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Post#41 » by StickeeFingaz » Sat Oct 7, 2023 4:03 pm

I’m always surprised by how well Brook moves his feet when he finds himself guarding out on the perimeter.
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Post#42 » by Matches Malone » Sat Oct 7, 2023 4:09 pm

Milbucks96 wrote:Can’t read the article but any defense that has Brook away from the rim is destined to fail.


From some of the pressers I've watched, it sounds more like something that they will employ on a game-to-game basis and not something that will be cemented from day 1. Griffin sounds like he wants the ability to run a few different defenses on the fly. If Brook does end up in some lineups where they want to run that, it wouldn't hurt to get him some reps in training camp to see what he can do.
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Post#43 » by Shaffty » Sat Oct 7, 2023 4:16 pm

Misquote extraordinaire eric nehm back at it again. Anything to stir the pot!
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Post#44 » by Daver » Sat Oct 7, 2023 4:22 pm

Milbucks96 wrote:The jrue stuff was obvious by the time the nets series was over. He couldn’t get to the rim, and when he did, he couldn’t get any layups to fall. And his shooting has always been up and down so it lead to just more of the same stuff we were dealing with from Bledsoe. It got really get bad when teams started playing off him like Bledsoe, or like what Boston was doing and just letting their bigs switch onto him.

I think he’s going to be really good for Boston because he can shoot 7 times a game for them and they should be ok looking at their offense on paper. The way the bucks are set up, he was always going to be depended on to score come playoff time and it’s just not the role for him.




He shot alot on NO and seemed to shoot very well.I think he will average 12-15 shots a night in boston much better thsn 19 a night here
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Post#45 » by rilamann » Sat Oct 7, 2023 4:31 pm

Garbs_7 wrote:Maybe i'm being naïve, but I can't help but think the Jae Crowder could be really important for us this season.


After the Dame trade, keeping Crowder around is the #2 reason why I am hyped and optimistic for this season.

Crowder will be a major contributor this season and will be an X-factor that no one is talking about (right now) against a team like Boston. Crowder didn't play most of the season last season, and then when the Bucks acquired him, Bud never acclimated him to the team.

Crowder can still play and will be a factor.
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Post#46 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Oct 7, 2023 4:38 pm

Good idea imo to throw some different defensive looks out there.

Here's some of it

Since taking the job in Milwaukee, Griffin has talked about how he wants the Bucks to be more aggressive defensively. He discussed some of the details of his vision following Thursday’s practice.

“Some of it is a little different, but at the end of the day, it’s what you’re willing to live with and what you don’t want to give up,” Griffin said. “So, we have our non-negotiables as far as the rim, layups, no dunks and with Brook and (Bobby Portis’) size, they’re gonna be great. Brook probably has more size than Bobby, but he can still protect the rim — verticals, verticalities at the rim — and then in pick-and-rolls, just a little different. They’ll probably be up a little higher.

“I think the biggest thing is just pressuring the ball. We want to pressure the ball, one through five, and that’s a little different for Brook, who has kind of been the quarterback in the paint, but that’s going to be situational where we’re going to ask him to pressure the ball, but there are times where he’s going to be back. He’s been extremely coachable, so it’s been fun.”


“It’s been great. The aggression has stepped up,” Lopez said. “With Bud, we were less about deflections, forcing turnovers and stuff like that. It’s definitely different in this regard with this group. I think it’s something that’s infectious. You see someone else do it, and then we’re all riding off it.”

The changes could help the Bucks turn up the pressure, but they are still changes. And it will take time for the Bucks to get used to them. For Lopez, in particular, those changes could end up being drastic.

“It’s definitely been great this week to feel that out,” Lopez said. “Because you see those Toronto teams, they’ve always been about pressure, picking up a little bit more, being in passing lanes, things like that. So, it’s been great to work on that this week. There’s been a lot of talking to coaches, give and take, feeling things out, but it’s been very positive.

“I have been up more in the pick-and-roll, applying a bit more ball pressure for the player that I am, doing things that I can to make his system work for our team to the best of our ability.”

“One of our core defensive pillars is ball pressure, so they’ve asked everyone — and by extension, me — to put more pressure on the ball,” Lopez said. “So it’s me stepping out of my comfort zone a little bit, getting up in the (offensive player). So, we might get beat occasionally. That might happen, we’re human, none of us are perfect. So, I think it’s going to be at times, as we feel this out and learn it out, sometimes I’m going to be reliant on the help behind me, which is obviously an inverted situation.”


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Post#47 » by rilamann » Sat Oct 7, 2023 4:47 pm

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Milbucks96 wrote:Can’t read the article but any defense that has Brook away from the rim is destined to fail.


From some of the pressers I've watched, it sounds more like something that they will employ on a game-to-game basis and not something that will be cemented from day 1. Griffin sounds like he wants the ability to run a few different defenses on the fly. If Brook does end up in some lineups where they want to run that, it wouldn't hurt to get him some reps in training camp to see what he can do.



Sounds like AG is the type of coach who can change up his game plan from game to game and attack mismatches and exploit the opponent's weak spots ect.

Unlike the previous guy who seemed to go into every game with the same game plan and seemed incapable of making any adjustments, and was oblivious to the concept of Attacking a mismatch.

