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Big 3 needed? Who is the target? Draft, FA or trade?

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What position is needed for the 3rd star?

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Post#41 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:23 pm

cinematographer wrote:Chicago is cheap. A lot of their team bloggers don't think they match Butler, unless he's an all-star this year.

(He's definitely all-star impact)


I'd all be all for offering Butler the four-year max of 4/$68 or whatever the max number is. Yeah, he is worth it.

I just think that after push comes to shove, Reinsdorf and crew will complain but match. You just can't lose an all-star caliber player that defends for nothing. That's why I'd have Butler be plan "A" but for give it a probability of 1% of happening, so plan B is more important.
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Post#42 » by SkilesTheLimit » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:31 pm

Yes, Butler is Target #1 this off-season. I'd max him and not think twice. When I asked the Bulls board a few weeks back, it was a foregone conclusion they would match -- even a max deal.

I think they trade wind up trading Taj Gibson to give them some flexibility. He's expendable now that they have Gasol.

I think Rondo fits with Giannis/Jabari amazingly well. We know he won't take shots away from them and doesn't need to shoot to make an impact (like Knight).
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Post#43 » by LUKE23 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:32 pm

I don't think Rondo fits well. For one, he'll be 29 in February. Secondly, no jumper and that's something we really need out of our PG. There is no way I'd give assets for him.
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Post#44 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:32 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:you guys need to unblock my ass off all your foes lists and please tell me wtf im missing about jrue holiday. statistically hes having his best year in NO. obviously I haven't watched him this year so what gives? :(


I'm not watching much of the NOLA team, so wouldn't pretend to know details. But I do see a team that has Anthony Davis on it that is sub .500. When you see a situation like that, it tells me they've got a PG who isn't impacting wins like he should.


fair enough... but I was certainly hoping for something less vague than that. there can be all sorts of reasons they are "struggling" in the tough western conference (if you even want to call it that). that's tough as hell to put it on holiday. he certainly didn't seem to hurt the chemistry in philly, when he was even more inefficient than he is now.

my sense is he was a golden boy pg, who got traded to a rebuilding baby team. 21 yo davis who doesn't know how to win yet. tyreke playing better but still tyreke. I feel like were gonna wake up one day and NO is going to be all of a sudden pounding people and jrue is gonna be viewed like conley and damn near untouchable again. maybe kind of like the cycle we saw with GS where theyre like meh and then all of a sudden boom they arrive all at once.

maybe im way off. I haven't been watching them so I easily could be talking out of my ass.
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Post#45 » by SkilesTheLimit » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:36 pm

LUKE23 wrote:I don't think Rondo fits well. For one, he'll be 29 in February. Secondly, no jumper and that's something we really need out of our PG. There is no way I'd give assets for him.


I understand his shooting limitations. He fits because he's pass-first and his game is all about setting up teammates. If Giannis and Jabari are truly "stars" he will do for them what he did for KG & Pierce.

His age doesn't bother me as much as his injury history does.

If we had a true SG who could hit the 3 consistently, it wouldn't matter much that Rondo's shot is broke.
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Post#46 » by Siefer » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:38 pm

I'd love to see what we can get for Ersan and Mayo (Middleton, Wolters, and Henson should all be on the table as well), land a good pick (6-10 is more realistic than top 5), and make a max offer to Jimmy Butler.
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Post#47 » by Nebula1 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:38 pm

It will be very interesting to see what Atlanta does with Teague and Schroder, especially since they are playing so well and really only a SG/SF away from being pretty good in the East.

I think Rondo is a terrible idea and the Bucks still need a young point to balance this team appropriately.

My vote has been with and staying with Schroder (or Teague?), McCollum or Ennis.
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Post#48 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:40 pm

People dreaming of Schroeder may want to check in on Grantland today. Lowe wrote about him.
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Post#49 » by DavidDunn21 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:40 pm

Knight is our shooting guard now. He's the only one who doesn't know it. If we somehow got Rondo or a top flight PG, we'd be stacked with Knight in the Jamal Crawford role.

However, one could just as easily argue that LARRY! is never going to get it, and what we really need is the top flight center so LARRY! can be our Joakim Noah type. Of the two options, I voted center, but I admit it is a close call.
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Post#50 » by chonestown » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:45 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:People dreaming of Schroeder may want to check in on Grantland today. Lowe wrote about him.


Beat me to it.

Looks like it's time to move on to white pg from Duke.
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Post#51 » by GoldenAntlers » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:45 pm

I think Rondo fits wonderfully with Jiannibari and he would be able to get Sanders some easy hoops, even for Sanders. He offers a different brand of veteran presence than the likes of Ilyasova and Dudley. There are vets who have been in the league and vets who have won championships. I prefer the winners.

Rondo
Knight
Giannis
Jabari
Sanders

Looks good to me.

Rondo has a few years of ball handling and passing in him, so I don't think we have to worry about him going RIP as the young studs emerge. Honestly, I'm not too sure how he is on defense, but with those other 4 guys in the lineup it shouldn't be too big of an issue. How sturdy his body is would be my main concern at this point. Also, whether or not we can afford that lineup might be an issue.

