Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[M-C-G]

Knight/Middleton/Parker/Giannis/??????

Knight does nothing to diminish those around him from being scorers. Look at the #'s since Middleton has been a starter, they do not lie.

lol. Parker/Giannis/Middleton are going to be a 70+ USG trio. We need a role playing distributor with them not a head down gunner. One ball.

Knight has not been this player you speak of for almost a month now, do you really ever watch the games man......your bias is strong!

We need a Center to become a legit threat for the next 5-6 seasons. For the first time ever we are set at 4 of 5 positions, and yet people like you cannot be happy, makes me sick man, makes me sick

Actually, interesting point...Since Middleton entered the starting line up, what have we seen with people's +/- and shooting percentages with Knight in the line up?

I know Knight was knocked for making everyone worse, but now with Middleton's spacing has that tide turned a bit?

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

weve been playing really good basketball with a knight at pg, a 23 yo sg, a 20 yo sf, a 24 yo c, and a middling ant sized pf. the argument that we cant be successful with knight as a fulltime pg for some reason or another is lost on me.

[AussieBuck]

Knight/Middleton/Parker/Giannis/??????

Knight does nothing to diminish those around him from being scorers. Look at the #'s since Middleton has been a starter, they do not lie.

lol. Parker/Giannis/Middleton are going to be a 70+ USG trio. We need a role playing distributor with them not a head down gunner. One ball.

Knight has not been this player you speak of for almost a month now, do you really ever watch the games man......your bias is strong!

We need a Center to become a legit threat for the next 5-6 seasons. For the first time ever we are set at 4 of 5 positions, and yet people like you cannot be happy, makes me sick man, makes me sick

Knight still drives with his head down like he's Michael Redd, Still only one ball too. You're either playing Knight big money to score 14 points a game or have him taking touches away from better players.

[blazza18]

Even Stephen curry had all sorts of problems at pg earlier in his career. It's a big part of why they were able to extend him at the contract they did rather than at the max.

His ankles were the big reason why he got an undervalued contract.

[ReasonablySober]

Knight/Middleton/Parker/Giannis/??????

Knight does nothing to diminish those around him from being scorers. Look at the #'s since Middleton has been a starter, they do not lie.

lol. Parker/Giannis/Middleton are going to be a 70+ USG trio. We need a role playing distributor with them not a head down gunner. One ball.

Knight has not been this player you speak of for almost a month now, do you really ever watch the games man......your bias is strong!

We need a Center to become a legit threat for the next 5-6 seasons. For the first time ever we are set at 4 of 5 positions, and yet people like you cannot be happy, makes me sick man, makes me sick

He's had a USG of 27% for the last month. That's actually higher than his number on the season is. Are you forgetting that next season the Bucks are going to be adding Jabari Parker to the mix?

Either you believe Parker and/or Giannis will continue to play 2nd and 3rd fiddle to Knight (and that's what I believe happens if Knight is brought back) or you think Knight accepts the role of Mario Chalmers (I don't).

[ReasonablySober]

Knight/Middleton/Parker/Giannis/??????

Knight does nothing to diminish those around him from being scorers. Look at the #'s since Middleton has been a starter, they do not lie.

lol. Parker/Giannis/Middleton are going to be a 70+ USG trio. We need a role playing distributor with them not a head down gunner. One ball.

Knight has not been this player you speak of for almost a month now, do you really ever watch the games man......your bias is strong!

We need a Center to become a legit threat for the next 5-6 seasons. For the first time ever we are set at 4 of 5 positions, and yet people like you cannot be happy, makes me sick man, makes me sick

He's had a USG of 27% for the last month. That's actually higher than his number on the season is. Are you forgetting that next season the Bucks are going to be adding Jabari Parker to the mix?

Either you believe Parker and/or Giannis will continue to play 2nd and 3rd fiddle to Knight (and that's what I believe happens if Knight is brought back) or you think Knight accepts the role of Mario Chalmers (I don't).

[blazza18]

Even Stephen curry had all sorts of problems at pg earlier in his career. It's a big part of why they were able to extend him at the contract they did rather than at the max.

His ankles were the big reason why he got an undervalued contract.

[AussieBuck]

Knight is killing the internet, I'm done talking about Lou Williams 2.0

[ampd]

Even Stephen curry had all sorts of problems at pg earlier in his career. It's a big part of why they were able to extend him at the contract they did rather than at the max.

His ankles were the big reason why he got an undervalued contract.

He is also a vastly better playmaker now than he was his first few years in the league.

[blazza18]

I think Curry's always been a vastly underrated playmaker because of his shooting. He's obviously gotten even better, but he was still pretty damn good. Much better than what Knight has ever been.

