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WiscoKing13 · Post #41 » by **WiscoKing13** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 3:58 pm

First injury post Bud. Should be interesting to see how Griffin deals with relying time frames when asked during summer league.

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Profound23 · Post #42 » by **Profound23** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 4:36 pm

All I know is Giannis has sacrificed his body for this team time after time. When his career is over we will all miss him.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #43 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 4:48 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I imagine the reason this was done now and not 2 months ago is so he has a valid reason to skip the WC

I wonder if there is any pre surgery prep or exercises that can be done to make the surgery more successful. The season is such a grind, that I would not be shocked if his muscles/lingaments, etc were fragile/tight/whatever that if you rest, do stretching, streghtening of certain compensating muscles etc before-hand so you can have better results.

I'm throwing crap out there as I really have no idea what is involved and what does or not impact the surgery.

skones · Post #44 » by **skones** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 4:52 pm

Milbucks96 wrote:Is this the first surgery of his career? I knew something was coming for him but I expected the wrist because that looked bad ever since he banged it up.

I'd be stunned if this was the first time he's had a cleanup in his career. The only reason we're hearing about it is because the World Cup is around the corner. This stuff in pretty routine for athletes given the wear and tear their bodies experience.

skones · Post #45 » by **skones** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 4:57 pm

Profound23 wrote:All I know is Giannis has sacrificed his body for this team time after time. When his career is over we will all miss him.

It should be obvious to all of us, especially those who have been here for a while that these ARE the "Those were the days" years.

Milbucks96 · Post #46 » by **Milbucks96** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:08 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:I imagine the reason this was done now and not 2 months ago is so he has a valid reason to skip the WC

I wonder if there is any pre surgery prep or exercises that can be done to make the surgery more successful. The season is such a grind, that I would not be shocked if his muscles/lingaments, etc were fragile/tight/whatever that if you rest, do stretching, streghtening of certain compensating muscles etc before-hand so you can have better results.

I'm throwing crap out there as I really have no idea what is involved and what does or not impact the surgery.

I remember last year when Khris had his surgery in the middle of the summer and it reminded me of a shaq qoute where he talked about rehabbing after vacationing and relaxing. To basically rehab on the teams time and not during his time. I imagine Giannis wanted to go home with his family and relax for a month or two before getting back to work.

Bodiroga13 · Post #47 » by **Bodiroga13** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:19 pm

Take some rest, Γιάνναρε. He needs it, a hard year is coming. Get well soon. A participation in World Cup could maybe be harmful, our National team is s*** anyway.

Post #48 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 9:26 pm

Was wondering why this thread got bumped.

Not great news. Just means he's mortal like everyone else, and the knees will ultimately deteriorate over time. How slow or how fast will be critical.

tydett · Post #49 » by **tydett** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 9:32 pm

skones wrote:
Profound23 wrote:All I know is Giannis has sacrificed his body for this team time after time. When his career is over we will all miss him.

It should be obvious to all of us, especially those who have been here for a while that these ARE the "Those were the days" years.

Some day 50 years in the future when my grandchildren are talking about how LeBron James IV is the real GOAT, I'll remind 'em that Charles Antetokounmpo's grandfather was the best player I'd ever seen live.

Jez2983 · Post #50 » by **Jez2983** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 10:04 pm

skones wrote:
Milbucks96 wrote:Is this the first surgery of his career? I knew something was coming for him but I expected the wrist because that looked bad ever since he banged it up.

I'd be stunned if this was the first time he's had a cleanup in his career. The only reason we're hearing about it is because the World Cup is around the corner. This stuff in pretty routine for athletes given the wear and tear their bodies experience.

Research suggests that 'clean ups' may actually accelerate the breakdown of the articular surface, which is why they are done far more sparingly. The term clean up itself belies the fact that it can be quite a significant surgery.

skones · Post #51 » by **skones** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 10:11 pm

Jez2983 wrote:
skones wrote:
Milbucks96 wrote:Is this the first surgery of his career? I knew something was coming for him but I expected the wrist because that looked bad ever since he banged it up.

