Wisconsin Badgers Thread

Post #361 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 4:25 am

Hey a good basketball night.

midranger · Post #362 » by **midranger** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 4:31 am

jschligs wrote:Announcer lady just said "Usher has been a very good 3P shooter in his career". Dude has shot 28%, 20%, 28% last three years from deep haha.

She also said that Bell Biv didn’t need a screen, a split second before Johnny Davis pinned his **** against the glass.

Kerb Hohl · Post #363 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 12:09 pm

Trying to remain negative after my meltdown at the beginning of Maui, the only concern I have is frontcourt depth in a B10 loaded B10 of true centers/bigs. We didn’t have Davis against Provide but it also isn’t a coincidence that we struggled against a good big man.

Other than that…I’m enjoying this. Expectations this year were just make the tournament…but given this may be our last year with Davis, we hopefully can get more.

midranger · Post #364 » by **midranger** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 12:58 pm

I think Vogt is giving us much more big man stuff than Crowl, such as actually securing a rebound and not immediately getting shoved under the rim defensively. Obviously to be somewhat expected given the age and size.

But Crowl is giving us much of anything in his extended minutes. I’d probably flip their roles tbh.

chonestown · Post #365 » by **chonestown** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 2:09 pm

Davison out there playing like the adult he is. The other kids (adults) need to take a look at the adult (Davison) in the room (basketball court).imo

HaroldinGMinor · Post #366 » by **HaroldinGMinor** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 2:37 pm

midranger wrote:I think Vogt is giving us much more big man stuff than Crowl, such as actually securing a rebound and not immediately getting shoved under the rim defensively. Obviously to be somewhat expected given the age and size.

But Crowl is giving us much of anything in his extended minutes. I’d probably flip their roles tbh.

Meh. I dunno. Neither is that great. Crowl is more skilled offensively. Gonna depend on matchups.

That spot is a weakness no matter how they dole out the minutes.

neiLz · Post #367 » by **neiLz** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 3:18 pm

really glad to see gard let Davis kind of have some freedom on offense. heck davison took some quick non-badger like shots and hit them during his crazy run. Badgers were picked to finish like 10th in the big 10 ? LOL. they look like another top 4ish finish this year. hopefully they don't have any secret team meetings that are recorded.

Kerb Hohl · Post #368 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 3:19 pm

HaroldinGMinor wrote:
midranger wrote:I think Vogt is giving us much more big man stuff than Crowl, such as actually securing a rebound and not immediately getting shoved under the rim defensively. Obviously to be somewhat expected given the age and size.

But Crowl is giving us much of anything in his extended minutes. I’d probably flip their roles tbh.

Meh. I dunno. Neither is that great. Crowl is more skilled offensively. Gonna depend on matchups.

That spot is a weakness no matter how they dole out the minutes.

Yeah, Vogt was really good/important last night because his rebounding was great...but in a lot of the previous games, I thought Crowl hit a few 3s or made some good plays. Vogt is fine but he fouls so, so much and he does not have an outside game which changes the offense a little bit.

Kerb Hohl · Post #369 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 3:22 pm

neiLz wrote:really glad to see gard let Davis kind of have some freedom on offense. heck davison took some quick non-badger like shots and hit them during his crazy run. Badgers were picked to finish like 10th in the big 10 ? LOL. they look like another top 4ish finish this year. hopefully they don't have any secret team meetings that are recorded.

Things have changed, namely the rest of the country/conference stepping up their efficiency making it harder to Bo Ryan your way through things and Gard is still not Bo, but...

That injury season 4 years ago where they had a young team and tons of injuries really reset the whole, "I don't care what it looks like, assume Wisconsin will be at the very least pretty good" thing that voters should get in their head.

chonestown · Post #370 » by **chonestown** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 3:33 pm

Reminder, if you post in advance of the UW-Marquette game that you're a fan of both teams and don't care who wins, you sicken me. If that's your horrible secret, please don't share in real gm dot com slash bucks. THEE INTERNET should not be sullied by such takes.

buckboy · Post #371 » by **buckboy** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 3:35 pm

midranger wrote:I could die a happy man if the Badgers ever sent a double at a dude who was singlehandedly killing us.

You'll be waiting until the next coach. Won't happen with Gard.

