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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#381 » by Prez » Wed May 14, 2025 2:59 am

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Prez wrote:Doc was the worst coach in the league this past season. It's pretty easy for me to get worked up over the Bucks having the worst coach in the league coaching Giannis.


They needed Kevin Porter Jr. to save them. Not just this season, but the future of the franchise. That's how terrible the roster is.

The Bucks roster with Dame injured being rough and Doc being a garbage coach aren't mutually exclusive things. We can acknowledge both things to be true.
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#382 » by Wonka » Wed May 14, 2025 2:59 am

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Prez wrote:Doc was the worst coach in the league this past season. It's pretty easy for me to get worked up over the Bucks having the worst coach in the league coaching Giannis.


good coaches vs bad coaches is a fine margin. doc wasnt great but he wasnt as big a deal as the board makes him out to be imo

personally if hes brought back id be like meh. whatever. without being there myself i find it hard to decipher. i dont think you can draw a line on coaches unless youre a gm and have a heartbeat of the lockerroom dynamic. as fans we dont have that. every coach on every team in america from HS on up people bitch about

i do think the starting lineups were weird but if we sat with him at dinner and he unloaded for a night it might make sense. sometimes its more about the people than it is the metrics or the tradition. people and personalities in the lockerroom outweigh all of that


When the goal is retaining Giannis and winning rings, “meh” is a real issue. Doc sucks. There’s no need to pretend otherwise. He is a full step or two behind in terms of in game adjustments, and a full decade or two behind the actual game of basketball. He is THE main issue here.
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#383 » by Prez » Wed May 14, 2025 3:00 am

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Prez wrote:Doc was the worst coach in the league this past season. It's pretty easy for me to get worked up over the Bucks having the worst coach in the league coaching Giannis.


Nope, not even close. Buds was easily the worst. Doc played some scrubs, but Bud's was embarassing.

Bud in his worst season is still better than Doc. I wanted Bud fired and I'd take Bud back in a heartbeat over another Doc season.
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#384 » by th87 » Wed May 14, 2025 3:02 am

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emunney wrote:Is it even possible to tear your Achilles' if you haven't made an All-NBA team?


reaching basketball consciousness in the 80s i look back and achilles seemed really really rare. now like its everywhere all the time. its weird. i developed a weird anxiety in my early 40s when i made a short comeback playing ball in a rec league locally(i was still seminasty enough i should have been having fun for that level after not touching a ball in almost 10 years despite being groundbased).....but i quit after that one deal.... i kept thinking every time i played like i was lucky i didnt blow an achilles. getting hurt in general bothered me.....but it was the achilles i thought and even discussed with friends. it was anxiety inducing and took the fun out of it oddly

its the one injury that to me is just like sooooo **** that. acl tear would suck but whatever fine i can limp around. guys could still plow their fields in the old days with those. tear the **** out of both groins or hammys fine. brutal handicap but heals without surgery. head wounds or missing teeth whatever. pirate looking guys age with class. achilles?....no effing way im going down that road.

so strictly golf now. 200 rounds a year but no achilles worry. tiger just blew his but it was doing dumb stuff like lifting wieghts. i dont lift weights. like what am i trying for a super model at this age? maybe i can score one if they like pirates after theyve been stranded a year with healthy achilles.


So in a way, it's your Achilles heel.
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#385 » by ReasonablySober » Wed May 14, 2025 3:05 am

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Prez wrote:Doc was the worst coach in the league this past season. It's pretty easy for me to get worked up over the Bucks having the worst coach in the league coaching Giannis.


They needed Kevin Porter Jr. to save them. Not just this season, but the future of the franchise. That's how terrible the roster is.

The Bucks roster with Dame injured being rough and Doc being a garbage coach aren't mutually exclusive things. We can acknowledge both things to be true.


Sure, but one thing is fixable immediately and another is not. They can fire Doc tomorrow and fix the coaching situation. They can't pull a championship caliber roster out of their asses. That's not possible. So who gives a **** if Doc is still around? The roster is beyond repair. That's all that matters.
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#386 » by MoreTrife » Wed May 14, 2025 3:05 am

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Post#387 » by rilamann » Wed May 14, 2025 3:07 am

If Doc was coaching the Nuggets they would have lost in the first round because Doc would play Russell Westbrook 46 minutes a game because Russell Westbrook won MVP in 2017.
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#388 » by Prez » Wed May 14, 2025 3:17 am

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They needed Kevin Porter Jr. to save them. Not just this season, but the future of the franchise. That's how terrible the roster is.

