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#24 - MarJon Beauchamp - NEW POLL ADDED 12/4/23

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Post#341 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:03 pm

BuildingBucks wrote:For the people upset at this pick who did you want at 24? Jaden Hardy is who I wanted but MarJon to me is safer as far as being a playable piece and he was in my top 5 available at the time so there are no complaints from me.

I hated basically all of our recent draft picks, Donte included. This one is the first in a while I think positively of.

Whoever was drafted after him and turns out to be better will be the "I knew we should have picked ______________". Our 20/20 hindsight here is perfect. :lol:
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Post#342 » by CharityStripe34 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:08 pm

One item I forgot to add in my analysis earlier was that I'm a HUGE fan of a hooper with an afro (one of the reasons I like Jarrett Allen). This adds to the height/versatility and overall coolness factor. Major style points.
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Post#343 » by DingleJerry » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:10 pm

Yea at 24 it's tough to scream too much. I see what they're going for here and addresses an issue they had vs Boston. I still fall back to wanting shooting as priority but hopefully he can be coached up on it and I hope for the best. I probably would've went with TyTy with the pick, so that would be my only fill in the blank there. Other than him all these guys around him didn't jump out to me as some clear fit or better pick. Can see the Duke guy right after being more ready to play right now too, but they wanted the better athleticism I guess.
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Post#344 » by Matches Malone » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:16 pm

BuildingBucks wrote:For the people upset at this pick who did you want at 24? Jaden Hardy is who I wanted but MarJon to me is safer as far as being a playable piece and he was in my top 5 available at the time so there are no complaints from me.

I hated basically all of our recent draft picks, Donte included. This one is the first in a while I think positively of.


I still have nightmares of the DJ Wilson draft. I was distraught for weeks/months.
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Post#345 » by BucksFanSD » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:17 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:Does he have combine measurables? Curious how he tested out

6’6.5” in shoes, 7’0.75” wingspan, 8’10” standing reach.

He didn’t partake in the athletic testing.


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Very similar to Mattias Thybulle in terms of measurements. Their play is somewhat similar and I'm assuming they will have MB sit in corner three spot on offense similar to Thybulle.
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Post#346 » by Brewhoopfan » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:28 pm

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Dude talked at length about his mental problems dating from the onset of covid.

Fall the fk back.


This was pre-Covid.

And I'll never blame a kid for the adults in his life chasing greener grass.

So the adults are the red flag?


Possibly. If the adults in a child's life handle adversity (Not real adversity - the 'I'm not getting what I want' type) by constantly jumping ship, then yeah, red flag. For Marjon, he got some bad advice and went to Chameleon BX which led to some real adversity. Stability is important and so is character. Good, bad, or otherwise, it's all part of the story. The Bucks certainly think he's grown from the experience, and will have a chance to flourish in the Bucks culture. Hope he takes advantage.
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Post#347 » by BuildingBucks » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:29 pm

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BuildingBucks wrote:For the people upset at this pick who did you want at 24? Jaden Hardy is who I wanted but MarJon to me is safer as far as being a playable piece and he was in my top 5 available at the time so there are no complaints from me.

I hated basically all of our recent draft picks, Donte included. This one is the first in a while I think positively of.

Whoever was drafted after him and turns out to be better will be the "I knew we should have picked ______________". Our 20/20 hindsight here is perfect. :lol:


That is exactly why I want people to throw those names out there lol I spent a decent amount of time researching for this draft and don't think this pick is one to be upset at
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Post#348 » by BuildingBucks » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:32 pm

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BuildingBucks wrote:For the people upset at this pick who did you want at 24? Jaden Hardy is who I wanted but MarJon to me is safer as far as being a playable piece and he was in my top 5 available at the time so there are no complaints from me.

I hated basically all of our recent draft picks, Donte included. This one is the first in a while I think positively of.


I still have nightmares of the DJ Wilson draft. I was distraught for weeks/months.


The Donte pick specifically I was so underwhelmed, he was probably 10th best available to me at the time. Such an average pick. DJ Wilson however was HORRIBLE. That one upset me.
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Post#349 » by PG Graveyard » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:38 pm

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BuildingBucks wrote:For the people upset at this pick who did you want at 24? Jaden Hardy is who I wanted but MarJon to me is safer as far as being a playable piece and he was in my top 5 available at the time so there are no complaints from me.

I hated basically all of our recent draft picks, Donte included. This one is the first in a while I think positively of.


I still have nightmares of the DJ Wilson draft. I was distraught for weeks/months.


The Donte pick specifically I was so underwhelmed, he was probably 10th best available to me at the time. Such an average pick. DJ Wilson however was HORRIBLE. That one upset me.


Yeah that Wilson pick was so bad considering the no brainer picks that were sitting there....John Collins, Anunoby or even Dillon Brooks.
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Post#350 » by emunney » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:43 pm

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BuildingBucks wrote:For the people upset at this pick who did you want at 24? Jaden Hardy is who I wanted but MarJon to me is safer as far as being a playable piece and he was in my top 5 available at the time so there are no complaints from me.

I hated basically all of our recent draft picks, Donte included. This one is the first in a while I think positively of.


I still have nightmares of the DJ Wilson draft. I was distraught for weeks/months.


Yeah DJ was one of the only ones that upset me on the level of, like, signing Drew Gooden to a 5 year contract. He was the one guy I was actively warning against in that draft and there were a ton of really good prospects on the board. This one feels more like Donte, where it's not my guy but there's stuff to like. And frankly Donte was from day 1 a far different *type* of player than I expected him to be. Hoping for a similar outcome here.