DingleJerry · Post #372 » by **DingleJerry** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 3:47 pm

chonestown wrote:Reminder, if you post in advance of the UW-Marquette game that you're a fan of both teams and don't care who wins, you sicken me. If that's your horrible secret, please don't share in real gm dot com slash bucks. THEE INTERNET should not be sullied by such takes.

haha, I get it. However, as a UW fan/alum I'd phrase myself as not hating MU. Saying I'm a fan of is probably a stretch but really outside of our game I'm fine with them being good and in an ideal world we'd play them in the Title game and win. But I'd admit a good stretch of the Bo era I enjoyed watching MU more than UW due to style of play and how hard they played. I understand the MU hate at UW is probably moreso than the other way around, but nobody I was friends with in school or now with our UW ties really give MU much thought. It seems kind of like the MN/UW 'rivalry' of the last 20 years to me.

I suppose I'm also a bit skewed having grown up playing with and against some good players who ended up playing on good MU teams including the FF team.

Ron Swanson · Post #373 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 4:20 pm

Marquette is a stain on our glorious city of #Winners funded by rich FIBs to have a safe space to send their dopey Bears/Cubs loving offspring. Oh, and it's named after a weird French-Canadian...

Don't @ me

HaroldinGMinor · Post #374 » by **HaroldinGMinor** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 5:09 pm

I have empathy for MU grads. It's got to be hard for a midwestern catholic kid to have to attend your 2nd ranked school.

chonestown · Post #375 » by **chonestown** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 5:38 pm

HaroldinGMinor wrote:I have empathy for MU grads. It's got to be hard for a midwestern catholic kid to have to attend your 2nd ranked school.

This is St. Norbert's erasure.

Show some respeck to Pennings, Premontre and the original point gawd, Gary Greszk.

buckboy · Post #376 » by **buckboy** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 5:39 pm

I always go to a Marquette grad when I have a toothache.

midranger · Post #377 » by **midranger** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 6:34 pm

HaroldinGMinor wrote:
midranger wrote:I think Vogt is giving us much more big man stuff than Crowl, such as actually securing a rebound and not immediately getting shoved under the rim defensively. Obviously to be somewhat expected given the age and size.

But Crowl is giving us much of anything in his extended minutes. I’d probably flip their roles tbh.

Meh. I dunno. Neither is that great. Crowl is more skilled offensively. Gonna depend on matchups.

That spot is a weakness no matter how they dole out the minutes.

Gentle reminder that Crowl is shooting 25% from 3 and 39% overall.

Whatever skill he has, isn’t translating to games yet.

HaroldinGMinor · Post #378 » by **HaroldinGMinor** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 6:40 pm

midranger wrote:
HaroldinGMinor wrote:
midranger wrote:I think Vogt is giving us much more big man stuff than Crowl, such as actually securing a rebound and not immediately getting shoved under the rim defensively. Obviously to be somewhat expected given the age and size.

But Crowl is giving us much of anything in his extended minutes. I’d probably flip their roles tbh.

Meh. I dunno. Neither is that great. Crowl is more skilled offensively. Gonna depend on matchups.

That spot is a weakness no matter how they dole out the minutes.

Gentle reminder that Crowl is shooting 25% from 3 and 39% overall.

Whatever skill he has, isn’t translating to games yet.

Now do Vogt

DingleJerry · Post #379 » by **DingleJerry** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 6:45 pm

One of the younger bigs who can supposedly shoot have to eventually, you know, shoot. Gonna be slog if they struggle all year with bigs if not, they're young so hopefully one figures it out or gets comfortable by January.

midranger · Post #380 » by **midranger** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 6:57 pm

HaroldinGMinor wrote:
midranger wrote:
HaroldinGMinor wrote:
Meh. I dunno. Neither is that great. Crowl is more skilled offensively. Gonna depend on matchups.

That spot is a weakness no matter how they dole out the minutes.

Gentle reminder that Crowl is shooting 25% from 3 and 39% overall.

Whatever skill he has, isn’t translating to games yet.

Now do Vogt

No doubt. The guy has zero offensive game. But he also has like zero usage. It’s not like he’s wasting many possessions failing to finish 1 foot from the rim against any challenge or air balling three two feet wide left.

The upshot, he doesn’t get pushed around and isn’t a really bad rebounder.

Like Kerb, my main issue with him is he fouls like a maniac, but maybe that would change if he knew he needed to be out there more.

What’s the deal with Mors?