Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Looking like Bucks keep Mids, Brook, Jae

[lightningrodman]

Has Windhorst confirmed that the Wizards are in The Deal Zone with any of the Beal suitors? I find it hard to believe they are so motivated to move him that they’ll accept a Suns salary dump.

[JayMKE]

The money and age issues are why one of or both of Jrue or Khris need to be moved, I maintain the idea of giving Jrue a reduced role on offense by bumping him up to the 2 so he can sit in the corner watching until its his turn to iso is just a waste of money. Jrue is not a reliable player on offense, putting him at the 2 doesn't change that. He got humiliated by Jimmy, Jrue aint a wing defender either even his ego might think he is. People are screaming move Portis because he's not a playoff guy, neither is Jrue!

Get a PG, get a 3&D guard for way cheaper + a bunch of other assets, set it up so Giannis won't be forced to walk in 2 years because the plan right now seems to be blow our wad so completely & pray that Giannis is such a sentimentalist after winning another championship hopefully that he'll agree to stay with a franchise that gave up on building for the future for many years and has no assets going forward.

ITS OVER! MOVE ON! This team needs to stop trying to win the 2018 NBA championship, its 2023.

Get younger and cheaper NOW or ELSE

This is my thought exactly! The Bucks cannot afford to tie their future to a 35y.o. center, a 33y.o. PG/SG, and a 31y.o small forward with questionable health/fitness. The Bucks need to take this offseason to retool the team for the next run. Sticking with the current team is high risk/low reward and I don't really want to watch Giannis walk because the Bucks end up having Jrue retire and being stuck with overpaid/underperforming Middleton and Lopez.

Even if running it back did work out(doubtful) we're absolutely screwed in a couple years so doubling down is just walking off a cliff, I don't understand the logic of not reloading at this point other than pure sentimental attachment. Its suicide! We need to get value out of Jrue, Khris, Lopez before their expiration dates and they're worth nothing in order to build up our next championship core. These guys aren't bringing another one home, even if they could then they're literally retiring that day. I'm not willing to accept that Giannis is only here for the next 2 years and sacrificing everything for it, I'm building for the next decade.

[Daver]

I just want to see this team with another perimeter creator alongside Khris that will holdup offensively in the playoffs.

Question is whether we really need to trade Jrue to accomplish this.

Quickley, Hield, Bogdan and Rozier could all be available for a Portis-based package at least in theory.

Alternatively sending Holiday out in that kind of deal could net us a ton of other assets in addition. Whether we could get a significantly better creator like a Dejounte Murray (or if IQ just isn’t available for less than Jrue) then becomes the question.

Agree with this its not always the homerun trade that propels a team to the chip but its the little things like a bew voice a new system and a somewhat medium move that brings in 1 of the players mentioned above.Keeping jrue at the 1 n bringing in heidl or bogdon or rozier can have just of a impavt i think as bringing in beal minus holiday or midds.Same scenerio is jrue is moved to 2 for a pg

[Matches Malone]

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[drew881]

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Perfect if we can find a taker.

[Milbucks96]

That sounds more like cost saving instead of trying to make the team better.

[Daver]

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Perfect if we can find a taker.

Would rather use grayson with portis if possible to get like a combo of heidl mcConnell and a late 1st would this board be up with that

[barbados73]

That sounds more like cost saving instead of trying to make the team better.

It likely is a cost saving tactic because they are going to have to account for the raises to Lopez and Middleton. Certainly hope I am wrong but staying status quo is the Bucks modus operandi.

[Finn]

Say what you will but durant booker and biel makes one hell of a big 3 expensive but good add ayton to that n wow

I'm not sure about her ability to hoop, but otherwise she's fine.

[JayMKE]

I presume moving up means a 1st rounder not just up from pick 60 but I'd do that, we need future assets and should be able to replace Grayson's production. It's good that the team is expecting Marjon to take on a bigger role, if he can be a contributor then he's exactly what we need.