Butler would be a great addition. I am not as familiar with Matthews game, but from what I know he would be good on the team as well. A center who can score an defend would be great, but if I have to choose, I choose defensive center every time. I think Sanders will pull it together. Actually, I think by seasons end (and to a lesser extent, by the trade deadline) we will know what our actual core will be. These players more than not appear to be embracing Kidd's methodology and I think it will payoff by and large.
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Post#52 » by Nebula1 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:46 pm

Rondo isn't going to another rebuilding project. Cmon. Giannis and Jabari are years away from contending for anything real and Rondo isn't going to waste another contract trying to get those guys there.
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Post#53 » by BucksFanSD » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:47 pm

Anybody going after Rondo is going to overpay and also risk another injury as he ages and is coming off one.

Marshall works great as a starter since he has a proven 3 pointer and is a great distributer to Giannis and Jabari. Nate works great off the bench as he can get to the rim and can distribute to our 3 point bench shooters (Middleton, Ersan, Dudley, Bayless).

Knight can be packaged and sold high (for a lottery pick for example). Rather if you package Nate or Marshall you are selling low, almost giving them away.
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Post#54 » by GoldenAntlers » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:48 pm

GoldenAntlers wrote:I think Rondo fits wonderfully with Jiannibari and he would be able to get Sanders some easy hoops, even for Sanders. He offers a different brand of veteran presence than the likes of Ilyasova and Dudley. There are vets who have been in the league and vets who have won championships. I prefer the winners.

Rondo
Knight
Giannis
Jabari
Sanders

Looks good to me.

Rondo has a few years of ball handling and passing in him, so I don't think we have to worry about him going RIP as the young studs emerge. Honestly, I'm not too sure how he is on defense, but with those other 4 guys in the lineup it shouldn't be too big of an issue. How sturdy his body is would be my main concern at this point. Also, whether or not we can afford that lineup might be an issue.

Butler would be a great addition. I am not as familiar with Matthews game, but from what I know he would be good on the team as well. A center who can score an defend would be great, but if I have to choose, I choose defensive center every time. I think Sanders will pull it together and I think he likes being a Buck, which is historically a rare quality in an NBA player. I think by seasons end (and to a lesser extent, by the trade deadline) we will know who our core will be. This team, more than not, appears to embrace Kidd's methodology and I think it will payoff by and large.
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Post#55 » by Diggr14 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:49 pm

No to rondo.. when these guys (giannis and parker are 25) Rondo will be too old or perpetually injured.

Stay away from that.

I would let Hammond keep on drafting. He's done a pretty good job identifying talent. Henson is a very serviceable 5 for the future. I would be shopping Larry and Knight now.. start stockpiling 1sts with limited protection... even if they are in 2016-2017.
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Post#56 » by Chapter29 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:51 pm

Big 3 needed? Yes.

Do we have 2 of the 3 currently? Probably

Do we have our top dog of this big 3? Maybe.....Probably not.

With that said, what position should this player be? Any position not currently held by Giannis and Parker is my answer. It doesn't really matter, talent wins.
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Post#57 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 6:01 pm

Nebula1 wrote:Rondo isn't going to another rebuilding project.


I think he's going to whoever pays him the most. At his age he's still got one big payday left in him and he needs that.

If Kidd and our new owners full court press to get him and offer him 3/$50, I think he's playing in Milwaukee next year. New Era -- The Bucks aren't the hapless franchise that won't win for another 3-5 years if ever like say the Pistons are.

The question is do WE want that? My guess is no, but I'm willing to be talked into it by the Rondo fans on here.
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Post#58 » by ReKon » Fri Dec 5, 2014 6:14 pm

I d prefer Dragic over Rondo to be honest.He already said that he s opting out and i don t think he wants to stay in Phoenix
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Post#59 » by Nebula1 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 6:15 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
Nebula1 wrote:Rondo isn't going to another rebuilding project.


I think he's going to whoever pays him the most. At his age he's still got one big payday left in him and he needs that.

If Kidd and our new owners full court press to get him and offer him 3/$50, I think he's playing in Milwaukee next year. New Era -- The Bucks aren't the hapless franchise that won't win for another 3-5 years if ever like say the Pistons are.

The question is do WE want that? My guess is no, but I'm willing to be talked into it by the Rondo fans on here.



For sure, some guys will go for the money, but I would bet against him landing on a rebuild next season unless it's somebody like the Lakers. My money bets against him going to Milwaukee and I'd hate to see another Gary Payton type deal.

I do think a Jeff Teague is an interesting name given the history with the Bucks and the play of Schroder. Or even Schroder himself.

I think Rondo lands with Houston or possibly Miami.. somebody like that.

I also think the Bucks need to remind themselves their two brightest spots are 19 years old.
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Post#60 » by BucksFanSD » Fri Dec 5, 2014 6:18 pm

Until I see Jabari or Giannis hitting 3s with ease, our next huge FA guard acquisition will need to hit the outside shot. At least if they want to start with Giannis and Jabari.

Also, if we max Rondo and he gets injured again well then there goes our title hopes.

There are better options.

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