CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #361 » by **Buck You** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:52 am

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... For-Mozgov

Let's get in on this and offer daly for the same deal.

Bucks4Milwaukee · Post #362 » by **Bucks4Milwaukee** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:56 am

I just cant believe there is so many pages talking about this chump! We could easily get Lamb and Granger AFTER getting Josh Smith all while keeping Jennings till the end of the year! WTF are moves not being made to get proven players and youth and picks!? We have the tools to make it all happen now! We dont make moves this deadline we will miss out on our chance to turn this garbage we call a team!

blazza18 · Post #363 » by **blazza18** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:00 am

What makes JJ Redick a chump exactly ? Any contending team would love him on their roster.

Now he's not a move a team like we should make but he's hardly a bad player.

DWagner85 · Post #364 » by **DWagner85** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:11 am

blazza18 wrote:What makes JJ Redick a chump exactly ? Any contending team would love him on their roster.

Now he's not a move a team like we should make but he's hardly a bad player.

I agree he is hardly a bad player, but tonight was a prime example, once our defense improved, so did our offense. If we deal Moute, we very well could become the worst defense in the league. And he has been aggressive to the hoop this year, I do not see why we need to include a first round pick, with a player who is more valuable to our team to begin with.

SkilesTheLimit · Post #365 » by **SkilesTheLimit** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:12 am

New RealGM headline:

Redick To Seek $10M Annual Deal In Free Agency

....and Orlando is only willing to give him $5 mil per year.

Good luck with that, JJ.

Post #366 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:17 am

DWagner85 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:What makes JJ Redick a chump exactly ? Any contending team would love him on their roster.

Now he's not a move a team like we should make but he's hardly a bad player.

I agree he is hardly a bad player, but tonight was a prime example, once our defense improved, so did our offense. If we deal Moute, we very well could become the worst defense in the league. And he has been aggressive to the hoop this year, I do not see why we need to include a first round pick, with a player who is more valuable to our team to begin with.

I guess there could be hope for you some day. I mean most of us were pretty bad here early. I'm rooting for you.

Post #367 » by **humanrefutation** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:24 am

DrugBust wrote:
DWagner85 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:What makes JJ Redick a chump exactly ? Any contending team would love him on their roster.

Now he's not a move a team like we should make but he's hardly a bad player.

I agree he is hardly a bad player, but tonight was a prime example, once our defense improved, so did our offense. If we deal Moute, we very well could become the worst defense in the league. And he has been aggressive to the hoop this year, I do not see why we need to include a first round pick, with a player who is more valuable to our team to begin with.

I guess there could be hope for you some day. I mean most of us were pretty bad here early. I'm rooting for you.

Beas · Post #368 » by **Beas** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:28 am

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... ree-Agency

lol I like the idea of getting Redick even less by the second

Post #369 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:36 am

To be fair, $5 million a year is even more insane.

Redick is an above average player off his rookie contract. That already puts him in the $8-$9 million a year range. When you look at what a SG like DeRozan got, a clearly inferior player, the only argument against is age and Redick's game isn't going to be killed because of a serious drop in athleticism in his 30s.

I wouldn't give him that much money, but if i was one piece away from contending and he was out there I'd consider it. As it stands I'd probably bring him here for $7.5 a season if we couldn't draft or trade for a younger solution.

Wooderson · Post #370 » by **Wooderson** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:43 am

DWagner85 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:What makes JJ Redick a chump exactly ? Any contending team would love him on their roster.

Now he's not a move a team like we should make but he's hardly a bad player.

I agree he is hardly a bad player, but tonight was a prime example, once our defense improved, so did our offense. If we deal Moute, we very well could become the worst defense in the league. And he has been aggressive to the hoop this year, I do not see why we need to include a first round pick, with a player who is more valuable to our team to begin with.

Sanders has the biggest impact on the teams D by far, and right now we have a top 10 defense in the league.

Bucks4Milwaukee · Post #371 » by **Bucks4Milwaukee** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:45 am

blazza18 wrote:What makes JJ Redick a chump exactly ? Any contending team would love him on their roster.

Now he's not a move a team like we should make but he's hardly a bad player.

Ok, maybe not a chump if we are one of the top 6 teams in the league... But no place for him on our roster. Let alone trade a player that could get us a good young talent or pick for. He, IMO, can't do what dunleavy can do for us...so a chump, you're right, he is not... Worth anything more than Gooden, he is not.

DWagner85 · Post #372 » by **DWagner85** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:48 am

Bucks4Milwaukee wrote:
blazza18 wrote:What makes JJ Redick a chump exactly ? Any contending team would love him on their roster.

Now he's not a move a team like we should make but he's hardly a bad player.

Ok, maybe not a chump if we are one of the top 6 teams in the league... But no place for him on our roster. Let alone trade a player that could get us a good young talent or pick for. He, IMO, can't do what dunleavy can do for us...so a chump, you're right, he is not... Worth anything more than Gooden, he is not.

I feel media tried to spice it up, and that we did offer up Gooden and our first, that sounds much more plausible.

Garbs_7 · Post #373 » by **Garbs_7** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:01 am

Of course JJ's agent would ask for 10 mil, should be sacked if he doesn't. ORL say 5, his agent says 10 they meet around 8.

Standard negotiation.

