Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas: KPJ confirmed ankle sprain after MRI

[raferfenix]

Page after page with the same Kuz posts and it's 3 months till the season starts. Yikes

Hey man someone’s gotta work these here content mines.

And yes would be oh so much better to have more to work with!

[tedbrogen]

From what I could find it looks like they used the B.A.E. to sign KPJ, used the 20% raise for Trent Jr and Prince.

KPJ got the equivalent of the BAE as part of the room exception. They honored the agreement before they needed to clear space to sign Turner. Technically they didn't have the BAE anymore.

I’d assume Horst shrewdly knew he could offer KPJ the BAE but then if he somehow found someone to sign with cap space after stretching Dame that he’d still have the room exception to honor the agreement.

KPJ and his agent agreed to a certain amount but they don’t care how the Bucks handle the cap logistics.

[tedbrogen]

Don't get me wrong I've appreciated your posts on Kuzma even aside from the cognitive dissonance factor!

I agree it's not so hard to envision him being just fine as an athletic backup 4.

Yes Kuz will spaz out way too often but this is also a team who's been trotting out dead man walking lineups for years now too.

Bolded lies the issue that Kuz truthers seem to ignore. Between GA, BP, and Turner all minutes at the 4/5 are already delegated. Any scraps or times when any of those three are out Sims can fill in. Kuz is a third string PF behind the best player in the world and one of the better bench players in the league.

He’s useful only when either GA or Bobby are out. And even then, you could make the case for throwing minutes to Prince as a stretch four because at least he can hit open threes.

Giannis as a point-SF opens more minutes at PF.

Call GA whatever position you want, teams will still leave Kuz wide open to clog the lane for GA whether Kuz is a 3 or 4.

[tedbrogen]

Bucks trade: Kuzma, $7.3M more in salary, waive Ajax
Kings trade: Devin Carter, DeMar DeRozan

Assumption 1: Horst/Doc think Devin Carter's defense will win out in a lord of the flies death match with our other young guards scrapping for minutes.

Assumption 2: DeRozan's partially guaranteed contract (allowing a team to drop $15M in cap that offseason) will be more valuable than the $20M Kuzma is owed.

Alternatively....DeRozan is a worse fit than Kuzma in a culture-setting year when we're trying to focus on speed/youth/defense.

And just because it's the Kings giving up on yet another guard they took in the lottery yesterday doesn't necessarily mean they'll be good.

What do we think?

This is where Doc being the head coach is such a negative. DD playing 15 or so minutes a night when GA sits (maybe more when GA is out) and doing his thing on offense would actually be super useful. Would keep the offense afloat during those times and allow you to keep KPJ paired with GA because they seem to have awesome chemistry.

But you put DD on a team coached by Doc and he’ll be playing 30+ mpg, mostly paired with GA, and it’ll be even worse than the situation with Dame because DD is a legit awful fit offball with GA.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

horst is well aware he needs to improve this thing. giannis is committed for this year. next year a kuzma expring with a bunch of picks to deal all but assures hes got the ammo to make another splash. imo we cannot take on another contract that has even the slighest chance of handicapping us next year

Very much agreed we cannot afford to waste Kuzma's salary slot in anticipation of what we can offer next draft day.

But it's not like keeping Kuz and he continues to suck while becoming a malcontent about his minutes doesn't entail its own risk.

i think hes the least likely to become a malcontent. either way tell his agent to find a deal if he does. literally send him home. half the board their greatest concern is that doc plays him and thats why we just haaavvve to trade him because docs a moron and kuzmas a moron and we cant have alllll these morons when we know that kpj and giannis and all short men generally are the super smart high iq faster future of the team. what we know is short fast men who can shoot have all the value over tall men who can only kinda shoot but not as well. this is now a fact apparently

i just think everybody is waaaay overthinking this here. put the guys out there and see how it looks with every combination. at the deadline we can commit to whatever combo we want. and when it matters in the playoffs next year i could give a **** how many minutes kyle kuzma got in nov and dec the previous year

[midranger]

Bucks:
Ayo Dosunmu
Klay Thompson

Bulls:
Jonathan Kuminga ($26 mill/year)
Caleb Martin

Warriors:
Nikola Vucevic
Andre Jackson Jr.
Protected 1st from Bulls
2nd rounder from Mavs

Mavericks:
Kyle Kuzma

[Ron Swanson]

It was sandwiched into a Fansided article but still notable that one of the Locked on Hawks podcast hosts listed us as a Top-3 destination for Malik Monk (Golden State and Miami the other two). He's probably getting underrated at this point if we're talking about him as an "attaching assets to dump" kind of guy, which to me is wild when just last offseason he was widely considered the 5th or 6th best free agent available.

[emunney]

It was sandwiched into a Fansided article but still notable that one of the Locked on Hawks podcast hosts listed us as a Top-3 destination for Malik Monk (Golden State and Miami the other two). He's probably getting underrated at this point if we're talking about him as an "attaching assets to dump" kind of guy, which to me is wild when just last offseason he was widely considered the 5th or 6th best free agent available.

We'd really be squeezing him in at this point but I'm tidying up my vacation home on Monk Island. Just unfortunate that I had to sell my spot on Waiters Lagoon to pay for it.

[ShootingtheJ]

Bucks:
Ayo Dosunmu
Klay Thompson

Bulls:
Jonathan Kuminga ($26 mill/year)
Caleb Martin

Warriors:
Nikola Vucevic
Andre Jackson Jr.
Protected 1st from Bulls
2nd rounder from Mavs

Mavericks:
Kyle Kuzma

Mavs are looking to add guards, not PFs, and they've turned against Kuzma since he shot them down 2 years ago.

