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Re: PG: Bucks on the Brink 

Post#341 » by SupremeHustle » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:01 am

It's time to try Diakite on KD.
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Post#342 » by HurricaneKid » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:02 am

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DingleJerry wrote:Don't forget much of that KD stretch was them screening Brook onto KD and KD just cooking him every time. Seemed like he was laughing his was back down the court. With DDV I wonder if they could've then gone small.

For the Giannis/KD. Have to remember he had 4 fouls and is prone to charges at all time especially with guys like Blake/Jim Harden flopping/baiting nonstop.

Just don't play Brook and/or trap every ball screen and voila, the Nets don't get to get whatever shot they want every time down the floor. It's literally super basic stuff. Bud is just not a natural coach, it's like he picked up on a bunch of concepts working for a great organization, but he looks totally lost beyond obvious macro level strategy and in game just isn't good.

I don't think Giannis can guard KD really because they will just ball screen him and Giannis gets all hung up on those and then they've got whatever switch they want or Durant is walking into an easy pullup before the switch comes.
And doubling him is what got Jeff Green over 1.000 eFG%.

The idea that there are easy fixes is just untrue. They just need to mix it up so they can't decide what to do ahead of time.

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Re: PG: Bucks on the Brink 

Post#343 » by yannis-akumpo » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:02 am

ABucksFan wrote:Now Giannis wants to guard KD? Im dying lol. You cant make this **** up lol.

That actually makes my blood boil. Classic Bucks tho. Wait till after they get completely embarrassed to make some kind of adjustment
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Post#344 » by DingleJerry » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:03 am

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yannis-akumpo wrote:Honestly after this season, I'm all for converting Giannis into a pure big man. Just remove that start at the 3pt line and try to attack from half court. Giannis can do that kind of stuff in transition but in halfcourt, he should have his ass in the paint at ALL times


Is there a Utah assistant HC candidate? Make him watch Gobert film all day long and copy it. Combine that with being the best open court player in the league and you're still an MVP candidate scoring 25+. But best part is it's replicable in the playoffs. somehow Gobert does this all night long and doesn't get 6 charges a game or fouls out often.

Gobert is playing with Mitchell. Giannis is playing with Khris.

Converting Giannis to a Gobert-like player would be a mistake in my opinion, unless you bring in Milwaukee a superstar to take on the responsibilities in offense.

I am not sure about today. Do people really feel that overall Giannis did not play well (I am not talking about specific plays, I am talking overall about his play tonight)? (Honest question btw)


Well obviously I've been on board with the real PG as my main thing for a while. But, Gobert has been doing this since before Mitchell and it works with guys like Clarkson, Conley, Rubio and even Jingles. You have to actually coach an offense around of course, that is just the trigger to get the ball moving around. Utah plays beautiful basketball in the 2012ish Spurs mold. Our idea was put shooters around Giannis and that is the same setup Utah has around Gobert. Though I agree we haven't done a good enough job at it, it's not like every guy we play isn't a capable 3pt shooter. Especially if your replace Brook with a wing/shooter of some kind.
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Re: PG: Bucks on the Brink 

Post#345 » by ridetheskies » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:04 am

I’m just going to have my memories erased. The Bucks are my Clementine.
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Post#346 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:04 am

CharityStripe34 wrote:This is the off-season where Gianni has to realize he's an actual big, an evolutionary PF and not this wannabe Point F hybrid crap he's trying to be. If he doesn't come to this realization to hit that next level (playing off-ball, posting up, developing a mid-range game/floater), I don't think he ever makes the Finals. Unless he leaves and joins another top 10 player or one miraculously comes here via trade or free-agency. He's in the middle of his prime, but his mental game sorely needs to catch up. As we all know, time flies quicker than we think.

if he wants to be a big he can start by not being the worst screen setting "big" in the Ieague. theres just so much he does that Iooks Ike hes never been coached. but you know he has been..... endIessIy. its just giannis. hes aIways going to be this version of what he is now. i see that so cIearIy. hes worth the supermax but i want somebody eIse to pay it and i want to search the Ieague and then gut that team and have those other pIayers be bucks and not pay them the supermax unIess they are true championship number 1's. paying a supermax to a guy who isnt capabIe of being a championship number 1 is ruinous
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Post#347 » by Jollay » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:05 am

greekbuck34 wrote:We win game 6 and go to Brooklyn for another try.

If KD manages to put 50 again on a adjusted defense and/or J,Green shoots like Ray Allen then good they deserve it.

If Bud does exactly the same crap without different looks at defense and with Jrue not attacking Harden on offense or Giannis not being used in PNRs or in the post and then we can finally kick him out and bring someone else.


I mean I hear you, but good luck Harris/Harden shooting 3-21 either...

And, God forbid Irving is ready by then.

We aint...got it. Probably ever.
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Post#348 » by mattg » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:05 am

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yannis-akumpo wrote:Honestly after this season, I'm all for converting Giannis into a pure big man. Just remove that start at the 3pt line and try to attack from half court. Giannis can do that kind of stuff in transition but in halfcourt, he should have his ass in the paint at ALL times


Is there a Utah assistant HC candidate? Make him watch Gobert film all day long and copy it. Combine that with being the best open court player in the league and you're still an MVP candidate scoring 25+. But best part is it's replicable in the playoffs. somehow Gobert does this all night long and doesn't get 6 charges a game or fouls out often.

Gobert is playing with Mitchell. Giannis is playing with Khris.

Converting Giannis to a Gobert-like player would be a mistake in my opinion, unless you bring in Milwaukee a superstar to take on the responsibilities in offense.

