Khris's utter disregard for conditioning and improving his body puts him at a huge risk of continued dramatic decline going forward. Love his potential to contribute to a winning formula here, but he's getting more and more like Redd every week.
I just have a feeling that Middleton is Kidds favorite player. Just a hunch. I agree with you. but I do not trust the Bucks to do the right thing with Kidd being friends with the owners.
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Post#347 » by Tfence92 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:47 pm

leroyjw10 wrote:Just putting this here as a reminder on how difficult it’ll be to include a 1st rounder in any trades for likely a while.

http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/21750469/nba-trade-deadline-guide-all-30-teams

The trade for Eric Bledsoe has Milwaukee restricted on trading a future first-round pick. Because the protection to Phoenix extends to 2021, Milwaukee would not be allowed to trade a first until 2023 or two years after the pick to the Suns is conveyed.


I don't have insider, so I can't read the article, but I dont think this is entirely true.

The pick to the suns has a giant number of protections each year, why couldn't we trade the protected part elsewhere? They would have to get creative, but I don't think it's not allowed.
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Post#348 » by Chuck Diesel » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:49 pm

Middleton & Thon for Bojan & Sabonis.
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Post#349 » by Bucknado » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:55 pm

Somewhere Herb Kohl is feeding the geese to the thought of trading for Ers and signing Bogut and Sessions.
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Post#350 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:00 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:Middleton & Thon for Bojan & Sabonis.


This makes me sad. And Pritchard also politely hangs up the phone.
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Post#352 » by Badgerlander » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:30 pm

After last nights game we should look to add Geo Hill
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Post#353 » by bizarro » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:58 pm

I visit this thread daily to simply ponder the recurring question:

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Post#354 » by coolhandluke121 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:11 pm

msiris wrote:I just have a feeling that Middleton is Kidds favorite player. Just a hunch. I agree with you. but I do not trust the Bucks to do the right thing with Kidd being friends with the owners.


No doubt. Khris basically saved his sorry ass coaching career several years ago. Kidd was a joke as Brooklyn's coach and was well on his way to being a trivia question (as a coach, like Sid as a broadcaster). Then people gave him a lot of credit for what Dudley, Zaza, Ersan, Mayo, Knight, Giannis, and especially Khris accomplished in 2015 after Jabari got hurt and Sanders fell apart and most people assumed the Bucks would lose close to 60 games.

It was just one of those weird combinations where the whole was much greater than the sum of the parts. Mayo of all people was a leader, Knight was 50 points above his career 3% on high volume, Zaza had his best year since 2007, Dudley bounced back after being a salary dump the year before, Ersan bounced back, Henson was a decent backup big in a contract year, and everyone's skills complemented everyone else's really well. But most of all, Khris emerged as a likely future two-way star.

Have you guys ever noticed that the coach always get way too much credit when that happens? It's like people don't understand that the whole can be greater than the sum of the parts and a team can "over-achieve" with no help from the coach, so they just assume there must have been something special the coach did to make it happen. Look at COTY votes in any sport and you'll always see the coach/manager of a team doing better much than expected get a ton of votes even if you can't point to a single thing he did right and the rest of his track record is awful.

Kidd is awful and he and Khris are loyal to each other and Lasry is loyal to Kidd and the whole thing makes me sick. I'd like to see if a decent coach could rein Khris in. It's also possible that Giannis will keep maturing into a leader and realize what needs to be done and, for lack of a more appropriate way to word my point, tear his god-damned head off.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#355 » by Triple 7 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:13 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:Middleton & Thon for Bojan & Sabonis.


Trading Middleton for the one SF in the entire league who has played worse defense this year. Eeesh. I still think I do it for the Sabonis upgrade. But Indiana blows in our ear before hanging up the phone.
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Post#356 » by Wisky4life » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:26 pm

Just waiting for the trade deadline, just wondering what the Bucks are offering these days.

Bucks: Favors, Frye, Dedmon and Bellinelli
Cavs: Delly
Hawks: Snell/Telly, Wilson and Osman
Jazz: Henson and Maker

Bucks: Get some playoff depth and can extend Favors and Parker in off-season
Cavs: DELLY!
Hawks: Get a good role player and 2 projects to go with young team
Jazz: Cheaper option than favors that is locked up for a few years and a young stud of a 1st rounder in Maker
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Post#357 » by midranger » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:29 pm

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Chuck Diesel wrote:Middleton & Thon for Bojan & Sabonis.


Trading Middleton for the one SF in the entire league who has played worse defense this year. Eeesh. I still think I do it for the Sabonis upgrade. But Indiana blows in our ear before hanging up the phone.

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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#358 » by jakecronus8 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:29 pm

Wisky4life wrote:Just waiting for the trade deadline, just wondering what the Bucks are offering these days.

Bucks: Favors, Frye, Dedmon and Bellinelli
Cavs: Delly
Hawks: Snell/Telly, Wilson and Osman
Jazz: Henson and Maker

Bucks: Get some playoff depth and can extend Favors and Parker in off-season
Cavs: DELLY!
Hawks: Get a good role player and 2 projects to go with young team
Jazz: Cheaper option than favors that is locked up for a few years and a young stud of a 1st rounder in Maker


Really bad for Cleveland. No incentive whatsoever.
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Post#359 » by Chapter29 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:36 pm

Gianstoppable wrote:Ok don't kill me.

Middleton and Delly for Tristian Thompson, Jae Crowder and the Nets pick. Even though the Nets pick won't likely be top 4 it should be lottery at least and if our pick does stay here we can possibly package a deal to move up. Absorbing TT should be worth Crowder and Middleton is worth the Nets pick, Delly matches salaries and goes back to play with LeBron


Done. Flip that pick.
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Post#360 » by Wisky4life » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:36 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:
Wisky4life wrote:


Really bad for Cleveland. No incentive whatsoever.


Lebron getting Delly back is the Kryptonite toward beating Golden State. He needs him more than ever.
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