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ROUND 1: AJ Johnson - Poll Added

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Way Too Early Snap Judgment

A - Future All Star
23
15%
B - Future Rotation Piece
22
15%
C - Too Early To Tell
64
42%
D - Never a rotation player
42
28%
 
Total votes: 151

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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#381 » by soxperry » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:02 am

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His draft guide was published 5 days ago and Johnson was 32 on his personal board.


well he probably knew by then

but howabout a new challenge... did anyone have him top 23? lol no


How about a different kind of challenge: what is your deeply held opinion based on?


I love that you asked that question. Thats me on twitter every day before i realize its a lost cause.
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#382 » by Badgerlander » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:03 am

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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#383 » by Badgerlander » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:24 am

So is Giannis upset that we didn’t draft him any weapons and we end up trading him to the Jets in 3 years?
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#384 » by soxperry » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:27 am

I lose my mind reading comments like "well, you wanted younger and more athletic, right????"

Newsflash, literally any rookie would have qualified as younger and many of them as more athletic. We needed one who can play NOW (or to move the pick for someone who can). Not drafting anyone and just surrendering the pick would have at least helped w the 2nd apron. That may have been the better move for our title chances the next two seasons. Think about that.

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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#385 » by Badgerlander » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:10 am

So last night totally felt like the night we drafted Brandon Jennings. There were signs leading up to the draft that we were going to do something like draft Jennings and I was like we need to draft Ty Lawson but in my heart I was looking at Jrue Holiday as a prospect. AJ Johnson seems much closer to Jrue than Jennings. Same measurements, Jrue struggled his lone year of college. Now I really wish that we had Jrue to help this kid develop. I gave zero faith in our current development staff, the herd is a joke. Anyway, I expect this kid to have a rookie year similar to Livingston last year
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#386 » by stillgotgame » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:12 am

Love this pick.

Swing for the fence - check
Long and athletic - check
Good guy - check
Doc can yell "AJ!" and 3 guys will look :lol: - check

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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#387 » by adam10 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:22 am

Initially felt a little let down by the pick, but now I find myself all in on it. Feel like there could be something about him.

He seems to have some swagger and some bounce. Exciting for him to have Dame there as a mentor too.
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#388 » by soxperry » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:26 am

adam10 wrote:Initially felt a little let down by the pick, but now I find myself all in on it. Feel like there could be something about him.

He seems to have some swagger and some bounce. Exciting for him to have Dame there as a mentor too.


Youve just described what doctors refer to as Copium.
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#389 » by adam10 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:40 am

soxperry wrote:
adam10 wrote:Initially felt a little let down by the pick, but now I find myself all in on it. Feel like there could be something about him.

He seems to have some swagger and some bounce. Exciting for him to have Dame there as a mentor too.


Youve just described what doctors refer to as Copium.


It's like I went and got it over the counter after realising it wasn't what we all expected.
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#390 » by ABucksFan » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:42 am

He’s a project and will need time…the thing is when’s the last time we actually developed a rookie in Horsts tenure lol
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#391 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:46 am

Remember the beginning of the season after the championship, when we had a bunch of injuries, and we were stuck with wonder scrub Justin Robinson getting minutes? That's the immortal talent that kept AJ Johnson from getting minutes in the NBL.
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#392 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:58 am

Seeing a lot of Bucks fans with a half arsed defense of “well they probably weren’t expecting Denver to trade up for Holmes and panicked.”

AJ was in the crowd ready to go. That dude had a promise.
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#393 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:59 am

stillgotgame wrote:Love this pick.

Swing for the fence - check
Long and athletic - check
Good guy - check
Doc can yell "AJ!" and 3 guys will look :lol: - check

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6’7??? Not a shot.
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#394 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:00 pm

ABucksFan wrote:He’s a project and will need time…the thing is when’s the last time we actually developed a rookie in Horsts tenure lol


Or had the patience to? Bucks fans want to trade Marjon for a top 55 protected pick. It's not whether AJ eventually develops, the question is which team does he play for if/when it happens.
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#395 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:01 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Seeing a lot of Bucks fans with a half arsed defense of “well they probably weren’t expecting Denver to trade up for Holmes and panicked.”

AJ was in the crowd ready to go. That dude had a promise.


Yup, Horst wasnt drafting Holmes, which means he's clueless.
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#396 » by Garbs_7 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:09 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Seeing a lot of Bucks fans with a half arsed defense of “well they probably weren’t expecting Denver to trade up for Holmes and panicked.”

AJ was in the crowd ready to go. That dude had a promise.


Ah I disagree there. There were plenty of other players in the crowd who didn't get drafted, plus guys in shiny suits in the green room who went home empty handed. He may have had an inkling there was a chance Bucks could take him, but I don't think it was anything close to a promise.

You're in NY, about to be drafted at some stage, of course you go and watch the event either way :D
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#397 » by Jez2983 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:13 pm

Well this thread certainly has me hyped. Hopefully he's better than Thon.
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#398 » by ajb905 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:21 pm

I'm just not seeing the archetype of this AJ being that valuable. Looks like even in HS he's never been a great scorer (and shooting has been a continued struggle). Rail thin combo guard, who may develop into iso rim attacking threat on offense? I guess have to wait until summer league to see what's inside the mystery box.

Hope his shot can develop and can add weight without losing his explosion
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#399 » by machu46 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:32 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I'm actually fine with the thought process. I mean, everyone agreed we needed to get "younger and more athletic" right? Well, he certainly gives you both of those things, and I'll stress till the end of time that you should always be drafting upside in the NBA.

I'm just less enamored with the actual player. He was, and this can't be stressed enough, absolute garbage in the NBL. The shooting mechanics themselves seem fine, but sub-30% from 3 and sub-60% from the line is incredibly worrisome even at his age. It's like Horst watched the Combine scrimmage game and based his entire draft profile off of that. He's got some potential, but I'm not really sold he's actually this super high upside guy based just on the physical tools. Like, you're basically drafting a 19-20 year old high schooler. I legitimately think a guy like Chomche was a safer pick.


I can't really defend the him much as a prospect because you're right, he barely played and when he did, he played like crap.

But the sample sizes on those shooting %'s are so small...if just two of those free throws were a make instead of a miss he's at 70%. Even the FGAs is such a small sample it's hard to read much into it, but the free throws especially. I have to think the Bucks have access to his high school stats to try to build a larger sample size, but either way, I think they probably don't care how he's played in the past; they're banking on him improving immensely.

Edit: I see you already responded to this earlier in the thread lol
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Re: ROUND 1: AJ Johnson 

Post#400 » by midranger » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:41 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:Love this pick.

Swing for the fence - check
Long and athletic - check
Good guy - check
Doc can yell "AJ!" and 3 guys will look :lol: - check

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6’7??? Not a shot.

We saw him next to silver last night. He was taller, but by an inch, maaaaybe 2. 6’4 or 6’5 tops.
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