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Re: PG Portland - Backcourt Domination 

Post#41 » by sdn40 » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:17 am

You can't complain about Bledsoe when Giannis does 10 dumb things EVERY game
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Post#42 » by Bucksmaniac » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:18 am

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Which of my points do you want to dispute? This is a player others are expecting MVP level performance from. He is constantly passing up the open 3 for the long 2, exactly what we hated from Midds last year.

Except we hated it from Midds because he is a talented shooter capable of making 3's, Giannis has never been a good shooter and is trying to build his own confidence.

And souring on Giannis? LOL. Look at the numbers he's putting up and the impact he's having on a game at 23 years old, it's unreal. He's doing all that while needing to improve in the areas you pointed out. You want to bail on a 23 year old with Giannis' work ethic and bet against him figuring it out? Have you been a fan the last decade plus? Giannis needs to be held accountable, but he's still an ultra elite talent.


It's just disappointing because if there was a season he was going to improve his shooting, I figured it would be this one with Bud in tow. Giannis' game is 90% power and physical skill, 10% finesse. Most of the greats have a balanced combo of both. I feel if you put a lot of heady players in his body, they could be MVP, but I'm not sure the IQ and finesse will ever be there for him).
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Post#43 » by thomchatt3rton » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:18 am

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thomchatt3rton wrote:I'm starting to sour on Giannis. He's not perfect and I don't think he'll ever be at this point.


He needs to not turn it over 6 times a game.


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Post#44 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:19 am

Portland is really good. Wish we had more worthwhile barometers like them in the east.
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Re: PG Portland - Backcourt Domination 

Post#45 » by bizarro » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:19 am

sdn40 wrote:You can't complain about Bledsoe when Giannis does 10 dumb things EVERY game


You can complain about Bledsoe because he does nothing as violent, skilled, or impactful as Giannis. Nothing.
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Post#46 » by thataintitchief » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:19 am

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Post#47 » by Magic Giannison » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:19 am

Coach Carter wrote:Regarding giannis

the good: Looking like prime shaq in the paint

the bad: cant shoot and worse he scared to shoot (even a long 2), turnovers, indecisiveness

What about his best defense in the league and his passing?>
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Post#48 » by Coach Carter » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:19 am

have to say that was the best ive seen portland defend, their scrubs were getting stuck in
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Post#49 » by rj_dio » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:20 am

sdn40 wrote:You can't complain about Bledsoe when Giannis does 10 dumb things EVERY game


OK.

The impact Giannis has on the game is orders of magnitude greater than Bledsoe.

Bledsoe has no place on this team. He won't be here next year.
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Post#50 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:20 am

thomchatt3rton wrote:I'm starting to sour on Giannis. He's not perfect and I don't think he'll ever be at this point.

I think there's something seriously wrong with your expectations.
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Post#51 » by Coach Carter » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:20 am

Magic Giannison wrote:
Coach Carter wrote:Regarding giannis

the good: Looking like prime shaq in the paint

the bad: cant shoot and worse he scared to shoot (even a long 2), turnovers, indecisiveness

What about his best defense in the league and his passing?>


for 2nite i meant
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Post#52 » by FlagsFlyForever » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:20 am

trwi7 wrote:
thomchatt3rton wrote:I'm starting to sour on Giannis. He's not perfect and I don't think he'll ever be at this point.


He needs to not turn it over 6 times a game.

This is true. Giannis has faults, such as his shooting, which may never come around. But he also seems to make a lot of poor decisions each game which is something he can learn to avoid with experience. In other words, he still has room to improve.
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Post#53 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:21 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:Portland is really good. Wish we had more worthwhile barometers like them in the east.


we do honestly. their basically gs lite. we needed to score more tonight
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Post#54 » by sdn40 » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:21 am

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sdn40 wrote:You can't complain about Bledsoe when Giannis does 10 dumb things EVERY game


You can complain about Bledsoe because he does nothing as violent, skilled, or impactful as Giannis. Nothing.


