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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#341 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:18 pm

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Because if you get to the finals and want to win a title, you’d rather have the guy AD than the guy with two 40 point games, a 50 point game, and a finals MVP? The guy who made one of the greatest defensive plays ever in the finals?

If you want to win a title, Giannis >>>>>>> AD.


yeah but we suck this year with giannis playing that way right?

team construction matters. you can agree or disagree but next to a dame or a kyrie im just gonna say that a HOFer big that doesnt need the ball on lead leading usage might be the better HOFer big. that isnt a hard concept either right?


Giannis always deferred to Midds when it mattered. He’s let Dame initiate in late game spots. He’d let Kyrie as well.

Giannis is a much better player than AD. that isnt a hard concept either right?


youre higher on giannis than i am right now. lets leave it at that
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#342 » by drew881 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:25 pm

humanrefutation wrote:Interested to read that AD waived his trade kicker to facilitate the trade. I figured he'd be annoyed to have to leave LA, but apparently he must have wanted out, too.


How much is the trade kicker? Probably makes back that money in Texas with half his games not being taxed by the state.

Also makes sense for him if he knows LeBron is retiring soon and will be on a team that isn’t rebuilding.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#343 » by Dick Tate » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:25 pm

If this corruption is due to the owners not wanting expansion and this is their way to get a team to Vegas, then moving the Blazers to Seattle as the counter move... I gotta be ok with that. :thumbsup:
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#344 » by stellation » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:27 pm

Lukakers sounds like some old school slang. “Don’t get your Lukakers in a knot!” “POW, it hit him right in the Lukakers!” And so on and so forth…
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#345 » by drew881 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:28 pm

stellation wrote:Lukakers sounds like some old school slang. “Don’t get your Lukakers in a knot!” “POW, it hit him right in the Lukakers!” And so on and so forth…


We could call them Lukake with the number of shots that are gonna go up.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#346 » by trwi7 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:30 pm

stellation wrote:Lukakers sounds like some old school slang. “Don’t get your Lukakers in a knot!” “POW, it hit him right in the Lukakers!” And so on and so forth…


Sounds like a bunch of guys finishing on Silver's face.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#347 » by stellation » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:34 pm

Oh, you boys! I feel so innocent!


(oh god, that’ll give them even more ideas!)
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Post#348 » by SupremeHustle » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:40 pm

They're saying this is why he got traded, but he just looks more American now.

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Post#349 » by blazza18 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:41 pm

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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#350 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:41 pm

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humanrefutation wrote:Interested to read that AD waived his trade kicker to facilitate the trade. I figured he'd be annoyed to have to leave LA, but apparently he must have wanted out, too.


How much is the trade kicker? Probably makes back that money in Texas with half his games not being taxed by the state.

Also makes sense for him if he knows LeBron is retiring soon and will be on a team that isn’t rebuilding.

I thought it was $6m. idk. it means he's knew before anyone else though. I don't they went up to him and be like we just traded you to the Mavs, can you do us a solid and waive the trade kicker?
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#351 » by MiltownMadness » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:42 pm

Luka being a chub benefits him, he is like Fat Lebron in the way he can get any spot on the court using his literal gravity. Players orbit around him
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#352 » by humanrefutation » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:44 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:They're saying this is why he got traded, but he just looks more American now.

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That may be a rationale for trading Luka instead of extending him. You never know what's going on behind the scenes, too.

I'm just not sure what the rationale is for not shopping him around the league. There are probably a dozen different trade scenarios that would have fielded the Mavs better compensation.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#353 » by tydett » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:45 pm

humanrefutation wrote:I saw this morning that the Mavs apparently approached another team three weeks ago offering Doncic for another star, only to be rebuffed. Makes me wonder if that's the Bucks.


If I had to guess, maybe Ja? Ask for Ja and some of their bench players, get rejected.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#354 » by engelmartin » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:47 pm

Yeah it was probably Ja. Giannis is easily preferable to AD
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#355 » by humanrefutation » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:47 pm

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humanrefutation wrote:I saw this morning that the Mavs apparently approached another team three weeks ago offering Doncic for another star, only to be rebuffed. Makes me wonder if that's the Bucks.


If I had to guess, maybe Ja? Ask for Ja and some of their bench players, get rejected.


Ja and Kyrie don't work. For that same reason, I assume that it isn't any other guard out there.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#356 » by stellation » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:48 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:They're saying this is why he got traded, but he just looks more American now.

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I mean, if he wanted some anonymity and to just be able to walk around in public and blend in Milwaukee would have been way better than LA.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#357 » by humanrefutation » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:52 pm

I would have offered Dallas everything on the roster but Giannis, FWIW. I think Dallas could have done better elsewhere, though.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#358 » by Frank Nova » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:53 pm

The new owners must’ve really had issues with Luka. That trade cost him 116m in potential earnings on his next contract, that’s diabolical stuff.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#359 » by StickeeFingaz » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:54 pm

And Mavs fans have a pompous **** GM cracking jokes at a press conference when he just traded the face of their franchise, I feel sick for them. Have some decency.

Then the cherry on top is of course acknowledging that the Lakers, going nowhere, suddenly find themselves with another generational talent that’s just entering his prime. Like wtf.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#360 » by skbucks1985 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:55 pm

tydett wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:I saw this morning that the Mavs apparently approached another team three weeks ago offering Doncic for another star, only to be rebuffed. Makes me wonder if that's the Bucks.


If I had to guess, maybe Ja? Ask for Ja and some of their bench players, get rejected.


I'd bet against that. I think a not insignificant part of this move was going all-in on Kyrie as the primary ballhandler.

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