[RRyder823]

lol. Parker/Giannis/Middleton are going to be a 70+ USG trio. We need a role playing distributor with them not a head down gunner. One ball.

Knight has not been this player you speak of for almost a month now, do you really ever watch the games man......your bias is strong!

We need a Center to become a legit threat for the next 5-6 seasons. For the first time ever we are set at 4 of 5 positions, and yet people like you cannot be happy, makes me sick man, makes me sick

He's had a USG of 27% for the last month. That's actually higher than his number on the season is. Are you forgetting that next season the Bucks are going to be adding Jabari Parker to the mix?

Either you believe Parker and/or Giannis will continue to play 2nd and 3rd fiddle to Knight (and that's what I believe happens if Knight is brought back) or you think Knight accepts the role of Mario Chalmers (I don't).

Well said on the main divide on this issue. I think he would accept the Chalmers role so I have no problem bringing him back. We simply disagree on this point. That said im more then open to trading him for the right price. But i'll say the same regarding anyone not named Jabari or Giannis

[paulpressey25]

I just looked at our schedule.

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/ ... ukee-bucks

We play tonight and the Kings on Wednesday. Then we are off for 9 straight days. Our next game isn't until after the Feb 19th trade deadline. So all the evals of guys for trade purposes will be done by Wednesday night.

[GOBsaysCOMEON]

As the deadline approaches, I hope the Bucks try to take advantage of a stupid team like Sacramento.

[AussieBuck]

I just looked at our schedule.

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/ ... ukee-bucks

We play tonight and the Kings on Wednesday. Then we are off for 9 straight days. Our next game isn't until after the Feb 19th trade deadline. So all the evals of guys for trade purposes will be done by Wednesday night.

Anyone ever been traded between the All Star game and the deadline?

[dc634]

I just looked at our schedule.

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/ ... ukee-bucks

We play tonight and the Kings on Wednesday. Then we are off for 9 straight days. Our next game isn't until after the Feb 19th trade deadline. So all the evals of guys for trade purposes will be done by Wednesday night.

Well that is a long ass time.

[mattg]

It needs to be mentioned that usage% is a dumb stat that doesn't accurately reflect how much a player actually has the ball. It's theoretically possible for a player to dribble 23 seconds out of every shot clock for an entire game and still have a usage of zero.

[AussieBuck]

It needs to be mentioned that usage% is a dumb stat that doesn't accurately reflect how much a player actually has the ball. It's theoretically possible for a player to dribble 23 seconds out of every shot clock for an entire game and still have a usage of zero.

Does it really need mentioning? Did anyone not know it isn't clock usage and or use to that way?

[dc634]

It needs to be mentioned that usage% is a dumb stat that doesn't accurately reflect how much a player actually has the ball. It's theoretically possible for a player to dribble 23 seconds out of every shot clock for an entire game and still have a usage of zero.

Does it really need mentioning? Did anyone not know it isn't clock usage and or use to that way?

Probably a lot of people, actually.

[Giannis Parker]

It needs to be mentioned that usage% is a dumb stat that doesn't accurately reflect how much a player actually has the ball. It's theoretically possible for a player to dribble 23 seconds out of every shot clock for an entire game and still have a usage of zero.

Does it really need mentioning? Did anyone not know it isn't clock usage and or use to that way?

Probably a lot of people, actually.

The facts are that we are not in any type of salary hole, the facts are that Knight is absolutely a 3rd fiddle for any good team, the fact is that Knight is worth 12-14m per season (but may get only 10-11m based on market), the fact is that with Knight/Middleton/Parker/Giannis this team now looks better than they have for 25 years. Those are the facts, which also means that the last and final fact is that we have one position of weakness, that being the Center spot.

I feel that having 4 players who can legitimately score the basketball at an efficient rate is going to be a huge asset for this team moving forward, and we should be looking to fill the Center position with someone like a Ben Wallace type player, while having Henson off the bench who can give you more of a scoring presence. Finding a Center who can fulfill this role is easier to me then trying to find a PG who can give you 17 and 7 along with efficiency.

You can very easily make a case for 27/27/23/18 for Giannis/Jabari/Knight/Middleton. And fwiw, a usage of 18 for a player who is primarily a jump shooter is quite high. Expecting Middleton to be a 27% usage player seems quite a bit ridiculous if you ask me. I actually think the role we currently have Middleton in is the best role for him, both now and throughout his career. Maybe he peaks at around 21 some seasons, but I feel 18 is the sweet spot.

[KqWIN]

It needs to be mentioned that usage% is a dumb stat that doesn't accurately reflect how much a player actually has the ball. It's theoretically possible for a player to dribble 23 seconds out of every shot clock for an entire game and still have a usage of zero.

Every stat is dumb when you use it for something it doesn't measure. That's like saying Middleton is a poor shooter because his block% is low.