Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

[Sherman Douglas]

This is what I was worried about, Bledsoe aside. Lin and Vasquez are Herb Kohl-esque win now moves. Kidd wants to win now.

We'd be giving up nothing in the Lin trade. We'd receive other assets in return for something like a protected second round pick or the draft rights to Eurelijus Zukauskas.

I guess. But it just seems anti-Tank to me and takes away playing time from Wolters.

[Sherman Douglas]

I fail to see how any of these are win now moves. Lin certainly isn't. Bledsoe and Vazquez are young needs.


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Vasquez is 27. Not really young.

[Max Green]

This is what I was worried about, Bledsoe aside. Lin and Vasquez are Herb Kohl-esque win now moves. Kidd wants to win now.

Lin is an expiring and Vasquez is a backup, he ain't adding any wins. This is a "We don't believe Brandon Knight is a Point Guard" move. Signing Jameer Nelson to a multi-year contract is a Kohl-esque win-now move.

[cinematographer]

Can someone explain to me the appeal of Lin or Vasquez? I'm honestly surprised everyone isn't 100% against those moves. Those guys are not impact players but the kind of "limbo" signing we'd expect from Kohl/Hammond that seems aimed at getting us the 8th seed.

Bledsoe I like.

It isn't trading for Lin, it's using the capspace to absorb his $8m hit (and the $15m he's owed) to get assets from HOU. Hopefully Capela.

[bucksfansince88]

I dont understand how you guys think Bledsoe is the PG savior and Knight has no Chance at PG. knight is the bigger PG and has put up equal if not better numbers both on last year and career as a whole. ill take the guy thats 2years younger with just as good numbers and i think hes a better shooter. ppl are Willing to pay bledsoe 12-15 mil per year and ive read people cringe about knight on a teague like deal. I personally think knight is the better prospect, and i think his game will blossom under Kidd, just my humble opinion though.

[jr lucosa]

Can someone explain to me the appeal of Lin or Vasquez? I'm honestly surprised everyone isn't 100% against those moves. Those guys are not impact players but the kind of "limbo" signing we'd expect from Kohl/Hammond that seems aimed at getting us the 8th seed.

Bledsoe I like.

With Lin it's more about what potential prospects/picks would be coming with him. Vasquez can create offense for our young players. On a one year deal he'd be a fine backup for Wolters, he's not good enough to lead us to the 8th seed.

[Sherman Douglas]

It isn't trading for Lin, it's using the capspace to absorb his $8m hit (and the $15m he's owed) to get assets from HOU. Hopefully Capela.

Well that'd be good since according to wikipedia Capela is "one of the top prospects in the 2014 NBA draft."

Source: Clint Capela's agent

[cinematographer]

This is what I was worried about, Bledsoe aside. Lin and Vasquez are Herb Kohl-esque win now moves. Kidd wants to win now.

We'd be giving up nothing in the Lin trade. We'd receive other assets in return for something like a protected second round pick or the draft rights to Eurelijus Zukauskas.

I guess. But it just seems anti-Tank to me and takes away playing time from Wolters.

Not necessarily. If Bledsoe is a sign-and-trade, Knight would be gone, and Wolters is in a three-headed Hydra with Bledsoe and Lin/General Greivis.

[On_Wisconsin]

1. I'd riot if we gave up Giannis for Bledsoe

2. That said, I'd love a trio of Bledsoe/Giannis/Parker. Hopefully Sanders too, but I'm less optimistic about him than the other 3.

3. Next find a SG to fit with them and roll.


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[ampd]

The reason I don't like any of this is because I don't trust Hammond dealing with these gms. Those guys are like lions and Hammond is the injured gazelle that strayed from the pack. I don't think any good could come from this

This is where our meddling shark owners and kidd actually help us

[Serge28]

I think you guys are grossly underestimating Vasquez. Just 2 years ago, he started 78 games and put up 14/4/9. How many guys in the league can average 9 assists over a whole season? He'll get our young guys the ball, he'll know his role, and he'll be a great threat from the outside. He's damn near perfect for the Bucks. He can help our young guys grow over the next 5 years and then split time with Wolters/whoever. The guy just flat out playing smart winning basketball. We're not getting Bledsoe and Lin is crap.

[Bernman]

That's nonsense. Ish Smith was getting a lot of minutes even with healthy Bledsoe and Dragic. The Suns needed upgrade at backup PG as much as anywhere else in the rotation. And what big men were available in the draft at #18? Stokes and McGary? Puh-lease.

Payne and Nurkic were available at 14, they could have packaged 18 with 14 to move up to get a big more of their liking, and you don't draft a #2 or 3 on the depth chart (Dragic is naturally a point) with #18 in a good draft. So puh-lease right back at you sir.

