sdn40 wrote:humanrefutation wrote:sdn40 wrote:
As would I. Unfortunately that wasn't the point I was making and someone decided to run with it
You said he wasn't worth it and he was a franchise killer. I think we got your point. It just wasn't a very good one.
Yes. That's exactly what I said -- exactly. I'd come back with an emoji or meme but I'm over it. Others got what I was saying - just not you
Yup, that's what you said. Exactly.
LeBron is fast becoming not worth the trouble. Dare I say franchise killer
So, we're in agreement there.
You think his win-now mandate isn't worth the trouble and makes him a franchise killer. It's not a complicated or complex point. It's just flawed to the point of absurdity for the reasons multiple people have expressed here.
You can argue that the Cavs should focus on the long run, and that's fine. I wouldn't even dispute that point in all circumstances - I wouldn't dump the Brooklyn pick for a short-term contract, for example.
But to call LeBron a franchise killer? Let's see how many teams would turn down the opportunity to have their franchise killed by him. I'm sure Dan Gilbert, who has watched the value of his Cavaliers skyrocket since LeBron has come to Cleveland, really feels like LeBron killed them with his desire to win championships. I'm sure Miami is thrilled that they've rid themselves of LeBron after going from a finals contender to an also-ran the moment he went back to Cleveland.
The Bulls collapsed when Jordan left. The Lakers collapsed post-Shaq and then as Kobe declined. That's the cost of having a superstar in their prime. You have to make the most of it while you still can.