I am not sure about today. Do people really feel that overall Giannis did not play well (I am not talking about specific plays, I am talking overall about his play tonight)? (Honest question btw)

Giannis was good in the first and bad in the 2nd half. But it's the reasons he is bad that is frustrating. It is entirely his doing. He is the one choosing to not pass and ISO. He is the one jacking bad shots. He is the one missing FTs. He is the one bobbling passes. He is the one not hustling for loose balls.

Bud is absolute dog crap as a coach now, but at some point even with a bad coach it's on your league MVP to know better with basic decisions.
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Post#349 » by Fotis St » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:06 am

Sad to see us suffer like this.
I love you all Bucks fans.
I knew Bud needed to go last summer.
I was absolutely sure we needed to fire him mid season , when we were 30 games in and he had Jrue standing at the corner 3 or at the dunk spot.
I even started a poll that I kept it live and posting to fire him on every game even on wins.
Our team was never dominant for a long period of time this season, we were losing against good teams. Giannis FT new routine was a joke. Bud pulling his hair off after refs whistle the 10 sec FT violation is a disgrace to all our coaches and Giannis himself for thinking he will get away with it by his superstar status. So he started "cheating" the game and from his part he should be held responsible too. I was watching 2017-18 highlights and I liked Giannis mobility way more back then. Now it looks like he has grown more, more weight, like a fast Marjanovic or something. His layups looked alot better 2 years ago too.
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Post#350 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:07 am

durant wiII ruin giannis that far from the basket. better he stays on the rim weakside. make durant dupIicate this **** on tucker. i Iike those odds better
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Post#351 » by bucksfansince88 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:07 am

Giannis is so soft mentally, I cant believe his post game comments. no competitive fire. hes trying to stop you from winning a championship, your're a freak defensively and no letting your nuts hang and saying I gotta check him and slow him down
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Post#352 » by SIMMIES » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:08 am

[quote="mkegb"]Love how Harden and Blake can grab a defender with a hook and no call not once. And even called one on Brook with Harden. Disgusting.[/quote]


How about the countless times KD shoves PJ to get free to receive a pass?
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Post#353 » by yannis-akumpo » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:09 am

The defense on KD should be to have Giannis pick him and let him drive but stay at/near his hip. Don't try to stay in front of him, stay connected to his shooting hand and funnel him to Lopez. Kinda like what they were doing late in the game except with Giannis instead of Tucker or Middleton. That way even if KD pulls up, we have a Giannis contest. If he drives all the way, that's brook in front and GIannis from behind
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Post#354 » by BucksFanSD » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:09 am

SIMMIES wrote:Everyone on here wants Bud's head and I get that. But as I have said before, there are literally 16 other coaches on this team and your beloved Darvin is one of them. You mean to tell me not one of them can step up and tell Bud & the players to try any one of the myriad of fixes you all purport would solve some issues?? Like Bud has 100% total say and he refuses to listen to any coach's input.


We don't know and that's one of many reasons why we need to hire a head coach from outside the organization. I like Rick Carlisle myself if those rumors are true.
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Post#355 » by HKPackFan » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:09 am

0BobLobLaw0 wrote:That Giannis bobbled pass is the 2021 version of the 2001 Big Dog 8 foot jumper that rimmed out.



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Gimpy harden and kyrie out, up by 17pts, can close out the series game 6 at home.
Gimpy Embiid to get thru the Eastern finals.
Lebron and his super team out of the playoffs.

The best opportunity at a championship since 2001...And then you post this.


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Post#356 » by Brewhoopfan » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:10 am

TD75 wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:
yannis-akumpo wrote:Honestly after this season, I'm all for converting Giannis into a pure big man. Just remove that start at the 3pt line and try to attack from half court. Giannis can do that kind of stuff in transition but in halfcourt, he should have his ass in the paint at ALL times


Is there a Utah assistant HC candidate? Make him watch Gobert film all day long and copy it. Combine that with being the best open court player in the league and you're still an MVP candidate scoring 25+. But best part is it's replicable in the playoffs. somehow Gobert does this all night long and doesn't get 6 charges a game or fouls out often.

Gobert is playing with Mitchell. Giannis is playing with Khris.

Converting Giannis to a Gobert-like player would be a mistake in my opinion, unless you bring in Milwaukee a superstar to take on the responsibilities in offense.

I am not sure about today. Do people really feel that overall Giannis did not play well (I am not talking about specific plays, I am talking overall about his play tonight)? (Honest question btw)


Man, this isn't that hard. Let him push the ball in transition, and have him set a screen or work in the high or low post in obvious half court situations. If he can't figure out the obvious, then you could have a code phrase for him like "pass the **** ball."
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Post#357 » by Daver » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:10 am

As comedian Ron white says you can't fix stupid anyone hear buds post game omfg do we have any and I mean any buck reporters who have a ser of balls to ask bud anything but fluff questions.Reminds me so much of the packer reporters with MM
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Post#358 » by ABucksFan » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:12 am

Trae Young has shown more ability to be that guy this playoffs than Giannis ever has. Im sick even saying that.
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Post#359 » by DingleJerry » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:12 am

I just don't think you can put Giannis on KD until the last 4-5 mins and he has 4 fouls or less. Even then, one foul on D and a charge next time down and he's gone.
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Post#360 » by rilamann » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:13 am

Still can't believe Giannis settled for a fadeaway with Harden on him in a tie game with a minute and a half left. Your season and legacy is on the line and you settle that shot while being defended by a guy with a busted hamstring. Glad Barkley talked about it on inside in the NBA. Then you top it off by fumbling the ball with 20 seconds left. Unbelievable.
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