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Godgers wrote:Max Bledsoe lol. So many people just want to throw away the future just for a few more wins that mean nothing, and will hurt the teams future.
How about building through the draft and enjoying watching our young players grow and getting a nice lotto pick for the next few years to build the team with.
VooDoo7 wrote:JEIS wrote:
Kidd would have curb stomped him.
Maybe if his name was Denise instead of Dennis.
Fotis St wrote:Wherever you are David, I love you man.
LUKE23 wrote:I'd be fine moving forward with a Bledsoe/Giannis/Parker/Sanders core. I think all four of those guys have a chance to play in an all-star game. If we aren't going to land a Durant/LeBron type talent, that's the way to go. All four of those guys enter next season 25 or under.
Also, I don't understand the point of trading good young players if they "aren't a core piece"? What does that even mean? Do they have to be an all-star to fit that definition? At some point, we need to see what we have with the young talent while trying to win games. Constant shuffling of the roster just resets that year after year after year.
Anyone who wouldn't be excited about a Bledsoe/Giannis/Parker/Sanders core to me is crazy though. That core has mega potential.
Godgers wrote:Max Bledsoe lol. So many people just want to throw away the future just for a few more wins that mean nothing, and will hurt the teams future.
How about building through the draft and enjoying watching our young players grow and getting a nice lotto pick for the next few years to build the team with.
Fan from Dade wrote:If you're gonna look at bringing in a "true PG" then looking at Bledsoe makes no sense. He is the same type of player that Knight is and injury prone. To give him a max would be lunacy. He averages 3.3 turnovers a game and 5.5 assist in 33 mins. He is just a highlight reel in terms of a true PG. Now, I like him as a player but he isn't all that different from whats already here. That just doesn't add up. He may be a smokescreen.
Lin is ok but his defense is terrible. Ball Defense that is; he does ok in the passing lanes and off the ball. Could be decent enough to come over but he ends up coming off the bench. But his contract. Would have to get a 1st with him. 4.1 assist and 2.5 turnovers in 29 minutes.
Vasquez, is the better player for the Bucks here. He can play in a two PG set if need be and fits also if you want to play him as the primary ball handler with Knight off the ball. His defense isn't nearly as bad as it's made out to be and he isn't a turnover machine. Not sure where that comes from; he averaged 1.6 per game. And heh as proven that he can be a starter in this league.
LUKE23 wrote:If that happens, Parker/Giannis aren't as good as hoped and we are screwed anyway.
To me, you have to place odds you land a better PG than Bledsoe in the next few years into the equation. I'd put them at less than 20%.
CaptainAwesome wrote:Fan from Dade wrote:If you're gonna look at bringing in a "true PG" then looking at Bledsoe makes no sense. He is the same type of player that Knight is and injury prone. To give him a max would be lunacy. He averages 3.3 turnovers a game and 5.5 assist in 33 mins. He is just a highlight reel in terms of a true PG. Now, I like him as a player but he isn't all that different from whats already here. That just doesn't add up. He may be a smokescreen.
Lin is ok but his defense is terrible. Ball Defense that is; he does ok in the passing lanes and off the ball. Could be decent enough to come over but he ends up coming off the bench. But his contract. Would have to get a 1st with him. 4.1 assist and 2.5 turnovers in 29 minutes.
Vasquez, is the better player for the Bucks here. He can play in a two PG set if need be and fits also if you want to play him as the primary ball handler with Knight off the ball. His defense isn't nearly as bad as it's made out to be and he isn't a turnover machine. Not sure where that comes from; he averaged 1.6 per game. And heh as proven that he can be a starter in this league.
... BTW, who did Bledsoe play next to last year in PHO...?
I don't think Bledsoe would be a problem in 2 PG sets with Knight.
LUKE23 wrote:If that happens, Parker/Giannis aren't as good as hoped and we are screwed anyway.
To me, you have to place odds you land a better PG than Bledsoe in the next few years into the equation. I'd put them at less than 20%.
White+Purple wrote:Top five pick would have been easy.
Tavares-Jabari-Giannis-Inglis-Knight; don't sign Kidd.
LUKE23 wrote:White+Purple wrote:Top five pick would have been easy.
Tavares-Jabari-Giannis-Inglis-Knight; don't sign Kidd.
So we don't play Sanders?
MrPerfect1 wrote:RRyder823 wrote:MrPerfect1 wrote:
We can have 4 potential All Stars merely by sucking again and getting 1 more top 3-5 pick.
I just do not see why we would rather have a 24 year old, coming off of a devastating injury, making 15 mil potential All Star instead of a 19 year old, completely healthy potential All Star who is making like 3 mil.
Because I don't think there's anyway we're picking in the top 5 next year without one hell of a lucky ping pong ball bounce with or without Bledsoe. It took a perfect storm for the Bucks to be as bad as they were last year. Added development from Wolters, Middleton, Knight, Henson and Giannis coupled with Sanders coming back and hopefully a much better coach I don't see anyway barring injury's that this team is picking in the top 5. In fact you can make the argument that unless we pick #1 overall then we're going to have to move Sanders for pennies on the dollar considering theres a good chance we'd most likely be drafting a big that high if Mudiay is off the board. And as of right now Mudiay is the only one that has me intrigued when it comes to potential Bucks
But like I said I don't think the Bucks will be nearly as bad as u think next year with or without Bledsoe. So givein the choice I'm going to go the with Bledsoe choice versus the "Hope and a Prayer" for a lucky bounce when it comes to the lottery
Mudiay does seem like an ideal fit currently and likely is a target for PHI too. Also,I have high hopes for Sanders. However, replacing Sanders with a possible stud big man could be huge too. A big who is an offensive presence while also providing strong defense improves our team significantly.
I keep looking back at the Thunder. Even with Elite talents you do not win with 19 year olds. Without Bledsoe we are very below average/bad at PG (especially if Wolters doesn't play) and SG, have 19 year old forwards, and a gigantic question mark at C. This team would need huge years from Sanders/Ersan/Mayo/Delfino and basically hope our bench unit can win us tons of games.
With Bledsoe I could see us winning 30 or more since he would give us a desperately needed penetrator/shot creator for others whereas I see around 20 without him due to a strengthened Eastern Conference plus our abundance of youth.