[Chuck Diesel]

I like Vasquez but he makes zero sense. There are much cheaper alternatives available who could split time with Wolters. Lin I would want only for the additional Houston assets. Fine players in the right situation but in Milwaukee these guys just bring us closer to mediocrity.

[gaspar]

That's nonsense. Ish Smith was getting a lot of minutes even with healthy Bledsoe and Dragic. The Suns needed upgrade at backup PG as much as anywhere else in the rotation. And what big men were available in the draft at #18? Stokes and McGary? Puh-lease.

Payne and Nurkic were available at 14, they could have packaged 18 with 14 to move up to get a big more of their liking, and you don't draft a #2 or 3 on the depth chart (Dragic is naturally a point) with #18 in a good draft. So puh-lease right back at you sir.

Neither Payne nor Nurkic would be starting for the Suns.

[coolhandluke121]

This is what I was worried about, Bledsoe aside. Lin and Vasquez are Herb Kohl-esque win now moves. Kidd wants to win now.

Lin would be an asset grab and Vasquez would be a stop gap guy who can get the ball to our young stars.

Exactly. I would especially like to add Lin. Doesn't hurt the tank, lets the Bucks play high-octane ball on offense, and gets them an asset. Probably a great business move as well. That's exactly the kind of move we always wished Kohl would do. That's what rebuilding teams do with cap space.

Vasquez could make them noticeably better. Knight's inability to get people the ball went a long way towards their dream season. I would be worried about Vasquez being their homeless man's Nash, but would accept it and just hope that Parker and Giannis turn out to be stars while Sanders and Ersan return to form for the next few years.

Bledsoe could make them a perennial 50-win team in the East for the foreseeable future if they get him for assets who aren't contributing much right now (mainly Henson + future picks).

[dedned]

I'd rather go with Knight.

[cinematographer]

I dont understand how you guys think Bledsoe is the PG savior and Knight has no Chance at PG. knight is the bigger PG and has put up equal if not better numbers both on last year and career as a whole. ill take the guy thats 2years younger with just as good numbers and i think hes a better shooter. ppl are Willing to pay bledsoe 12-15 mil per year and ive read people cringe about knight on a teague like deal. I personally think knight is the better prospect, and i think his game will blossom under Kidd, just my humble opinion though.

Look at my post on the first page. Bledsoe has an in-reach ceiling for his penetration game and he's a destroyer of offenses. Right now he's contributing far more to wins than Knight and if his offensive game becomes more surgical, he's a top 25 player.

A max offer would be a bet that Kidd makes Bledsoe's offensive impact catch up with his physical tools. It's risky, but at least we'd be getting an elite skill from it, regardless of how much polish his offensive game ultimately gets.

[Max Green]

I dont understand how you guys think Bledsoe is the PG savior and Knight has no Chance at PG. knight is the bigger PG and has put up equal if not better numbers both on last year and career as a whole. ill take the guy thats 2years younger with just as good numbers and i think hes a better shooter. ppl are Willing to pay bledsoe 12-15 mil per year and ive read people cringe about knight on a teague like deal. I personally think knight is the better prospect, and i think his game will blossom under Kidd, just my humble opinion though.

I like Knight, he's a great guy, I'm more then willing to give him a chance to play under Kidd but his lack of Court Vision and PG instincts is what is holding him back. I don't know if it's due to his tunnel vision but he just doesn't see the floor well and can't run the Pick and Roll.

[El Duderino]

1. I'd riot if we gave up Giannis for Bledsoe

2. That said, I'd love a trio of Bledsoe/Giannis/Parker. Hopefully Sanders too, but I'm less optimistic about him than the other 3.

3. Next find a SG to fit with them and roll.


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The Bucks aren't going to trade Giannis under any circumstances, so you can relax on that.

[Fresh_Prince12]

If we do a sign and trade for Bledsoe don't be surprise if Giannis is going back to the suns. What other assets do we honestly have?

We should be shocked about that. Giannis projects to be a bigger part of the future than Bledosoe would be with his size, effort, and unique skill-set. I'm 99% sure he wouldn't be exchanged for Bledsoe.

And what other assets do we honestly have? We have a lot, i.e.: Henson, Knight, maybe Sanders, maybe Ilyasova, Middleton, future 1sts, etc. All of whom would more likely be jettisoned in an s&t for Bledsoe than Giannis. Why should they get more than Henson and Knight? An S&T is successful for the team doing the initial signing so long as they get any value in it. People should have seen they weren't dead-set on maxing out Bledsoe when they drafted Ennis instead of big help which they desperately need. Either they aren't sold that he's worth the max, or they have different ideas for how to allocate their funds the next few years like making a run at LBJ, Bosh, Melo, Wade, etc.

These guys are good but still low impact players. The suns are full of them. Why would they want them