Bucks4Milwaukee · Post #374 » by **Bucks4Milwaukee** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:07 am

I'd only trade our first if we were getting a first back in another trade as well... There's just so much the bucks can do this deadline, if we get smith and redick, and that's it...and trade out first... Will be a very sad day in bucks history

Godgers · Post #375 » by **Godgers** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:16 am

Don't know if this was posted in this thread as I read most of the 25 pages but missed a few and im not going to read everything again.

From espn insider....

Milwaukee's offer for J.J. Redick

February, 19, 2013
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If the report is true, Milwaukee's offer for J.J. Redick could be enough for Orlando to agree to the deal.

According to this tweet Ken Berger of CBSSports.com, sources indicate that the Bucks have offered Luc Mbah a Moute and a first-round pick for the Magic's sharpshooter. Truthfully, it's hard to envision Orlando getting a whole lot more for Redick than what the Bucks are offering.

It's unclear if the first-round pick in the Bucks' offer is for 2013 or includes any protection. But if it's an unprotected first-rounder in 2013 that'd potentially give the Magic a pick somewhere in the mid-teens, where guys like C.J. McCollum, Jamal Franklin, Archie Goodwin, Alex Poythress and Glenn Robinson III could all be available.

Considering that Milwaukee is currently the No. 8 seed in the East and Redick is an unrestricted free agent after the season, this seems like a rather large gamble by the Bucks. The only way it'd make a whole lot of sense is if the Bucks can lock up Redick with a long-term deal, which is somewhat doubtful given the team's history in free agency and what will probably be a strong market for Redick.

DanoMac · Post #376 » by **DanoMac** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:17 am

Godgers wrote:Don't know if this was posted in this thread as I read most of the 25 pages but missed a few and im not going to read everything again.

From espn insider....

Milwaukee's offer for J.J. Redick

February, 19, 2013
Feb 19

2:11

PM ET

By Joe Kaiser | ESPN.com
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If the report is true, Milwaukee's offer for J.J. Redick could be enough for Orlando to agree to the deal.

According to this tweet Ken Berger of CBSSports.com, sources indicate that the Bucks have offered Luc Mbah a Moute and a first-round pick for the Magic's sharpshooter. Truthfully, it's hard to envision Orlando getting a whole lot more for Redick than what the Bucks are offering.

It's unclear if the first-round pick in the Bucks' offer is for 2013 or includes any protection. But if it's an unprotected first-rounder in 2013 that'd potentially give the Magic a pick somewhere in the mid-teens, where guys like C.J. McCollum, Jamal Franklin, Archie Goodwin, Alex Poythress and Glenn Robinson III could all be available.

Considering that Milwaukee is currently the No. 8 seed in the East and Redick is an unrestricted free agent after the season, this seems like a rather large gamble by the Bucks. The only way it'd make a whole lot of sense is if the Bucks can lock up Redick with a long-term deal, which is somewhat doubtful given the team's history in free agency and what will probably be a strong market for Redick.

EDIT: Nevermind...didn't see it was an ESPN insider article. Thanks for posting sir. Nothing really new though.

whatthe_buck!? · Post #377 » by **whatthe_buck!?** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:18 am

Bucks4Milwaukee wrote:I'd only trade our first if we were getting a first back in another trade as well... There's just so much the bucks can do this deadline, if we get smith and redick, and that's it...and trade out first... Will be a very sad day in bucks history

Thank u for posting and proving that sometimes ballboys can be on point and show good sensibility. Good post bucks4milwaukee.

Turd Ferguson · Post #378 » by **Turd Ferguson** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:25 am

Wooderson wrote:
DWagner85 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:What makes JJ Redick a chump exactly ? Any contending team would love him on their roster.

Now he's not a move a team like we should make but he's hardly a bad player.

I agree he is hardly a bad player, but tonight was a prime example, once our defense improved, so did our offense. If we deal Moute, we very well could become the worst defense in the league. And he has been aggressive to the hoop this year, I do not see why we need to include a first round pick, with a player who is more valuable to our team to begin with.

Sanders has the biggest impact on the teams D by far, and right now we have a top 10 defense in the league.

With the rate opponents would get to the basket and Larry's inability to remain grounded, he'd foul out in all of 20 minutes every game.

Turd Ferguson · Post #379 » by **Turd Ferguson** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:30 am

And I would take any one of those guys listed in the ESPN Insider article over signing Reddick to some crap deal just to unload Moute. Can't believe the playoff push is still going strong with our FO...

Wooderson · Post #380 » by **Wooderson** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:53 am

Turd Ferguson wrote:With the rate opponents would get to the basket and Larry's inability to remain grounded, he'd foul out in all of 20 minutes every game.

It's true that our perimeter defense would go from below average to piss poor if you swapped Dunleav for Moute without any other changes. But it seems like a Redick trade wouldn't happen by itself, and would be part of a bigger plan that maybe includes Smith.

Also, Larry's done a much better job the last few months at picking his spots and avoiding bad fouls. Last year it was obviously a huge problem, and he was much too aggressive starting out the year in November. But since December he's been at ~4.5 PF per 36. Still needs to work on it, but he's definitely improving.

Edit: Looking back at it, Moute was out all of November, where Sanders was dealing with more foul trouble. So there's definite evidence to back up the claim that Moute is a big help to Sanders. However, I don't think even this front office is dumb enough to do a Redick for Moute deal while keeping Ellis. No way they can play both of them on the floor together. Right??