Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Joe Johnson workout, pg 97

coolhandluke121 · Post #381 » by **coolhandluke121** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:33 pm

DingleJerry wrote:
The drop from Malcolm/Hill down to Pat/DJA/Forbes is pretty stark too.

I would say it's Malcolm/Hill/Mirotic to DDV/DJA/Pat, which really depends on how one values the very different contributions of Brogdon vs. DDV, accounting for needs.

crowhead76 · Post #382 » by **crowhead76** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:43 pm

Sign Ariza if bought out. TBJ and Wright are both under team control through next year, TBJ is a RFA after 2022.

raferfenix · Post #383 » by **raferfenix** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:44 pm

Comparing previous Bucks teams to the current one also has Giannis' personal improvement as a key variable.

If he can hit free throws and adjust to defensive walls better that could matter more than Brogdon vs Wes vs Donte comparisons.

That said, I do think (or at least hope) Bledsoe vs Holiday will matter come playoff time, particularly insofar as having a steady hand out there when Giannis does start to force things.

mcfromage · Post #384 » by **mcfromage** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:50 pm

crowhead76 wrote:

Sign Ariza if bought out. TBJ and Wright are both under team control through next year, TBJ is a RFA after 2022.

I dig both of these deals.

emunney · Post #385 » by **emunney** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:10 pm

FYI Len cannot be traded this year.

Baddy Chuck · Post #386 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:37 pm

Beorn wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Bad Euroleague player gets signed to a 2-way. .

Fixed this for you

Cool and bad NBA players dominate that league.

ShootingtheJ · Post #387 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:37 pm

crowhead76 wrote:

Sign Ariza if bought out. TBJ and Wright are both under team control through next year, TBJ is a RFA after 2022.

I love the first deal, but skip the 2nd one. TBJ is out of shape and isn't much of a shooter. Pat is our 5th or 6th best player.

ShootingtheJ · Post #388 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:41 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:
The drop from Malcolm/Hill down to Pat/DJA/Forbes is pretty stark too.

I would say it's Malcolm/Hill/Mirotic to DDV/DJA/Pat, which really depends on how one values the very different contributions of Brogdon vs. DDV, accounting for needs.

If we're doing a then and now comparison, shouldn't Portis be included?

The only downgrade in roster changes is Hill to DJA/Forbes. That needs to be rectified.

Hopefully the improvement of Giannis allows us to play without the regressing Lopez.

coolhandluke121 · Post #389 » by **coolhandluke121** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:12 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
coolhandluke121 wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:
The drop from Malcolm/Hill down to Pat/DJA/Forbes is pretty stark too.

I would say it's Malcolm/Hill/Mirotic to DDV/DJA/Pat, which really depends on how one values the very different contributions of Brogdon vs. DDV, accounting for needs.

If we're doing a then and now comparison, shouldn't Portis be included?

The only downgrade in roster changes is Hill to DJA/Forbes. That needs to be rectified.

Hopefully the improvement of Giannis allows us to play without the regressing Lopez.

This comparison was mainly just about the backcourt from the ECF to now. The starting frontcourt is still the same so it makes sense that comparing the guards in 2019 vs. now is the major change. Portis matters too but I'm not at all convinced he'll be any better than Ersan in the playoffs. My premise is that this Bucks team is as good as the 2019 ECF team, whereas the 2020 playoffs were pretty flukey and I'm not drawing a lot of conclusions from that.

BigO · Post #390 » by **BigO** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:13 pm

How about trading Bud for a future 2nd round pick? Or if there are no buyers, how about trading Bud plus a second rounder for future considerations?

ShootingtheJ · Post #391 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:38 pm

BigO wrote:How about trading Bud for a future 2nd round pick? Or if there are no buyers, how about trading Bud plus a second rounder for future considerations?

You do realize that if Bud was avaliable, the best organizations would be lining up for him, again.

giannis and 1 · Post #392 » by **giannis and 1** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:36 am

Although Giannis doesn't have an elite #2 option with him, he has 2 all star calibre players. That kind of makes up for the fact neither of them is an elite second option. Based on that, and Giannis imo getting a little better, this is the best roster we have had. We have a good big 3 now.

emunney · Post #393 » by **emunney** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:37 am

The ratio of single-issue posters is getting too high.

Perishable517 · Post #394 » by **Perishable517** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:08 am

Daver wrote:Would anyone on this board approve a middleton for collins rondo n gallinaro(sp) trade what say you

I saw this. Lol, no.

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thonnisbeastley · Post #395 » by **thonnisbeastley** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:25 am

Daver wrote:Would anyone on this board approve a middleton for collins rondo n gallinaro(sp) trade what say you

No. But I would approve a Middleton/DJW/Nwora for Barnes/Haliburton/Bjelica/Whiteside.

chonestown · Post #396 » by **chonestown** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:31 am

BigO wrote:How about trading Bud for a future 2nd round pick? Or if there are no buyers, how about trading Bud plus a second rounder for future considerations?

Tough to match salaries. Just don't see this one happening.imo

tski1972 · Post #397 » by **tski1972** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:58 pm

Hollinger threw out Austin Rivers name as a Bucks target.

Thoughts?

Post #398 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:06 pm

emunney wrote:The ratio of single-issue posters is getting too high.

The Lasry family agrees with this.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #399 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:12 pm

tski1972 wrote:Hollinger threw out Austin Rivers name as a Bucks target.

Thoughts?

Why is he not playing is my first thought.

Has size, shooting, ball handling.

Not sure where's he's at as a defender, but has to be better than Forbes/DJA.

Obviously would really rather not have to give up a pick, but, whatever.

Bucks need another playoff option that can play both guard spots and he has the potential to score a flurry of points, so probably worth it.

crkone · Post #400 » by **crkone** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:16 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:
tski1972 wrote:Hollinger threw out Austin Rivers name as a Bucks target.

Thoughts?

Why is he not playing is my first thought.

Has size, shooting, ball handling.

Not sure where's he's at as a defender, but has to be better than Forbes/DJA.

Obviously would really rather not have to give up a pick, but, whatever.

Bucks need another playoff option that can play both guard spots and he has the potential to score a flurry of points, so probably worth it.

He had a kid.