The Bucks roster with Dame injured being rough and Doc being a garbage coach aren't mutually exclusive things. We can acknowledge both things to be true.


Sure, but one thing is fixable immediately and another is not. They can fire Doc tomorrow and fix the coaching situation. They can't pull a championship caliber roster out of their asses. That's not possible. So who gives a **** if Doc is still around? The roster is beyond repair. That's all that matters.

This logic just makes no sense to me. Like yeah, of the two big problems on the team one is quickly fixable and the other isn't. But Giannis Antetokounmpo is on the roster. If he's on the roster and he's committed to being with the Bucks moving forward you owe it to him to at least **** try, and you do that by at least fixing what is fixable.

Now obviously if Giannis outright asks for a trade or is hinting towards it behind closed doors, that's a different situation altogether. But if he wants to be here and the franchise is aligned on that, the "who gives a **** if Doc is still around" stuff makes no sense.
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#389 » by ReasonablySober » Wed May 14, 2025 3:23 am

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Prez wrote:The Bucks roster with Dame injured being rough and Doc being a garbage coach aren't mutually exclusive things. We can acknowledge both things to be true.


Sure, but one thing is fixable immediately and another is not. They can fire Doc tomorrow and fix the coaching situation. They can't pull a championship caliber roster out of their asses. That's not possible. So who gives a **** if Doc is still around? The roster is beyond repair. That's all that matters.

This logic just makes no sense to me. Like yeah, of the two big problems on the team one is quickly fixable and the other isn't. But Giannis Antetokounmpo is on the roster. If he's on the roster and he's committed to being with the Bucks moving forward you owe it to him to at least **** try, and you do that by at least fixing what is fixable.

Now obviously if Giannis outright asks for a trade or is hinting towards it behind closed doors, that's a different situation altogether. But if he wants to be here and the franchise is aligned on that, the "who gives a **** if Doc is still around" stuff makes no sense.


For the record, if Giannis gives a wink wink indication that he doesn't care about being on a loser and that he'll extend in October of '26, I'll sign on for that kind of mediocrity. Maybe the Bucks beat the odds and hit on mid first rounder in one of the years they have a pick. If he's committed to being in Milwaukee no matter what, I'll be good with that.
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#390 » by rilamann » Wed May 14, 2025 3:41 am

I don't think it will actually happen. But it's a possibility.

But KAT winning finals MVP by beating the Wolves in the NBA finals would be the craziest plot twist in NBA history lol.
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#391 » by MickeyDavis » Wed May 14, 2025 3:43 am

I wouldn't be shocked if the Knicks lose this series.
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Post#392 » by blazza18 » Wed May 14, 2025 3:47 am

If OKC win Daigneault is going to get a lot of praise because Dort made his threes.
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#393 » by rilamann » Wed May 14, 2025 3:49 am

MickeyDavis wrote:I wouldn't be shocked if the Knicks lose this series.

I agree, I think the Knicks win it but I wouldn't be totally shocked if the Knicks blow it.

If the series was 2-2 I'd probably still go with the Celtics. But I think without Tatum the Celtics won't be able to win 3 straight. Should still be interesting.
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#394 » by rilamann » Wed May 14, 2025 3:51 am

Biggest 5 minute stretch of SGA's career right here.

Let's see what he's got.
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#395 » by jschligs » Wed May 14, 2025 3:52 am

One guy I was completely wrong on was Braun. Thought he'd be a nothing and here he is averaging 15ppg on 38% from deep.
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Post#396 » by Matches Malone » Wed May 14, 2025 3:54 am

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Post#397 » by MickeyDavis » Wed May 14, 2025 3:59 am

Terrific game. I think the winner of this series wins the title.
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#398 » by MoreTrife » Wed May 14, 2025 4:00 am

Sorry, I just hate hate hate the SGA/Tatum style of play. I guess it's skill but it's ugly to just push off 50% of your possessions.
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Post#399 » by blazza18 » Wed May 14, 2025 4:00 am

Holy **** man what a shot
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Re: ATL - Confirmed Achilles for Tatum 

Post#400 » by jschligs » Wed May 14, 2025 4:00 am

Jokic what the **** haha

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