If you mean other than run the point better than anyone on the team, then yes. Or play defense better than anyone. And when he's on he hits shots as well as anyone. Other than those numerous things, you're right
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Post#55 » by Coach Carter » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:22 am

the help defense on giannis was really good and we talking about the likes of collins and leonard lol
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Re: PG Portland - Backcourt Domination 

Post#56 » by Bucksmaniac » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:22 am

Magic Giannison wrote:
Coach Carter wrote:Regarding giannis

the good: Looking like prime shaq in the paint

the bad: cant shoot and worse he scared to shoot (even a long 2), turnovers, indecisiveness

What about his best defense in the league and his passing?>


His defense yes, but his passing positive is negated by continual five and six turnover games.
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Re: PG Portland - Backcourt Domination 

Post#57 » by Magic Giannison » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:23 am

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Which of my points do you want to dispute? This is a player others are expecting MVP level performance from. He is constantly passing up the open 3 for the long 2, exactly what we hated from Midds last year.

Except we hated it from Midds because he is a talented shooter capable of making 3's, Giannis has never been a good shooter and is trying to build his own confidence.

And souring on Giannis? LOL. Look at the numbers he's putting up and the impact he's having on a game at 23 years old, it's unreal. He's doing all that while needing to improve in the areas you pointed out. You want to bail on a 23 year old with Giannis' work ethic and bet against him figuring it out? Have you been a fan the last decade plus? Giannis needs to be held accountable, but he's still an ultra elite talent.


It's just disappointing because if there was a season he was going to improve his shooting, I figured it would be this one with Bud in tow. Giannis' game is 90% power and physical skill, 10% finesse. Most of the greats have a balanced combo of both. I feel if you put a lot of heady players in his body, they could be MVP, but I'm not sure the IQ and finesse will ever be there for him).

Why you focus on shooting when he is one of the most efficient guys on the league averaging 26 points on not so many attempts.he literally does everything on the court on both ends, yes shooting would be nice but trying to make a big deal out of it like the reason we aren't good is because Giannis cant shoot 3s.

His only problem right now are turnovers and those are mainly due to increased usage and some weird calls.

Giannis sat in the third under 3 minutes and Blazers brought the deficit to 16 points in that span, this crap happens way more times than it should.
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Re: PG Portland - Backcourt Domination 

Post#58 » by imithanos » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:24 am

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Bucksmaniac wrote:
Which of my points do you want to dispute? This is a player others are expecting MVP level performance from. He is constantly passing up the open 3 for the long 2, exactly what we hated from Midds last year.

Except we hated it from Midds because he is a talented shooter capable of making 3's, Giannis has never been a good shooter and is trying to build his own confidence.

And souring on Giannis? LOL. Look at the numbers he's putting up and the impact he's having on a game at 23 years old, it's unreal. He's doing all that while needing to improve in the areas you pointed out. You want to bail on a 23 year old with Giannis' work ethic and bet against him figuring it out? Have you been a fan the last decade plus? Giannis needs to be held accountable, but he's still an ultra elite talent.


It's just disappointing because if there was a season he was going to improve his shooting, I figured it would be this one with Bud in tow. Giannis' game is 90% power and physical skill, 10% finesse. Most of the greats have a balanced combo of both. I feel if you put a lot of heady players in his body, they could be MVP, but I'm not sure the IQ and finesse will ever be there for him).


You don't know what you're talking, right?
Apart from all the other points the other mentioned. No finesse. From Giannis? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: PG Portland - Backcourt Domination 

Post#59 » by greekbuck34 » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:25 am

Bucksmaniac wrote:
Magic Giannison wrote:
Coach Carter wrote:Regarding giannis

the good: Looking like prime shaq in the paint

the bad: cant shoot and worse he scared to shoot (even a long 2), turnovers, indecisiveness

What about his best defense in the league and his passing?>


His defense yes, but his passing positive is negated by continual five and six turnover games.


His turnovers are mainly charges/travels and hacks without foul calls and they were a lot this season increasing his turnovers.
He rarely has terrible passes.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote: I think that we will do worse than last season and that Giannis is now just a mere all star. All because we switched from Bud to Griffin.
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Re: PG Portland - Backcourt Domination 

Post#60 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Wed Nov 7, 2018 5:25 am

last year when we went to Portland brogdon was out and Bledsoe went off for 25 on 10-17. just a game. move on

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