The fact we now have a coach who at least sounds like he isn't going to go into a game against Boston with the exact same game plan he had against Detroit (or every team) is a breath of fresh air.
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Post#48 » by Prez » Sat Oct 7, 2023 4:56 pm

Interesting read. I was very anti-terrorism when it came to the Raptors defense of the past few years but I may have to change my tune here.
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Post#49 » by Bucksmaniac » Sat Oct 7, 2023 4:59 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
Milbucks96 wrote:Can’t read the article but any defense that has Brook away from the rim is destined to fail.


From some of the pressers I've watched, it sounds more like something that they will employ on a game-to-game basis and not something that will be cemented from day 1. Griffin sounds like he wants the ability to run a few different defenses on the fly. If Brook does end up in some lineups where they want to run that, it wouldn't hurt to get him some reps in training camp to see what he can do.


When I think of Brook and pressure defense I go back to game 5 against the Hawks in 2021. There is one play where Brook tries to pressure and create a turnover multiple times and succeeds after a Capela offensive rebound. Kind of an anomaly game for a Bud coached team with the amount of pressure employed, helped by the fact that Atlanta was without Trae Young.
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Post#50 » by CharityStripe34 » Sat Oct 7, 2023 5:03 pm

Or even Game 2 against the Hawks where Brook simply hedged a bit on the screen to not give up the wide-open shot. I don't think Griffin's going to have Brook blitz the PG after he crossed half-court lol.
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Post#51 » by Dick Tate » Sat Oct 7, 2023 5:04 pm

For those who feel the need to continue to crap on Jrue, at what point do you think you’ll be able to let it go?
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Post#52 » by Prez » Sat Oct 7, 2023 5:10 pm

Dick Tate wrote:For those who feel the need to continue to crap on Jrue, at what point do you think you’ll be able to let it go?

Depends on how broadly you define “crapping on Jrue”. If by that you just mean critiquing his game and playoff performance with the Bucks, I would say maybe when the national media stops treating the move as though Boston just got (and Milwaukee just lost) peak Gary Payton.

Now if you’re only referring to the vocal minority of Bucks fans who are way over the top aggressive in hating Jrue, definitely, agreed that’s gotta stop.
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Post#53 » by H2tObes » Sat Oct 7, 2023 5:13 pm

Dick Tate wrote:For those who feel the need to continue to crap on Jrue, at what point do you think you’ll be able to let it go?

Ill always give my honest opinion on players. Sorry if that upsets you
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Post#54 » by Shaffty » Sat Oct 7, 2023 5:18 pm

Dick Tate wrote:For those who feel the need to continue to crap on Jrue, at what point do you think you’ll be able to let it go?


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Post#55 » by Daver » Sat Oct 7, 2023 5:19 pm

rilamann wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
Milbucks96 wrote:Can’t read the article but any defense that has Brook away from the rim is destined to fail.


From some of the pressers I've watched, it sounds more like something that they will employ on a game-to-game basis and not something that will be cemented from day 1. Griffin sounds like he wants the ability to run a few different defenses on the fly. If Brook does end up in some lineups where they want to run that, it wouldn't hurt to get him some reps in training camp to see what he can do.



Sounds like AG is the type of coach who can change up his game plan from game to game and attack mismatches and exploit the opponent's weak spots ect.

Unlike the previous guy who seemed to go into every game with the same game plan and seemed incapable of making any adjustments, and was oblivious to the concept of Attacking a mismatch.

The fact we now have a coach who at least sounds like he isn't going to go into a game against Boston with the exact same game plan he had against Detroit (or every team) is a breath of fresh air.



He attacked a mismatch one fu.. time gane 2 vs heat with lopez ass kicking bam all night worked great but alas typical but never went back to it again
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Post#56 » by Daver » Sat Oct 7, 2023 5:24 pm

ESPN has us at 48 wins omfg number 3 behind boston 56 n cleveland 49.wtf we won 58 last year with no midds n giannis missing 20 games we have a healthy giannis what appears to be a healthy midds we added dame no way we only win 48 games.Im sorry but if healthy mid 60s
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Post#57 » by JayMKE » Sat Oct 7, 2023 5:27 pm

48 wins lol, they must have wrote their predictions over summer break and are too lazy to update them now. "Analysts" are the worst.
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Post#58 » by Dick Tate » Sat Oct 7, 2023 5:32 pm

H2tObes wrote:
Dick Tate wrote:For those who feel the need to continue to crap on Jrue, at what point do you think you’ll be able to let it go?

Ill always give my honest opinion on players. Sorry if that upsets you

Doesn’t upset me. Just curious how often you’ll feel the need to reiterate your honest opinion?
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Post#59 » by H2tObes » Sat Oct 7, 2023 5:34 pm

Dick Tate wrote:
H2tObes wrote:
Dick Tate wrote:For those who feel the need to continue to crap on Jrue, at what point do you think you’ll be able to let it go?

Ill always give my honest opinion on players. Sorry if that upsets you

Doesn’t upset me. Just curious how often you’ll feel the need to reiterate your honest opinion?

Buckle up buckaroo because he got traded to our biggest rival, lots of Jrue talk ahead
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Post#60 » by buckboy » Sat Oct 7, 2023 5:41 pm

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