[Brewhoopfan]

Bolded lies the issue that Kuz truthers seem to ignore. Between GA, BP, and Turner all minutes at the 4/5 are already delegated. Any scraps or times when any of those three are out Sims can fill in. Kuz is a third string PF behind the best player in the world and one of the better bench players in the league.

He’s useful only when either GA or Bobby are out. And even then, you could make the case for throwing minutes to Prince as a stretch four because at least he can hit open threes.

Giannis as a point-SF opens more minutes at PF.

The other end of the court matters more. Giannis guarding 3s is a worse idea than Prince guarding 1s and 2s. You can't negate Turner's added mobility by adding another mismatched big on the floor. Kuzma can be an effective perimeter defender when motivated. I'd be willing to put up with Kuzma's offense if he can lock in defensively. The 25-26 Bucks need to be a top 5 NBA defense to have a chance. I think the pieces are there, but like most here, I don't trust Doc.

[midranger]

Bucks:
Ayo Dosunmu
Klay Thompson

Bulls:
Jonathan Kuminga ($26 mill/year)
Caleb Martin

Warriors:
Nikola Vucevic
Andre Jackson Jr.
Protected 1st from Bulls
2nd rounder from Mavs

Mavericks:
Kyle Kuzma

Mavs are looking to add guards, not PFs, and they've turned against Kuzma since he shot them down 2 years ago.

Send Kuz to Sacto and Monk to Dallas

[drew881]

It was sandwiched into a Fansided article but still notable that one of the Locked on Hawks podcast hosts listed us as a Top-3 destination for Malik Monk (Golden State and Miami the other two). He's probably getting underrated at this point if we're talking about him as an "attaching assets to dump" kind of guy, which to me is wild when just last offseason he was widely considered the 5th or 6th best free agent available.

We'd really be squeezing him in at this point but I'm tidying up my vacation home on Monk Island. Just unfortunate that I had to sell my spot on Waiters Lagoon to pay for it.

Half of this board is still stuck with their Darlington Hobson Rancho Vacation Resort Timeshare.

[emunney]

It was sandwiched into a Fansided article but still notable that one of the Locked on Hawks podcast hosts listed us as a Top-3 destination for Malik Monk (Golden State and Miami the other two). He's probably getting underrated at this point if we're talking about him as an "attaching assets to dump" kind of guy, which to me is wild when just last offseason he was widely considered the 5th or 6th best free agent available.

We'd really be squeezing him in at this point but I'm tidying up my vacation home on Monk Island. Just unfortunate that I had to sell my spot on Waiters Lagoon to pay for it.

Half of this board is still stuck with their Darlington Hobson Rancho Vacation Resort Timeshare.

Paul George is the last man standing from that draft (the Tiny Gallon Draft).

[drew881]

We'd really be squeezing him in at this point but I'm tidying up my vacation home on Monk Island. Just unfortunate that I had to sell my spot on Waiters Lagoon to pay for it.

Half of this board is still stuck with their Darlington Hobson Rancho Vacation Resort Timeshare.

Paul George is the last man standing from that draft (the Tiny Gallon Draft).

Luke Harangody has already transitioned into a life as a tech bro.

[tedbrogen]

Giannis as a point-SF opens more minutes at PF.

The other end of the court matters more. Giannis guarding 3s is a worse idea than Prince guarding 1s and 2s. You can't negate Turner's added mobility by adding another mismatched big on the floor. Kuzma can be an effective perimeter defender when motivated. I'd be willing to put up with Kuzma's offense if he can lock in defensively. The 25-26 Bucks need to be a top 5 NBA defense to have a chance. I think the pieces are there, but like most here, I don't trust Doc.

Nothing matters if you throw a guy in the lineup who put up this line in 28 minutes of a playoff game: 0/0/0/0/0

[yb90]

It was sandwiched into a Fansided article but still notable that one of the Locked on Hawks podcast hosts listed us as a Top-3 destination for Malik Monk (Golden State and Miami the other two). He's probably getting underrated at this point if we're talking about him as an "attaching assets to dump" kind of guy, which to me is wild when just last offseason he was widely considered the 5th or 6th best free agent available.

What's weird are all of the possible destination teams are full of guards already.

[mlloyd10]

Does the Fox rumor has any legs to it?

[Bernman]

Just sounds like it's speculation Fox could become expendable if Harper is the real deal & they want to better align the timelines. Harper-Fox-Castle-Vassell (w/ Wemby in frontcourt) is a lot of cooks in the kitchen. Fox &/or Vassell may need to be moved in the end.

They likely feel it out until the deadline. Might be a viable avenue for us & then we could trade from our guard surplus. We could have likely just dealt Dame for Fox last yr, ducked the 2nd apron, not lost AJJo & Khris, nor had to eat 20m+ per in dead cap. But let's not live in the past...

[DanoMac]

We'd really be squeezing him in at this point but I'm tidying up my vacation home on Monk Island. Just unfortunate that I had to sell my spot on Waiters Lagoon to pay for it.

Half of this board is still stuck with their Darlington Hobson Rancho Vacation Resort Timeshare.

Paul George is the last man standing from that draft (the Tiny Gallon Draft).

Anyone still floating out at Damien Inglis Barrier Reef or just me

[soxperry]

People..

Those bs, algorithm driven articles you see when you scan your news feed are not rumors. They are nothing. In fact, it could be argued they are less than nothing since their sudden absence would be a movement in the positive direction.

There are very few actual rumors floating around that we are privy to.