A prospect would be nice to have something else to talk about other than crazy trades

[BucksFanSD]

MarJon vice Grayson in the starting lineup this year would improve the team this upcoming year in my opinion. Although a bigger splash would be even better if at all possible.

I don't think Grayson brings much back in trade in terms of a draft pick, maybe a very late 1st rounder at best.

[SirChurros]

MarJon vice Grayson in the starting lineup this year would improve the team this upcoming year in my opinion. Although a bigger splash would be even better if at all possible.

I don't think Grayson brings much back in trade in terms of a draft pick, maybe a very late 1st rounder at best.

I think you can get a first-rounder for him. Where? Not sure. But he's a great shooter and plenty of teams would be willing to overlook whatever defense flaws he has for that reason. I also think he was relatively misused here.

[JayMKE]

I like Grayson but with Middleton out last year he had a oversized role and couldn't scale up his production, he's on a fair contract but is expiring after this season so if you can nab a 1st you do it.

Probably asking too much but would be nice to hit on undrafted guy like the Heat do with AJ Green, he's got a quicker trigger than Grayson and is a better athlete than I expected so he could a replacement too.

[MissKhriddleton]

Gonna bang this drum all off-season - Marjon turning into a quality starter, top 125 player or so in the league is the key to the future. It will allow us so much more flexibility in dumping salary, trading Khris/Jrue, etc.

[lightningrodman]

Charlotte has 3 2nd rounders, no idea if they are interested in Allen but I doubt they want to add 5 rookies to that roster. If the Bucks could turn him into Andre Jackson or Marcus Sasser, I’d consider that a win in the long-term.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

if marjon replaces grayson we'll be right back at square one and everybody will be trying to trade marjon. the likelihood that marjon becomes a bigger impact guy than grayson is well less than 50%

if were hellbent on a shakeup trade then best bet is to package them both with portis/patc for a real upgrade if that exists

personally i say just run it back. maybe the guys are actually hungry this year and play like they give a ****

[MickeyDavis]

If they are going to depend on MarJon being a solid rotation player they better be right. I'm certainly fine moving Grayson but if MarJon + late first is ends up a downgrade then I'm not happy about it. And yes I'm aware of the need to be careful with $$$. As said above I'd rather add Grayson to Bobby or in some other deal than just get a late first.

[paulpressey25]

If they are going to depend on MarJon being a solid rotation player they better be right. I'm certainly fine moving Grayson but if MarJon + late first is ends up a downgrade then I'm not happy about it. And yes I'm aware of the need to be careful with $$$. As said above I'd rather add Grayson to Bobby or in some other deal than just get a late first.

Can’t see who gives up a late first for Grayson. He’s a two seconds guy from a team that needs to meet minimum salary.

[Daver]

if marjon replaces grayson we'll be right back at square one and everybody will be trying to trade marjon. the likelihood that marjon becomes a bigger impact guy than grayson is well less than 50%

if were hellbent on a shakeup trade then best bet is to package them both with portis/patc for a real upgrade if that exists

personally i say just run it back. maybe the guys are actually hungry this year and play like they give a ****

This perfectly said marjon IMO is a ways away from replacing anyone in that starting lineup including allen.Good grief he may never be more than a 7th or 8th guy in a lineup.You use allen n portis together and obtain a upgrade at the 2 plus maybe get either a low 1st round pick or another player like a pg

[MickeyDavis]

If they are going to depend on MarJon being a solid rotation player they better be right. I'm certainly fine moving Grayson but if MarJon + late first is ends up a downgrade then I'm not happy about it. And yes I'm aware of the need to be careful with $$$. As said above I'd rather add Grayson to Bobby or in some other deal than just get a late first.

Can’t see who gives up a late first for Grayson. He’s a two seconds guy from a team that needs to meet minimum salary.

Agreed. That's what we paid for him and he certainly hasn't improved in the 2 years he's been here. He was a salary dump for Memphis and he'd be a salary dump for us. I'm just dubious that MarJon can be a solid rotation player on a contender. And as much doom and gloom as there is here we are most definitely still a contender.