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Re: ATL - Braun 5/$125 million extension/Daniels 4/$100 Million 

Post#381 » by MikeIsGood » Mon Oct 20, 2025 10:54 pm

emunney wrote:Braun's a good player and plays very well off of Jokic, but it should be noted that this is a lot of money for a long time for a guard who doesn't create. He's better than what else they've got but I don't think you'd have to spend 125m to 100% replace him.


I get your overall point (bolded), but it's worth continuing to note that this just isn't a lot of money anymore. His ACV on this season's cap would be 16.2% - which will be even lower when the extension actually kicks in, but for ease of example I'm going with it. It's the equivalent of an 11M ACV 10 seasons ago. That's what Denver paid Wilson Chandler that season; he was injured that entire season, but he was a 14/6 player on way worse efficiency the season prior.

Braun's 24. Seems like nothing to whine about on either side IMO :shrug:
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Re: ATL - Braun 5/$125 million extension/Daniels 4/$100 Million 

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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#383 » by yb90 » Tue Oct 21, 2025 5:09 am

Toppin or/and Mathurin could become available later in the year.
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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#384 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Oct 21, 2025 3:09 pm

I don't watch a ton of regular season NBA games. At least not complete games. I might tune in with a few minutes left of a close game. Tonight I will check out the games on NBC, I want to see their presentation, graphics, etc... And to see if they've butchered Roundball Rock (don't mess with a good thing!)

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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#385 » by KidA24 » Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:35 pm

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Re: ATL - Braun 5/$125 million extension/Daniels 4/$100 Million 

Post#386 » by emunney » Tue Oct 21, 2025 5:25 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:
emunney wrote:Braun's a good player and plays very well off of Jokic, but it should be noted that this is a lot of money for a long time for a guard who doesn't create. He's better than what else they've got but I don't think you'd have to spend 125m to 100% replace him.


I get your overall point (bolded), but it's worth continuing to note that this just isn't a lot of money anymore. His ACV on this season's cap would be 16.2% - which will be even lower when the extension actually kicks in, but for ease of example I'm going with it. It's the equivalent of an 11M ACV 10 seasons ago. That's what Denver paid Wilson Chandler that season; he was injured that entire season, but he was a 14/6 player on way worse efficiency the season prior.

Braun's 24. Seems like nothing to whine about on either side IMO :shrug:


I appreciate this and I do understand the context here, and I'm not trying to say this is an absurd deal from any point of view. It feels to me like an assertion that he's going to be a top 75 player over the course of this contract and I'm not there with him. It's like a longer version of Steph's ankle-discount 2nd contract, but more straightforward / with less variance baked in.
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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#387 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Oct 21, 2025 5:44 pm

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Re: ATL - Braun 5/$125 million extension/Daniels 4/$100 Million 

Post#388 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:16 pm

emunney wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:
emunney wrote:Braun's a good player and plays very well off of Jokic, but it should be noted that this is a lot of money for a long time for a guard who doesn't create. He's better than what else they've got but I don't think you'd have to spend 125m to 100% replace him.


I get your overall point (bolded), but it's worth continuing to note that this just isn't a lot of money anymore. His ACV on this season's cap would be 16.2% - which will be even lower when the extension actually kicks in, but for ease of example I'm going with it. It's the equivalent of an 11M ACV 10 seasons ago. That's what Denver paid Wilson Chandler that season; he was injured that entire season, but he was a 14/6 player on way worse efficiency the season prior.

Braun's 24. Seems like nothing to whine about on either side IMO :shrug:


I appreciate this and I do understand the context here, and I'm not trying to say this is an absurd deal from any point of view. It feels to me like an assertion that he's going to be a top 75 player over the course of this contract and I'm not there with him. It's like a longer version of Steph's ankle-discount 2nd contract, but more straightforward / with less variance baked in.



Braun had been really good in the regular season, but can't make a shot in the playoffs. That's a real problem.
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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#389 » by Wonka » Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:40 pm

Steven Adams getting a huge positive reaction from the OKC fans, then announcing KD to raucous boos was hilarious to me :lol: I agree with them.
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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#390 » by ReginaldDwight » Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:46 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I don't watch a ton of regular season NBA games. At least not complete games. I might tune in with a few minutes left of a close game. Tonight I will check out the games on NBC, I want to see their presentation, graphics, etc... And to see if they've butchered Roundball Rock (don't mess with a good thing!)

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Play-by-Play: Mike Tirico
Analysts: Reggie Miller, Jamal Crawford
Reporter: Zora Stephenson
Studio Host: Maria Taylor
Studio Analysts: Carmelo Anthony, Vince Carter

Second game:

Play-by-Play: Noah Eagle
Analyst: Grant Hill
Reporter: Ashley ShahAhmadi
Studio Host: Ahmed Fareed
Studio Analyst: Tracy McGrady

Dont worrry they didnt change roundball rock but they seem ready to play it to death.
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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#391 » by blazza18 » Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:50 pm

Surprised to see some empty seats given how nuts this fanbase is.
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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#392 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:53 pm

blazza18 wrote:Surprised to see some empty seats given how nuts this fanbase is.
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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#393 » by Ayt » Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:59 pm

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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#394 » by MikeIsGood » Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:59 pm

I don't like the score bug. Whats with the chunky/centered trend?
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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#395 » by ReginaldDwight » Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:10 am

MikeIsGood wrote:I don't like the score bug. Whats with the chunky/centered trend?

Trendy as hell right now. Thunder are annoying to watch.
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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#396 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:12 am

Really dumb to start the season in October

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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#397 » by German Athens » Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:52 am

Wait, protecting shooters is a point of emphasis this year? Weren’t they already more protected than anyone else?
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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#398 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:53 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Really dumb to start the season in October

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Well there's only 2 baseball teams and none playing until Friday. Football goes until December/January for college and pros. I'm a huge fan of the late covid start because summer time playoff basketball rocks but I don't see fans getting more excited for a mid-november start when it cold and snowy. Am I missing another conflict?
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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#399 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Oct 22, 2025 1:05 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:Really dumb to start the season in October

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Well there's only 2 baseball teams and none playing until Friday. Football goes until December/January for college and pros. I'm a huge fan of the late covid start because summer time playoff basketball rocks but I don't see fans getting more excited for a mid-november start when it cold and snowy. Am I missing another conflict?

No. I'm more about a shorter season starting on Xmas day (never happen). It's hard to hold casual fans attention for 6 months and then another 2 months of playoffs.
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Re: ATL - Nesmith 2/$40.4 extension 

Post#400 » by German Athens » Wed Oct 22, 2025 1:12 am

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