Just as an addendum of humility from the DJ draft -- we were one slot away from me being INCENSED by passing on Justin Patton. And same story with Zhaire Smith in the Donte draft. So, you know. This year Roddy would have been the top guy left on my board if he hadn't gone to Memphis at 23.
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Post#351 » by Matches Malone » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:43 pm

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I still have nightmares of the DJ Wilson draft. I was distraught for weeks/months.


The Donte pick specifically I was so underwhelmed, he was probably 10th best available to me at the time. Such an average pick. DJ Wilson however was HORRIBLE. That one upset me.


Yeah that Wilson pick was so bad considering the no brainer picks that were sitting there....John Collins, Anunoby or even Dillon Brooks.


I was a big Bam Adebayo fan that year, especially after hearing rumors that we were enamored with him leading up to the draft. Then Miami decided to take him a bit sooner than most had him mocked that year.
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Post#352 » by DingleJerry » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:44 pm

DJ and Thon were horrible, panned at the time by most. Jabari is what it is. Vaughn, also could've been either way, super young, top prospect out of HS, should've been a shooter. Flopped but probably tough to just bash immediately. Could talk similarly about DDV too. But DJ and Thon were just laughers.
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Post#353 » by emunney » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:49 pm

Oh I hated the Shad pick, too. Was really into Tyus, Portis, Looney, and Delon Wright that year.
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Post#354 » by Dick Tate » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:53 pm

BuildingBucks wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
BuildingBucks wrote:For the people upset at this pick who did you want at 24? Jaden Hardy is who I wanted but MarJon to me is safer as far as being a playable piece and he was in my top 5 available at the time so there are no complaints from me.

I hated basically all of our recent draft picks, Donte included. This one is the first in a while I think positively of.

Whoever was drafted after him and turns out to be better will be the "I knew we should have picked ______________". Our 20/20 hindsight here is perfect. :lol:


That is exactly why I want people to throw those names out there lol I spent a decent amount of time researching for this draft and don't think this pick is one to be upset at

That's right. It isn't hindsight if I can bump this thread in two years and say, "See, I told you EJ Liddell was going to be somebody!" :)

Also agreed, no upset from me about this pick.
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Post#355 » by Swan Vox » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:56 pm

This guy feels like the anti-Nwora, and I am here for it.
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Post#356 » by msiris » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:59 pm

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BuildingBucks wrote:For the people upset at this pick who did you want at 24? Jaden Hardy is who I wanted but MarJon to me is safer as far as being a playable piece and he was in my top 5 available at the time so there are no complaints from me.

I hated basically all of our recent draft picks, Donte included. This one is the first in a while I think positively of.

Whoever was drafted after him and turns out to be better will be the "I knew we should have picked ______________". Our 20/20 hindsight here is perfect. :lol:

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Post#357 » by SirChurros » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:07 pm

BuildingBucks wrote:For the people upset at this pick who did you want at 24? Jaden Hardy is who I wanted but MarJon to me is safer as far as being a playable piece and he was in my top 5 available at the time so there are no complaints from me.

I hated basically all of our recent draft picks, Donte included. This one is the first in a while I think positively of.

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Post#358 » by BuildingBucks » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:08 pm

At the time of the pick my top 5 best available in order were:

Jaden Hardy
Ryan Rollins
Gabriele Procida
MarJon Beauchamp
Blake Wesley

If we wanted to be overly critical of the pick, MarJon needs a lot of work offensively. His mid range shooting % was pretty solid, FT % not so much but I believe the G League has a strange FT rule correct? Where they get one shot and it's worth 2. He doesn't have an ability to create his own shot. Some Ignite games I watched it looked like he struggled to fight through screens.

Positives are his jumper looks fixable, he has touch. The way he runs on a fast break with or without the ball will translate very well to the NBA. Athletic, perfect size for a wing. Defensively both on ball and help defense he should be solid. Moves laterally pretty well.

He is going to learn a lot from Khris. Those two I hope are able to spend a lot of time working out together.
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Post#359 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:12 pm

It's like we were traumatized by the failings of Thon and Rashad Vaughn while hitting on Brogdon that we now see ourselves as 'above' looking for well-scouted, high-risk high reward/value picks. Only problem was as mentioned, we chose DJ Wilson ahead of several fringe/all-star players that year--we're passing up star talent. We're not building for now and the future like GSW, we are continuously going down the path of trying to complement Giannis without raising the team's ceiling. Since we will not have a lot of our own picks going forward for a while, this is harder to swallow as a strategy since we are not continuing to maximize our assets.
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Post#360 » by machu46 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:16 pm

emunney wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
BuildingBucks wrote:For the people upset at this pick who did you want at 24? Jaden Hardy is who I wanted but MarJon to me is safer as far as being a playable piece and he was in my top 5 available at the time so there are no complaints from me.

I hated basically all of our recent draft picks, Donte included. This one is the first in a while I think positively of.


I still have nightmares of the DJ Wilson draft. I was distraught for weeks/months.


Yeah DJ was one of the only ones that upset me on the level of, like, signing Drew Gooden to a 5 year contract. He was the one guy I was actively warning against in that draft and there were a ton of really good prospects on the board. This one feels more like Donte, where it's not my guy but there's stuff to like. And frankly Donte was from day 1 a far different *type* of player than I expected him to be. Hoping for a similar outcome here.

Just as an addendum of humility from the DJ draft -- we were one slot away from me being INCENSED by passing on Justin Patton. And same story with Zhaire Smith in the Donte draft. So, you know. This year Roddy would have been the top guy left on my board if he hadn't gone to Memphis at 23.

I hated who I thought Donte was and quickly realized I was wrong on him. Shame the jumper never really came around/he couldn’t stay healthy.

Wilson was so bad I hadn’t even considered him a possibility with our pick.

Beauchamp was probably my favorite prospect throughout the draft cycle; the first guy that really drew me in this year.


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