I'd be stunned if this was the first time he's had a cleanup in his career. The only reason we're hearing about it is because the World Cup is around the corner. This stuff in pretty routine for athletes given the wear and tear their bodies experience.

Research suggests that 'clean ups' may actually accelerate the breakdown of the articular surface, which is why they are done far more sparingly. The term clean up itself belies the fact that it can be quite a significant surgery.

Given the persistent knee issues he's had for years, what's more likely? They waited this long to do the first one? Or this isn't the first rodeo?

Ayt · Post #52 » by **Ayt** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 10:46 pm

emunney wrote:10 years ago Ayt made some posts

I was so drunk I'm surprised I was even coherent. That was a bad, bad time.

RogerMurdock · Post #53 » by **RogerMurdock** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 10:58 pm

skones wrote:
Profound23 wrote:All I know is Giannis has sacrificed his body for this team time after time. When his career is over we will all miss him.

It should be obvious to all of us, especially those who have been here for a while that these ARE the "Those were the days" years.

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worthlessBucks · Post #54 » by **worthlessBucks** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 12:12 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Was wondering why this thread got bumped.

Not great news. Just means he's mortal like everyone else, and the knees will ultimately deteriorate over time. How slow or how fast will be critical.

Can always fall back on his jumper and post moves when his knees go. Oh.

Shaffty · Post #55 » by **Shaffty** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 12:21 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Was wondering why this thread got bumped.

Not great news. Just means he's mortal like everyone else, and the knees will ultimately deteriorate over time. How slow or how fast will be critical.

Its pretty funny he just ignored the pain im assuming that has been there since the finals

Daver · Post #56 » by **Daver** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 12:24 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Was wondering why this thread got bumped.

Not great news. Just means he's mortal like everyone else, and the knees will ultimately deteriorate over time. How slow or how fast will be critical.

See is when you need a coach to try to keep giannis from doing so many of those run through the wall plays and tone down his game to be more inside but the problem is his low post game sucks to whatever

Daver · Post #57 » by **Daver** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 12:26 am

worthlessBucks wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Was wondering why this thread got bumped.

Not great news. Just means he's mortal like everyone else, and the knees will ultimately deteriorate over time. How slow or how fast will be critical.

Can always fall back on his jumper and post moves when his knees go. Oh.[/quote

To bad he never in 7 years ever worked on his low post gane or his jumpers to actually ve able to do either

emunney · Post #58 » by **emunney** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 12:26 am

Ayt wrote:
emunney wrote:10 years ago Ayt made some posts

I was so drunk I'm surprised I was even coherent. That was a bad, bad time.

It's only memorable to me because it was so unusual.

GoldenAntlers · Post #59 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 12:29 am

yannisk wrote:The talent dried up completely. Some of the biggest disappointments are Giannis's brothers. All of them are athletically gifted, Thanasis is excused as he started basketball late. Kostas is almost as tall as Giannis and he is not even a Euroleague rotation player. Kostas is not as tall but he should be able to play in the Greek league at least.

Whenever someone says that Giannis is only successful because he is so athletic, they have to be pointed to the rest of the Antetokoubros

Those boys were Americanized and gifted money and women. They didn't really have the same upbringing as Thanos and Freak.

HKPackFan · Post #60 » by **HKPackFan** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 12:46 am

GoldenAntlers wrote:
yannisk wrote:The talent dried up completely. Some of the biggest disappointments are Giannis's brothers. All of them are athletically gifted, Thanasis is excused as he started basketball late. Kostas is almost as tall as Giannis and he is not even a Euroleague rotation player. Kostas is not as tall but he should be able to play in the Greek league at least.

Whenever someone says that Giannis is only successful because he is so athletic, they have to be pointed to the rest of the Antetokoubros
Those boys were Americanized and gifted money and women. They didn't really have the same upbringing as Thanos and Freak.

I think there's something to this. They don't have memories of homelessness/grumbling bellies and that insatiable hunger the older brothers have.

They've grown up with amazing privilege and good for them. The older brothers wanted to take care of their family more than anything in the world.

There's always something beyond athletic gifts, motivation/mindset is difficult one to quantify and capture.